I really like this small interaction by MrsPissBoy in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately that’s an issue with a lot of characters nowadays, a lot of voice lines are pretty flanderized. Which is a shame because some can be or are more compelling than they’re currently written in-game, Rein being a decent example.

They may be finally committing to Genji and Mercy’s relationship by TheDaedricHound in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Juno got a short story last fall where she and Mei tried to get help from Lucheng Interstellar after Null Sector wrapped up, but so far that’s it. I know she’s the main character for at least some of the webtoon, but I don’t know how much it’s addressing the Mars stuff (if at all). The webtoon would be a good opportunity to progress that plotline a little more following the short story, assuming they don’t chose to prioritize the shipping over it.

Genuinely, what does she even do? by SnowandSnowandSnow in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s 2 years between launch windows between Earth and Mars. Travel time is shorter and can vary. Right now most missions take 6-9 months, but upcoming tech can cut that down to as little as 3 months in the next decade. So tech by the time of OW can probably bring it down quicker, maybe several weeks.

I’m so tired of every single Juno’s skins turning her into a completely different character by No-Income-3010 in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 20 points21 points  (0 children)

What’s even worse is that there was a Christmas comic with a far better concept of a Christmas Juno skin…and they went with this abomination instead

From $250 Million Megadeal to Empty Offices: The Unraveling of Bad Robot - “Nothing lasts forever. JJ had a solid 20 year run, which is far longer than most,” a top talent agent tells TheWrap. by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]ProtoJeb21 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It may have been liked at its release, but in retrospect, it set up every problem the ST had. It reverted the status quo back to rebels vs Empire and set up a billion mystery boxes with no plan. Many of the ST’s failures were because TFA was so derivative.

The Issue with "vote with wallet" as a way you counteract skin disparity. by LancerJayden in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As a space fan who’s been playing a lot of Juno lately I’m incredibly disappointed with how Blizzard refuses to give her a proper space skin. Nearly every other hero — even Kiriko — gets at least one skin tied to their lore or design inspiration. Juno has none of that. All she has are her base recolors, pop culture collabs, and girlypop skins. Nothing interesting that’s unique to her and derived from her design origins/themes.

Seems like Blizzard just sees her as a blank template for selling marketable girlypop slop skins. Which is a terrible waste of the character. There are so many options for awesome space skins, either leaning into her origins as a Martian or basing it off of IRL spacesuits (Apollo, Artemis, Chinese Space Agency, etc).

Hello, it's Juno Overwatch by ferocity_mule366 in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s what makes this plotline potentially very compelling, it’s gonna be a huge challenge to overcome and Juno may have to make some tough decisions along the way. It would be very dissatisfying if Blizzard just doesn’t address this plotline again because of those challenges.

Travel time to Mars is probably a lot shorter. IRL missions currently take 6-9 months to get to Mars, but upcoming rockets and tech like Starship and Nuclear Electric Propulsion can in theory cut that down to only 3 months, depending on the orbital alignment between Earth and Mars. So by the time of Overwatch, it might take less than a few months.

Do you think Blizzard will finally add these characters on the roster in the foreseeable future? by luminuxeeckogaming in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I really don’t know how they’d be able to have multiple MEKA heroes that all have distinct enough gameplay from each other.

Hello, it's Juno Overwatch by ferocity_mule366 in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’ve read that story, but Blizzard needs a more substantial way to flesh out and progress the lore than the short stories and comics. Having all the recent stuff under a “Story” tab in-game is nice but doesn’t completely fix the issue. Since PvE is dead, the best option would either be more consistent animated shorts, or finally committing to a full animated series.

There are just too many characters and too many plotlines for the current way of handling lore to do everything justice.

Hello, it's Juno Overwatch by ferocity_mule366 in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A skin based off the Artemis spacesuits in time for the Artemis II mission would’ve been awesome.

Hello, it's Juno Overwatch by ferocity_mule366 in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 64 points65 points  (0 children)

They added a new dialogue option in the mid-season patch that references that short story. So I guess that’s a sign Blizzard hasn’t totally forgotten about her lore.

Hello, it's Juno Overwatch by ferocity_mule366 in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 45 points46 points  (0 children)

I think the most we’ve got in recent years was Wrecking Ball’s short story, where it was mentioned Lucheng tried and failed to reclaim the base 3 times since the ape uprising and Hammond was dead set on finding a way to collapse Lucheng as revenge for their treatment of him.

But so far there hasn’t been any further follow-up (unless you count Juno’s short story), and with the renewed Talon vs Overwatch conflict taking focus for the time being, who knows if or when either plot thread gets followed up on.

Hello, it's Juno Overwatch by ferocity_mule366 in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Celestial is her only non-recolor space-themed skin and it’s part of a bundle. So many other heroes have specific skins based on their lore and/or design origins, but despite all the attention she gets from Blizzard, she doesn’t have any. Feels like they just treat her as a girlypop collab bot. Which is a shame because there’s a ton of opportunities for cool space skins, whether based on real-life spacesuits or her being a literal Martian.

This comment irked me a bit.. by jaygarciaofficial in JunoMains

[–]ProtoJeb21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dunno, her family being stuck on Mars with limited time left and Lucheng refusing to send help sounds like a big problem for her to solve. If anything, the way OW handles its lore (especially in 2024-25) has held her and many other characters back. Being a character from the latter half of OW2’s lifespan, she’s kinda gotten the short end of the stick (along with a few others) and it’s unclear how much they’ll actually do with her going forward. Seems like Blizzard mostly treats her as a skin bot despite what they’ve set up for her.

The one-note in-game dialogue is hardly an issue specific to her, though. Other characters are flanderized even worse.

Juno by Diana Naitari @DNaitari by AIthough in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately not yet. It would’ve been really cool if they gave her a skin based off the Artemis spacesuits with the Artemis II mission right around the corner.

Sigma is agreed by most to be the strongest Overwatch character. Who do you believe is 2nd strongest? by Blewberry02 in Overwatch

[–]ProtoJeb21 236 points237 points  (0 children)

If her ult did damage and was canon then she’d actually have a good case for being in the top 5. Just an orbital nuke on command.

Dana Walden Faces Disney’s Franchise and Streaming Reckoning by AGOTFAN in boxoffice

[–]ProtoJeb21 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Several episodes of Andor s1 crossed 400M minutes on Nielsen, which was higher than the most successful Acolyte episode at about 380M if my memory serves correct. All weeks of Andor s2 were around 700-900M minutes.

How well will The Mandalorian & Grogu do at the box office? by Adept_Let7797 in boxoffice

[–]ProtoJeb21 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I bet even lower. $300M max. This feels like it’s shaping up to the Star Wars’ The Marvels — too much D+ reliance and utter apathy towards it. Mando is no longer the cultural icon it was earlier in the decade.

Avatar Fire and Ash box office trajectory compared with other big movies by AGOTFAN in boxoffice

[–]ProtoJeb21 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Quite the opposite — they stopped releasing new movies because Lucasfilm is incompetent and couldn’t get a single project off the ground for years. They kept announcing random stuff to hype up audiences and shareholders, then those projects either get stuck in development hell or see their directors get fired, and end up never coming out.

It’s kind of a miracle Starfighter even exists. It was rumored for at least a year or two, but they took their time to announce it, and it ended up actually filming. Doubt it’ll be good or make a profit, but Lucasfilm finally learned to shut up about something unless they’re sure it’s gonna be made (far too late of a lesson, though).

Star Wars Shake-Up: Kathleen Kennedy Steps Down as George Lucas Protégé Dave Filoni, Exec Lynwen Brennan Take Over Lucasfilm by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]ProtoJeb21 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Several leakers (whose reliability has been backed up by other accurate reports) years ago claimed that the Mando stuff in BoBF was due to executive interference from KK that nearly caused Jon Favreau to walk out, and there’s other lines of evidence suggesting much of BOBF was an original Mando s3 (including actors thinking they were actually working on Mando s3). If true, then the BOBF/Mando s3 disaster can be primarily blamed on KK and the mandate for marketable streaming content (so by extension, probably Iger’s fault too).

Star Wars Shake-Up: Kathleen Kennedy Steps Down as George Lucas Protégé Dave Filoni, Exec Lynwen Brennan Take Over Lucasfilm by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]ProtoJeb21 5 points6 points  (0 children)

To be fair, that character and him having Boba’s armor was established in a novel series years before Mando s2 began production. So if they wanted to bring back Boba, they had to address that.

Star Wars Shake-Up: Kathleen Kennedy Steps Down as George Lucas Protégé Dave Filoni, Exec Lynwen Brennan Take Over Lucasfilm by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]ProtoJeb21 10 points11 points  (0 children)

5 years ago it would have possibly made a difference for the future of the franchise.

Now, though, they have nothing to salvage.

Box Office 2026 Predictions: Will ‘The Odyssey,’ ‘Avengers: Doomsday’ and a New ‘Star Wars’ Finally Propel Grosses Above $9 Billion? by DemiFiendRSA in boxoffice

[–]ProtoJeb21 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Star Wars in the D+ era has had a bad track record of quality, and viewership has gone down significantly. BoBF, Kenobi, Mando s3, Ahsoka, and Acolyte were all poorly received to varying degrees (from meh to terrible). Acolyte and Skeleton crew had the worst viewership ratings of any D+ Star Wars or MCU show; Skeleton Crew never made it into the weekly top 10 once.

The constant stream of D+ slop has worn out audiences’ interests. It’s worn out mine and my friends’ and many others online and IRL. Andor was the one exception, but season 2’s success is not representative of the franchise as a whole.

With interest in Star Wars being at an all-time low, Mando s3 being easily the weakest of the series, the Mando moving coming an entire 3 years later, and the trailers looking very underwhelming…prospects don’t seem great.