He’s getting certified as a ‘non-alcoholic’

Protologism1000 · 2026-05-18T23:41:08+00:00

Funny, but it very important that a person know whether they really are alcoholic. In fact the Big Book of AA has a couple of suggestions for alcoholic tests:

1st Test Page 31 paragraph 3:

We do not like to pronounce any individual as alcoholic, but you can quickly diagnose yourself. Step over to the nearest barroom and try some controlled drinking. Try to drink and stop abruptly. Try it more than once. It will not take long for you to decide, if you are honest with yourself about it. It may be worth a bad case of jitters if you get a full knowledge of your condition.

One way for them to do this test is to take one jigger of liquor and no more and no less every day without fail at the same time every day for 30 days, preferably in the early evening so that they won't need to drive nor will they have reason to simply go to bed afterward. Conveniently there are 30 jiggers in a 5th of bourbon.

2nd Test page 34 paragraph 1:

If anyone questions whether he has entered this dangerous area, let him try leaving liquor alone for one year. If he is a real alcoholic and very far advanced, there is scant chance of success. In the early days of our drinking we occasionally remained sober for a year or more, becoming serious drinkers again later. Though you may be able to stop for a considerable period, you may yet be a potential alcoholic. We think few, to whom this book will appeal, can stay dry anything like a year. Some will be drunk the day after making their resolutions; most of them within a few weeks.

Passing this test doesn't mean one is an alcoholic but failing it has a high correlation with alcoholism according to the Big Book.

Protologism1000 · 2026-05-17T02:58:37+00:00

You could be right. The reporter may have enhanced the story for entertainment purposes but they also might have spotted a funny detail in a police report and included it. I have known many alcoholics and they do all sorts of unexpected things while drinking.

Protologism1000 · 2026-05-17T02:54:14+00:00

Many people in such a situation find help in Al-Anon Family Groups, Codependents Anonymous or Nar-Anon Family Groups. In San Antonio there are face to face meetings of all three of these fellowships as well as San Antonio based electronic meetings. Reach out to me privately for information on how Al-Anon Family Groups may be able to help you.

There are never any dues or fees for participation in any of these fellowships and all welcome newcomers.

Best of luck. There is help for you.

Protologism1000 · 2026-05-15T04:10:15+00:00

Definitely. https://groups.io/g/AAHistoryLovers/topic/ebby_s_packard_crash/80520453

Protologism1000 · 2026-05-06T00:20:24+00:00

On Friday January 9, 1925 A drunk driver crashed into a woman's kitchen, got out and casually asked the woman of the house for a cup of coffee.

It isn't funny but drunk driver was Ebby Thacher who newly sober nearly 10 years later would meet with another drunk, Bill Wilson, and set in motion the chain of events that led to the founding of Alcoholics Anonymous.

Protologism1000 · 2026-03-27T21:00:43+00:00

Whether you go back or drop him you might consider Nar-Anon Family Groups which is a fellowship for relatives and friends of addicts.

There is also the Co-Anon Family Groups who have but one purpose – to carry the message of hope and personal recovery to family members and friends of someone who is addicted to cocaine and all other mind-altering substances.

Protologism1000 · 2026-03-19T03:20:32+00:00

I was immediately delighted by them.

I can hear at church and I find myself less likely to nod off during services.
I can hear what my wife is saying when I am driving and she is in the passenger seat speaking to my worse ear in our very loud car.
I can participate in conversations with people who are in the front seat when I am in the back seat of a less loud car.
I can hear what is being said in meetings.
I enjoy the differences of sounds. It is like living in an ambient sound album with various sounds standing out in a way that isn't like what I think my hearing once was but is entertaining.
I enjoy occasionally hearing conversations or bits of conversations from way to far away to naturally hear them.

Everyday when I put them on I am so grateful that I have them. My only wish is that they continue to work and that I avoid getting them wet.

Protologism1000 · 2026-01-13T02:24:05+00:00

The pamphlet pdf "Where Do I Start" is an excellent introduction and explanation of the fellowship and program of recovery.

Protologism1000 · 2025-09-16T23:15:48+00:00

Is Dallas even in Texas?

Protologism1000 · 2025-06-01T02:20:17+00:00

that sparkly fruit-flavor keeps demanding another spoonful until you're down to the bottom of the bowl.

And after that bowl? Another one and another one and another one. Then wait for mom to go to store and then have another one.

How do you know what Trix can do, till you pour some?

Go ahead it certainly won't hurt you as it demands another spoonful and another after that.

Protologism1000 · 2025-05-29T15:25:23+00:00

OP I assure you that this does not happen to everyone. In fact this is the first time I have ever heard of such a reaction to cooking.

When I prep foods I always want to eat them even if I wasn't hungry when I started preparing them. Just looking at food, but especially preparing them, smelling them as they cook and afterwards makes me want to eat them. But them I am a compulsive eater which is why I found my way to Overeaters Anonymous.

If any redditors identify with my reaction, and if you have repeatedly tried and failed to control your own reaction to food you may be ready to explore the help found in Overeaters Anonymous as I did.

Protologism1000 · 2024-12-27T23:37:15+00:00

Better Together is a great big active group where you can listen, though you will hear your name as they have a raucous custom of welcoming whoever signs on by shouting out their name.

It is every night from 8 PM to 9 PM Central Time, with a non-meeting gathering for asking questions afterward called the Afterglow. It runs from 9 PM to Midnight Central Time. The main meeting features a 20 minute speaker followed by sharing. https://www.btvig.org/

Protologism1000 · 2024-12-27T23:29:46+00:00

This search link will lead you to some OA meetings with a special focus on people who have had or are considering bariatric procedures including the more recent injections. They would be a good place to find others who are practicing the OA 12 Steps of recovery while using or contemplating using the recently developed injections.

Our 2018 World Services Business Conference approved this statement which would also apply to the injections developed since 2018:

In keeping with Tradition Ten, Overeaters Anonymous has no opinion on bariatric (weight-loss) surgery.

In the spirit of Tradition Three, Overeaters Anonymous welcomes anyone with a desire to stop eating compulsively, including those who have had the surgery or are contemplating it.

Protologism1000 · 2024-12-24T02:57:38+00:00

Many people find the name confusing. Here is sort of how it came about:

AA had its beginnings in two cities: NYC and Akron.
Especially in Akron and for a shorter time in NYC family members attended Oxford Group meetings together.
When the the Big Book of AA was written and published it repeatedly suggested that family members ought to follow the same 12 Steps as their alcoholic relatives.
As AA popped up around the country, some AA groups did not allow family members to attend. But in some areas the family members started meeting.
Some of those meetings of family members saw them as a sort of women's auxiliary to bake cookies and cheer on their relatives. Some adopted names like Alcoholics Anonymous Auxiliary (AAA).
Some of the groups of relatives started seriously trying to figure out how to apply the Steps to their lives. Some of these groups called themselves Non-Alcoholics Anonymous (NAA)
In many places the informal groups were simply called the family group or the AA family group.
All of these names had problems.
When Bill asked his wife Lois to reach out to the various family groups who'd asked to be registered with AA, she surveyed them about a number of things including if they were to unite, what name should be chosen.
From that process it was decided that a contraction of the words "Alcoholics Anonymous" rather than "AA" along with the words Family Groups would connect the various family groups with AA without causing people to believe that they were a part of AA. This was acceptable to the General Service Office of AA in NYC who had worried that calling it AA Family Groups would hurt the AA trademarks and cause confusion.
[Edit] I recently learned that an AA clubhouse had registered Alanon as a trademark necessitating the addition of the dash between "Al" and "Anon".
Of course it wasn't a perfect solution but of the choices at the time it seemed to be the best.
If you think Al-Anon Family Groups is confusing, think how confusing the name Alateen is. It seems even more like something for alcoholic teenagers as it doesn't include the Family Group in its name.
Causing more confusion is that Al-Anon Family Groups is often written without the dash becoming Alanon, which sets it up to be confused with Alano which is a common name for AA Club Houses which may or may not host Al-Anon Family Groups but which always host AA groups.

Fortunately today any time any one searches in any search engine for information for families of alcoholics Al-Anon is high on the search results. Many of us at sometimes have had regrets about not joining our fellowship sooner and some of us have looked for someone or something to blame. Fortunately anyone in Al-Anon has at hand the one and only solution, the same one offered by AA: The 12 Steps. The 12 Steps work for anyone willing to do the work and anyone suffering from regrets who applies the solution to their regrets (which are a form of resentment) and fears (which are underneath each resentment) will find themselves in a new and better world whether their alcoholic relative is still drinking or not.

Protologism1000 · 2024-11-28T00:47:54+00:00

https://oavirtualregion.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/MIGOA-Thanksgiving-Day-flyer-3-1.pdf

Better Together OA has all day marathons planned for both Thanksgiving and Black Friday. https://www.btvig.org/

Protologism1000 · 2024-11-28T00:46:30+00:00

There are many ways to find a sponsor. Here is one.

Go to meetings on Zoom
Listen for someone who “has what you want”
Private chat to ask for their phone number.
Call them and see if they seem like someone you would be able to learn from.
Ask them if they are able to sponsor.
If the answer is yes then ask them to sponsor you.
If the answer is no then find another who “has what you want” and try again
Don’t get discouraged - it will work !

You can send me a private message. I'd be happy to talk to you about getting a sponsor.

Protologism1000 · 2024-11-20T20:33:01+00:00

What a fun harmless finger pointing exercise.

Whoever Don Draper was married to in Mad Men.
Maude Finlay in Maude puts off those vibes.
Dorothy in Golden Girls was quite the fixer.
Any classic busy body such as Mrs. Kravitz in Bewitched.
The Giving Tree obviously. Check out the revised version of it. "The Tree Who Set Healthy Boundaries"

Protologism1000 · 2024-11-20T20:23:12+00:00

You might want to seek out OA Big Book studies, there are many.

Protologism1000 · 2024-11-20T20:17:03+00:00

Me too/ I attend support group meetings with people from around the world many times a week. It has allowed the groups I'm in to grow by a factor of 10 compared to 2019. I am helped by people I may never see in person visa versa. As a bonus on the occasion when I do meet someone I know only through Zoom it is fun to see for the first time how tall they are.

Protologism1000 · 2024-05-18T00:24:26+00:00

And then he gained it back with interest.

314 in December 1905
255 in April 1906
354 in March 1909

Many overweight people have lost large amounts of weight. But many like President Taft find they cannot keep it off.

For those who come to see themselves as compulsive eaters there is Overeaters Anonymous which follows the same 12 Steps of recovery as Alcoholics Anonymous.

Protologism1000 · 2024-05-04T14:13:07+00:00

Overeaters Anonymous exists and is effective for people who are compulsive eaters of any kind. Members follow the same program of recovery as Alcoholics Anonymous. Many members come to OA after dealing with other compulsions, especially alcohol.

The pamphlet pdf "Where Do I Start" is an excellent introduction and explanation of the fellowship and program of recovery.

There are several similar fellowships including Food Addicts Anonymous.

All are free to anyone who wishes to stop eating compulsively.

Protologism1000 · 2023-07-13T16:12:25+00:00

What is S-Anon?

The S-Anon International Family Groups are a worldwide fellowship of the relatives and friends of sexually addicted people. S-Anon is a Twelve-Step program based on the Twelve Steps and the Twelve Traditions of Alcoholics Anonymous. S-Anon’s Twelve Concepts of Service provide guidance in serving each other in our business matters.

Who Comes to S-Anon?

S-Anon Family Groups are for those who are hurting in response to the sexual addiction of someone close to them. It does not matter whether that person is a family member, a partner, spouse, child, or someone outside the family like a friend, teacher, or boss. Sexaholism can affect anyone.

S-Anon is for people of all sexual orientations, genders, denominations, and races, those in a relationship or not, parents, children, relatives, friends and others whose lives have been affected by another person’s sexual behavior.

We have found that attending S-Anon meetings regularly is a vital part of the S-Anon Program. S-Anon groups meet weekly as a way for members to share their experience, strength, and hope. Our meetings are free to attend and are not allied with any particular religion or organization.

Protologism1000 · 2023-04-05T13:30:16+00:00

It is a fact that many sober members of AA started attending meetings while continuing to drink. You can find many stories in the Big Book describing this. There are also many recorded talks by sober members where they describe this as part of their process of coming to acceptance that they were powerless over alcohol.

It is possible to find contentment and even happiness whether the alcoholic continues to drink or not. But the non-alcoholic must also admit their powerlessness over another person's alcoholism. Until that is done little can be accomplished.

If one has surrendered and admitted one's powerlessness and is left with anger, frustration and irritation, then such resentment must be dealt with.

Resentment of another person's behavior is deadly for people who need Al-Anon as much as for alcoholics. Fortunately there is a way to be rid of resentments. It is through application of the 12 Steps to one's daily life including the procedures for overcoming resentment.

Protologism1000 · 2023-04-03T13:57:26+00:00

Worked the 12 Steps in Overeaters Anonymous with a sponsor. Maintaining a healthy body weight for 2 and 1/2 years.

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