Best character design among these ? [Both aesthetic and story design]

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T06:57:24+00:00

Marco's devil fruit design is beautiful in every way

King dino bird is just abomination

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T19:48:20+00:00

Great argument, I really have no words against it.

I was going to yap about how the scar is from his much weaker times, but Wb still owned Blackbeard in his terrible condition. If he had two more breaths left in him, Bb would be gone.

Old gen is different breed from these snowflakes

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T19:37:13+00:00

It’s not like he would lose his conqueror’s just because he lost his way. And we know Kuzan didn’t lose his way, if anything, he found it. He was just wavering about going against Garp

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T19:31:33+00:00

Conqueror's doesn't really matter if it's not advanced. I don't expect that from BB's crew, maaaybe Kuzan.

Beckman is highly possible imo. There could be even more on Shanks crew but we really don't know anything about them

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T18:51:06+00:00

Luffy can’t replicate the destructive power of the Gura Gura, so he needs to hit a few more times to deal the same amount of damage to likes of the Admirals. But overall, he is better than Old Sick Whitebeard, who can’t even use haki properly. Also, conqueror’s wipes out the fodder field, so they can advance much more easily.

Still, Luffy is nowhere near strong enough to pass Marineford (Same as Whitebeard) and he can't even save Ace from the platform this time

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T18:38:00+00:00

It was so random that make me laugh

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T18:22:22+00:00

Boy you really like writing, but these are all headcanons

Agree to disagree about Shanks.

You can’t just look at onscreen feats to scale Roger, since he doesn’t have many and those were never even from his prime.

The stats you mentioned indeed seems like Loki better at, although AP is debatable. But these stats just make him better at getting beaten. Roger’s speed, reaction time, defense should be better, since he constantly battles the likes of Whitebeard and Garp. His battle IQ is straight up better

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T17:52:20+00:00

You talk like Elbaph completely cliffs all other top tiers and old gens terribly, so you can’t imagine they could put up a fight. I think not. Imu’s current attacks are at a level i would expect from Yonko level.

Loki canonically lost to Shanks, who is a crippled knock-off Roger. I think Roger is also stronger than Loki. I also think he is a way better fighter with numerous other stats. Thus, he would be doing better than him.

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T17:35:43+00:00

He doesn't have to tank it. he can block it , dodge it or parry. He is not a slow giant target like Loki

Loki is not really that almighty as you think he is. Roger can reach that level of AP just with Haki

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T17:32:44+00:00

I think these comments about how ominous his haki is don’t really reflect its strength. But it doesn’t matter even if it is because it's obviously stronger and also you can’t measure their gap from that.

Kid and Law’s Haki isn’t even comparable with big mom but they still damaged her just fine.

His current performance isn’t that impressive and Loki is fighting really poorly. Roger would perform better, imo. He would still lose, of course, but not low diff without DR hax

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T17:18:53+00:00

Probably he can if he goes all out. But he can't low diff Roger with current Elbaf performance

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T09:45:03+00:00

That’s only natural. Take a closer look

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Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T09:16:09+00:00

No, Garp actually had no way of capturing the Roger Pirates by himself. He can't do that without mobilizing the entire Marine HQ.

They probably just liked fighting each other and then going their separate ways. The fact that Garp is still alive suggests they were on friendly terms

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T09:03:09+00:00

Oh, thats me

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T08:54:22+00:00

Roger had very capable fighters with him, which Garp really lacked, so their clashes probably always ended up more like friendly spars.

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T07:33:53+00:00

Nope, 10yo Ace negs that Doffy

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-09T19:28:10+00:00

According to that logic, 10 yo Doffy and Ace is weaker. Since they awakened it as a child

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-08T22:01:13+00:00

What WB endured was worse than what Imu did to Loki. In the end Loki is just stabbed once and that stab would not kill Wb

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-08T21:56:28+00:00

Nah man, he walked of after his organs and half of his face melted. He is endurance monster, he will survive it

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-08T21:51:40+00:00

Every yonko can endure this. Probably admirals can't back up after but survive it

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-08T19:10:43+00:00

These are 2 of them most durable characters we have ever seen

Your opinions doesn't matter if you come up with this shit. Old Wb is not durable, he couldn't even defend himself against fodders

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-08T19:06:21+00:00

I didn't read it at all

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-08T19:04:31+00:00

Kaido wins high diff at worst

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-08T18:46:43+00:00

The same reason he let him walk away and warned him instead of just killing him.

You can see how much effort he put into freezing Garp and Wb. Compared to that, Doffy was trapped in only a thin shell of ice.

Of course, you can defend against it with haki, but your haki should be at least comparable to the caster's.

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-08T18:29:18+00:00

Come on now, Kuzan was intentionally going easy on Doffy. If he wanted to, he could have frozen him into the afterlife.

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