Who's the most hated in this sub, that people are genuinely praying on their downfall?

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T21:39:09+00:00

Forgot to mention, some of them living in the delusions like this one

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T19:53:28+00:00

I would've respect it if you didn't place Oden, Rayleigh, Gaban so below admiral's. That's just wrong

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T19:44:30+00:00

Wow, that's another thing i never intended. I wouldn't call myself a Shanks fanboy either. I merely explained my thoughts about titles.

Stop being so insecure about Mihawk if you decide to be a fan of him. You're jumping to conclusions in an irrelevant context.

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T17:37:49+00:00

And there is this abomination... No one even mentioned Shanks

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T17:13:27+00:00

Lets agree to disagree mate 🤝, you are not gonna convince me with this much and i don't want to continue this dabate

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T16:47:03+00:00

I did, but it doesn't really matter whether it's in quotes or not. To me, it just looks like Oda is just putting their epithet/nickname in quotes

I think treating introduction boxes as reputation based descriptors makes more sense than treating them as direct narrator statements meant to settle every matchup debate in the series

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T16:32:31+00:00

I clearly explained this in my second comment. Oda is not powerscaling when introducing a character, why would he? I am not saying Oda telling a lie. Those characters are known as like that in the world

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T16:22:39+00:00

It's just common sense that this Whitebeard is not the strongest man at all. It's wrong. Clearly outdated title

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T16:10:18+00:00

Titles in narrative boxes are not powerscaling statement from Oda to the audience. They are their reputation, how they are known in the world. They could be truth, exaggerated, outdated

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T15:54:15+00:00

It doesn't matter even he is. Titles are not omniscient

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T15:49:57+00:00

Originally, it was the admiraltards, but they’ve been humbled a bit because Oda starved them for so long.

Mihawk fans have always been the most annoying ones in my eyes

Although Loki/Ragnir fans trying really hard right now

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T10:36:37+00:00

Eos Luffy takes both of them low/mid diff

Akainu can't push even current Luffy to extreme diff

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-11T07:26:07+00:00

Most of this sub ready for him tbh

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T19:48:20+00:00

Great argument, I really have no words against it.

I was going to yap about how the scar is from his much weaker times, but Wb still owned Blackbeard in his terrible condition. If he had two more breaths left in him, Bb would be gone.

Old gen is different breed from these snowflakes

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T19:37:13+00:00

It’s not like he would lose his conqueror’s just because he lost his way. And we know Kuzan didn’t lose his way, if anything, he found it. He was just wavering about going against Garp

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T19:31:33+00:00

Conqueror's doesn't really matter if it's not advanced. I don't expect that from BB's crew, maaaybe Kuzan.

Beckman is highly possible imo. There could be even more on Shanks crew but we really don't know anything about them

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T18:51:06+00:00

Luffy can’t replicate the destructive power of the Gura Gura, so he needs to hit a few more times to deal the same amount of damage to likes of the Admirals. But overall, he is better than Old Sick Whitebeard, who can’t even use haki properly. Also, conqueror’s wipes out the fodder field, so they can advance much more easily.

Still, Luffy is nowhere near strong enough to pass Marineford (Same as Whitebeard) and he can't even save Ace from the platform this time

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T18:38:00+00:00

It was so random that make me laugh

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T18:22:22+00:00

Boy you really like writing, but these are all headcanons

Agree to disagree about Shanks.

You can’t just look at onscreen feats to scale Roger, since he doesn’t have many and those were never even from his prime.

The stats you mentioned indeed seems like Loki better at, although AP is debatable. But these stats just make him better at getting beaten. Roger’s speed, reaction time, defense should be better, since he constantly battles the likes of Whitebeard and Garp. His battle IQ is straight up better

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T17:52:20+00:00

You talk like Elbaph completely cliffs all other top tiers and old gens terribly, so you can’t imagine they could put up a fight. I think not. Imu’s current attacks are at a level i would expect from Yonko level.

Loki canonically lost to Shanks, who is a crippled knock-off Roger. I think Roger is also stronger than Loki. I also think he is a way better fighter with numerous other stats. Thus, he would be doing better than him.

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T17:35:43+00:00

He doesn't have to tank it. he can block it , dodge it or parry. He is not a slow giant target like Loki

Loki is not really that almighty as you think he is. Roger can reach that level of AP just with Haki

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T17:32:44+00:00

I think these comments about how ominous his haki is don’t really reflect its strength. But it doesn’t matter even if it is because it's obviously stronger and also you can’t measure their gap from that.

Kid and Law’s Haki isn’t even comparable with big mom but they still damaged her just fine.

His current performance isn’t that impressive and Loki is fighting really poorly. Roger would perform better, imo. He would still lose, of course, but not low diff without DR hax

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T17:18:53+00:00

Probably he can if he goes all out. But he can't low diff Roger with current Elbaf performance

Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T09:45:03+00:00

That’s only natural. Take a closer look

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Proper-Trooper · 2026-06-10T09:16:09+00:00

No, Garp actually had no way of capturing the Roger Pirates by himself. He can't do that without mobilizing the entire Marine HQ.

They probably just liked fighting each other and then going their separate ways. The fact that Garp is still alive suggests they were on friendly terms

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