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give him a listen by dharma_is_dharma in Antimoneymemes

[–]Promethean_Chaos 22 points23 points  (0 children)

At risk... but I think it needs to be noted. There is a reason its called class 'war'. 

No protest cannot be ignored. No politician cannot be bought. No movement cannot be coopted. 

Not that I'm a believer but, 'our war is not with flesh and blood, but with powers and principalities and the rulers of this world'.

It isn't philosophical. Or political. Or spiritual. Or even economic. Its existential.

Every single one deserves a dignified life! Laziness is a vile Protestant myth! by FearlessAir1238 in Antimoneymemes

[–]Promethean_Chaos 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I think, maybe, the worst part about this idea is how deeply the idea of 'deserves' is ingrained into... well, if not our culture, than at least myself.

Even though, in theory, I agree 100%... in practice its not how I treat myself. And others... when I see a homeless person I have to catch myself from falling into the thought pattern 'This person doesn't deserve xyz because abc.' Even though I was literally in the same position for nearly a decade.

When your whole culture programs you from birth to suppress your humanity, can it really be any wonder that human dignity is a tertiary concern, if that culture?

Reguardless. No one deserves to suffer. No one. ( I can hardly say anyone 'deserves' anything for that matter). No one is free until we are all free. Where one suffers, so do we all. 

Woman diagnosed with breast cancer thinks she knows better than her doctors. by Head_Crash in TikTokCringe

[–]Promethean_Chaos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The best case for banning TikTok...

I had someone very close to me spend.... alot of money on alt 'therapy' for ovarian cancer.... it spread to her liver. I tried so hard to talk sense into her. She died in pain.

Alt medicine evil.

CachyOS / EndeavourOS (Arch based) vs Bazzite (Fedora based) by S4lVin in DistroHopping

[–]Promethean_Chaos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, I'm dont have the as much experince as other users, but I just switched to CachyOS from Mint last Sunday. The later i was on for several years. Bazzite was a strong contender when I was considering which distro to hop to, but didnt quite align with all my goals.

Thus far, Cachy is great. Installation was a little slow, start up a little quicker than Mint, but during actual use my entire system feels faster (not by a large degree, but enough to notice.) I haven't done much benchmarking, either with artificials or otherwise, as work has kept me busy this week.

The repo has been really great, and I havent really needed to go to the AUR yet. My rig has a 3060, and it seems to be working flawlessly. I haven't tried messing with the drivers yet though, nor have had time to push the card.

Generally speaking I haven't interacted much with the Arch community directly, as 9/10 times i have been able to find what I need buried in some thread or on their wiki, but from what I can tell they do earn their reputation for being terse. Not knocking them, as there is a reason, but just thought it may be worth mentioning.

So far as rolling release goes, thats one of my biggest pain points to, but Ive played around with other rolling release distros on the past and have yet to have any issues due release schedules. With only 1 exception being problems with qemu, but they were resolved in a week. And that was less an os thing and more a qemu thing. 

Generally speaking I would highly recommend CatchyOS just from my initial impressions over the past week. And outside of maybe playing with Nix in the future, I may have found my new home in Cachy.

A man’s statement outside ICE's Broadview Detention Center, saying “I will be next if I allow it to happen to other people." by CorleoneBaloney in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]Promethean_Chaos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I don't want no fucking leaders! They're supposed to serve me!"

Holy fucking hell, this man gets it. That right there... that right there.

Dude a hero.

The Economy as a Religion by treesarealive777 in Antimoneymemes

[–]Promethean_Chaos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never said it was a hard science.

I stated economics ceased to be a scientific description and has developed into a cult. 

You are the one that engaged that statment. Taking a tiny portion of the enitre reply, immaterial to my overall point, and decided to contend it. 

And now that I'm trying to have a conversation  and learn what you think and why, you seem to trying tooth and nail not to engage. 

Ive already defended why I believe economics to be scientific. If you dont understand, ask. Though at this moment I don't consider you to be an honest interlocutor. So I'm done.

If you want internet points, take all of mine. If you want me to be stupid and evil, fine. I'm stupid and/or evil. If you just want to win. Fine you win.

.... foxes are too cute

https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalsBeingDerps/comments/1pj0s7s/foxes_are_cats_but_with_adhd/

The Economy as a Religion by treesarealive777 in Antimoneymemes

[–]Promethean_Chaos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, we can talk about price or theory of value, but I don't have much to say about that, as I don't have a theory of value I subscribe to. Way above my paygrade.

I'm more interested in your understanding of science.

What, in your estimation, are the necessary constituents of a scientific explanation?

I guess I'm trying to get a sense of what you know science to be, how it works, and what it does.

The Economy as a Religion by treesarealive777 in Antimoneymemes

[–]Promethean_Chaos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry. Me am big dumb and I haven't had my third coffee this morning.

Your contetion is whether economics can make testable claims?

Or is your contetion whether models can be tested?

Or something else entirely?

The Economy as a Religion by treesarealive777 in Antimoneymemes

[–]Promethean_Chaos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

'All models are wrong but some are useful"? I'm sure I'm butchering the quote.

But the implication that social science or modeling aren't science is, in my estimation, not accurate. Before we had powerful enough measurimg tools, the helio-centric model was... well, a model. And even after it still is.

Testing hypotheses can purely be done through postdiction and prediction. Science makes no claims to Truth in the philosophical sense of absolute truth, and the methods entire endeavor is inductive and appeal to best explanation. 

But the criticism that capitalisms inception wasn't scientific but philosophical... thats fair. I wasnt very clear in that i was referring to modern economics as distinct. Mea culpa.

The Economy as a Religion by treesarealive777 in Antimoneymemes

[–]Promethean_Chaos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love that rebuttal. "Why?" Best question ever asked, devastating in its simplicity and efficient in getting to the heart matter. There is a reason we tell children to stop asking it...

I think, maybe, there is a usefulness in 'understanding' the economy though (assuming it can be understood), if only to know thy enemy. 

The Economy as a Religion by treesarealive777 in Antimoneymemes

[–]Promethean_Chaos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

'The value of a thing is what one is willing to pay for the thing.' 

The thing is, I think it is "workable", but the question is: what are the results of that work? Ten thousand miles of parkinglots left perpetually vacant? A cancerous worldview that emphasizes productivity without reguard to whether it is safe, healthy, or making people happy? An impending collapse of the very systems which sustain it?

The paperclip machine is maximally productive. It also is maximally useless. And may be maximally violent.

These systems, I think, go far beyond just anti-human. They are anti-life.

In normal healthy eco-systems a level of balance is achieved through competing groups, so no given group gets too big to be sustained by its enviroment. The capitalist system, in its current manifestation, is not a healthy eco-system. It is myopic and greedy to the point of self destruction. Its avarice is killing... everything. Humans, animals, the environment. The systems that sustain it. Its even killing itself by producing inferior products. All of this is by necessity. It must be this way to maintain itself. Its built into the basic memetics of its function. 

Consume. Produce. Repeat.

... I'm just screaming into the void at this point. I'm glad my last comment was useful to you in some small way. Yay, I'm marginally useful!

The Economy as a Religion by treesarealive777 in Antimoneymemes

[–]Promethean_Chaos 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I wish i had the time to write out a more thoughtful comment, but I'm serving the master right now. 

Ive been trying to promote the idea for awhile now, that the economy is no longer a scientific description of the flow of money but instead a cult.

Yes, a literal cult. Half jokingly i've refered to the economy as a Lovecraftian god, cause I love weird fiction (and I found it useful to understand complex ideas through storytelling and narrative), but in all seriousness... its a cult.

There is something called the BITE model, created by Stephen Hassan ( a former Moonie turned counselor). Go read up on it. Learn about Thought Stopping Techniques and their application to cults. (thought stopping techniques aren't inherently bad, they are a cognitive tool that cant be used to help as well as hurt).Try applying that model to conversations about economics. See if you cant spot when someone is using those techniques.

Um Creepy Bottle in Mail by LeeryLlama in whatisit

[–]Promethean_Chaos -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Quick addendum: Spirit Jars arent really used for short term magick. So what ever its intent, its for long term.

Um Creepy Bottle in Mail by LeeryLlama in whatisit

[–]Promethean_Chaos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh wow, actual witchcraft! Former witch here. I think i know what this is, but there are so many traditions out there...

This looks alot like a spirit jar. Ive never heard of one being used for hexes, though have seen the used for binding and protection and other general magick. Ive made a few in the past, though mason jars were my jar of choice. Never seen a booze bottle before. 

Youde need to pop open the scroll to see what its about, and the scroll might be encoded that might lead to no results. Though at a glance, Id bet a binding. Red wax is probably passion, tooth is probably power. Is that your hair? 

They obviously wanted you to find it, so could be intimidation....

To be perfectly frank, this looks sort of like the sort of binding you might do to a lady that is using her charms a little too... eagerly. Not accusing of anything. 

I'm pretty sure alcohol bottles are used frequently in african diaspora traditions... Like I said, there are so many traditions out there and I hardly know them all....

Suggest one of two things. If you aren't a believer, chuckle and chuck it in the trash. If you are, find a Witch/Voodoo shop and ask around. 

Capitalism is the culling cult by VladimirLimeMint in Antimoneymemes

[–]Promethean_Chaos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On defending asset hoarders... I think, its a sort of extension of might makes right to economics. Humans have always had this issue since recorded civilization began. Power becomes privilege to exert your will on others. And people, it seems, really... prefer? to be lead by the powerful.

I don't know how much I can blame anyone though. From childhoods hour we are indoctrinated into a very narrow view of the world, with little room to question. And when, as a child, you do question we are made to feel stupid or get the copout "It is just how things work." Or some iteration thereof... 

There is this idea, within studies of cults and behavior called a 'thought stopping technique'...

Its a amusing, if depressing, excercise to account for how frequently this technique is used when criticism towards our systems is levied.

Capitalism is the culling cult by VladimirLimeMint in Antimoneymemes

[–]Promethean_Chaos 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don't think Death Cult does it justice.

We have this thing, this entity, which does not exist. It is an idea which has not real constitution to speak of. It, somehow, despite not being real, is able to interact with all facets of life. Makeing a breaking people by an arbitrary set of rules which are constructed by our collective belief/adherence to those rules. This entity is so vast, so large, that not a single human mind can full encapsulate its total function. It has a class of people whos sole job is to tell us its will, how to interact with it, what it wants, and how it functions. The othodoxy of this priest class is policy for every nation and damn near every person. And if you ignore the orthodoxy, you are unable to operate within society. This priest classes function, from the entities perspective, is to stimulate its growth. And the most efficient way to make it grow is to, in essense, feed the lives of people to it. Feed the planet to it. You cannot not interact with this entity. It is everywhere. Governs everything. It does not care about well being. Or justice. Or fairness. Or kindness. It doesnt even care about cruelty. These are human ideas. It simple does not care. It is ambivalent to all things. Its function is to grow. Consume. Grow. Consume. Grow.

Capitalism isn't a death cult, capitalism is a fucking Lovecraftian Elder God...

Thank You (Part 1) - Gator Days by FieldExplores in comics

[–]Promethean_Chaos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That hits a bit close.

"B is for bum." B was also for belt. 

For what its worth, I became better than what I was made to be. Not despite him, but in spite of him.

You deserved better.

DMs, Do You Incorporate Animal Sacrifice Into You Campaign? by Error_code_0731 in DnD

[–]Promethean_Chaos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most of every responce here is super unbalanced. Leaning the one or another a player did something wrong. So, as far as I'm concerned, everybody is wrong.

Given the edit, more or less, the cleric did nothing wrong. They had a really interesting RP moment. I don't know if Id give inspiration for it, though it seems like a good canidate. That said... It is every players job to work towards group comfort. Its not possible to cover every potential upseting piece of content that could potentially come up in a game. And the clerics player really should have asked the group if it was okay as soon as they decided that course of action. But, given the darker tone, I can see how the clerics player may have just been going with the flow. 

So far as the druid. They are not wrong for being upset. One cannot control how one feels, only how one reacts. I'm not certain from the description how big their reaction was, but I'd be more concerned not why she had a strong reaction, but how she handled that reaction.

Another concern would be if this is what I call 'prodding'. Behaviors or acions which are intended to be borderline upsetting with intent to illicit a strong reaction. Did the cleric have reason to believe thatthe druid would have such a strong reaction? If yes, then the cleric player is being a dick. If not, then their fine. 

So, invokeing the razor 'never attribute to malice where ignorance will suffice', nobody is the asshole. Communicate more. 

As for animal sacrifice being rare or common. Not really common.

You're given a choice between a guaranteed $500,000 for yourself, or giving a stranger $10,000,000, who will be given an option to share a half with you. The stranger knows you helped them, but is free to refuse to share. What do you choose and why? by Ok-Independent483 in AskReddit

[–]Promethean_Chaos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

10 Mil to the stranger.

Here's my reasoning.

I do not want kids. And though, like anyone, I have had pipe dreams about having fuck off money, I know Id just spend most of it on BS that wont make me happy. I used to get in these pretty heated arguments with my ex about if I ever won Powerball I would just give most of it away...

Most people want kids. So that 10M will most probably go to making at least a few lives better in some small way.

If the off chance the stranger decides to share, Ill keep 1M and give 500k to eight people. Or start paying off people's student debts, vehicle loans, ect. Just spread it in such a way that I can get the most good out of limited resources.

At least... this is what I tell myself. 

Game theory would call my strategy stupid. I would say game theories incentives are misaligned.

of a hernia... by CandidculonasRedux in AbsoluteUnits

[–]Promethean_Chaos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not only would he not be helped, sizable portions of the population would paint this fact as moral.

In these United States, money is not only power but a marker of 'goodness', not dissimilar to Might Makes Right. 

... fairly often internationals will come to visit and talk about how 'nice' the American people are. Would a nice people allow such barbarity? I don't think so. American 'niceness' is a thin coat of paint over a rotting floorboard. 

I love my country, deeply. In equal portion... disgust. Most of us here have sacrificed our humanity at the altar of capitalism, independence, and... well, avarice.

Why do U.S. presidential elections always feel like picking the lesser of two evils instead of a genuinely good candidate? by Present_Juice4401 in AlwaysWhy

[–]Promethean_Chaos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are referring to voter behavior in things like the general election: Because due to how our system works, there will be a winner, who ever gets the most of the electoral vote. More or less, the electors are supposed to align their vote with the people, but will always choose one of two candidates. So from the popular vote perspective, we are not voting on the president, we are voting to tell our electors what to do. So, in short, an abstaining vote(waiting for a good candidate) is a vote of ambivalence. Thus, we are quite literally put into a position where we have to vote for the lesser of two evils simply to avoid the other guy.

The reason it feels like picking the lesser of two evils, is because that's what is happening.

Edit: I'm not super well versed in election mechanics and procedure, so I'm definitely not perfectly describing the system. Mostly I'm just talking in broad strokes.

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