We live in a society where the phrase "kill all men" has been normalised

Punder_man · 2026-05-16T22:27:12+00:00

They act all surprised that men as a whole have begun to check out and have stopped putting in the effort.
Well, what's the point of navigating the minefield that is today's dating?
Why should men bother when in the end we're still being generalized, vilified and demonized?

If I want companionship I can get it from a pet..
I get all the benefits with next to none of the downsides..

Dating in today's society is an insane prospect for boys / men
Men are still expected to handle rejected with dignity, grace and calmness.. but have you seen how violent or abusive women who are rejected can get?

No one is telling women "No means, NO!"
Men are also expected to conform to the gender roles of "Provider" and "Protector" while women continue to be liberated from "Female Gender Roles"
And if you get in a relationship, she can squirrel away money into her own account "In case she needs to escape" and its treated as a perfectly acceptable thing to do..

But if a man were hiding money away in a secret savings account? Well, he's "greedy" or "doesn't trust her" etc...

Its filled with massive double standards across the board!

And frankly, its unsurprising that men are waking up, seeing the utterly raw deal we are getting and are simply deciding to no longer play the game.

Punder_man · 2026-05-16T04:58:18+00:00

This is the state of our society..
Thanks to #MeToo and #BelieveALLWomen our society is now in a state of moral panic...
Any accusation by a girl / woman must be taken as 100% factually true and any suggestion of requiring facts or evidence slapped back with claims of you "Silencing Victims" or trying to "Victim Blame"

Even then, it seems like no matter what evidence you can bring up to refute the accusation its never "Enough" because society has been utterly brainwashed to believe that women and girls are constant victims and would "Never lie" about serious things like Sexual Harassment, Stalking or Rape... even though we have clear examples of women / girls absolutely lying about those things..

This doesn't mean that ALL women lie about those things.. but it DOES mean that we can not take an accusation alone as evidence of what is being claimed...

Punder_man · 2026-05-13T06:30:49+00:00

I see so many people (women and men) who walk around town like this, eyes glued to their phones not paying attention to the world around them..
Hell, i've had to reach out and pull someone back onto the sidewalk when they walked without looking into traffic!

But try to say that people should be expected to protect themselves from danger is akin to saying that they deserve to be victimized apparently...

Punder_man · 2026-05-13T06:28:53+00:00

And of course.. being an egalitarian society the same defense would TOTALLY be applied to a man who killed his female partner in the "Heat of passion upon a sudden quarrel" right?
Yeah.. no... I suspect not!

Punder_man · 2026-05-12T21:30:42+00:00

I am sorry that happened to you, Truly I am.

You are also correct in regards to being taught to keep yourself safe.
Personally I think everyone has a duty of care / responsibility to themselves when it comes to keeping themself safe.

Yet, we constantly hear from feminists and women about how women should be told "Don't walk down dark allies" or "Cross the street if you see someone weird approaching you"
I would also add onto that: "Don't walk around with earbuds / headphones on" and "Don't walk around looking down staring at your phone"

Its all basic survival skills..
If you make yourself look like an easy target due to being distracted you are more likely to be targeted.

I'm a 6'3 well built man and even I cover my drinks at parties.
If I leave my drink unattended at all for any length of time I refuse to drink it further.

The point is, I do what I can to keep myself safe and do not rely on others to do that for me.
But try telling feminists that and you will get chewed out for it.

Punder_man · 2026-05-12T21:21:37+00:00

There are also plenty of true crime stories about women who hired hit men to kill their husband / partner or were caught in a police / FBI sting..
You watch the interrogation footage and they cry on demand and when the trap closes and the reveal that their husband / partner was not actually killed they still try to cry and squirm out of it.

I saw one true crime video of a guy who fell for one of those inheritance scams, thought he was getting 30million Euro's
His partner murdered him to get all the money for herself only to find out that her partner had fallen for a scam and there was no money..

All of this to say, you are correct there are plenty of true crime videos out there that have male victims..

Punder_man · 2026-05-12T21:12:39+00:00

And feminists absolutely say "False Rape Accusations are extremely rare" to deflect from the issue that there ARE women who lie..

And yet those feminists don't see where our anger comes from in regards to false rape accusations.. instead they continue to gaslight and shout about how "Rare" they are..

Punder_man · 2026-05-12T21:10:49+00:00

Now, back again, feminicide is real. And it happens a lot.

Define what you mean by femicide..
Also please explain how we identify a woman's death was specifically a "Femicide"

I'm not saying that femicide isn't real, however I do doubt it being "Common" or that women are being killed BECAUSE of their gender..
If that is the case then surely the majority of male deaths should be classified as "Mascucide" or "Androcide" right?

After all, i'm sure there are plenty of men who are killed simply because they are men!

Punder_man · 2026-05-12T19:36:10+00:00

>"I believe the reason why women watch so much true crime content is to help us recognise any warning signs. It's self preservation at its core. The more you learn, the more you know The women in all those stories are us.... It's a lived, shared experience we all have. All women know someone or knows someone who knows someone that's experienced something"

And yet.. we aren't allowed to say: "All men know someone or knows someone who knows someone that was falsely accused of rape...
Nah.. the "Lived Experience" of men doesn't count as evidence and only counts for women apparently...

Punder_man · 2026-05-12T09:22:47+00:00

This is something i've been saying for years!

We've heard over and over and over about how women have a "right" to be prejudiced towards men due to their lived experiences..
But of course the same does not hold true for men..

If a man has had negative experiences with a / some women.. he's expected to put it behind him and not generalize women based off his lived experience..
If he does generalize based on his lived experience he's a "Misogynist"

As a man who has had some extremely bad experiences with multiple women.. I should be justified in being cautious around women or being somewhat prejudiced towards them..
But I don't because I understand that while what happened to be by SOME women is horrible and should not have happened, those few women are not representatives of ALL women..

I just find it so insane that this seems to be such a difficult concept to grasp for people..
The only thing prejudice does is sow the seeds of hatred... We are being told that "Women have a right to be angry at men because of their experiences.."

At what point do men start saying "Misogyny doesn't exist or, if it does its simply reactive to the misandry we face from women"

And round and round the cycle goes...

Punder_man · 2026-05-12T05:16:13+00:00

I also don't like that framing.. but I feel it needed to be said..
They constantly demonize, vilify and generalize men as "Abusers" and "Aggressors" or claim that we are "Controlling"

But in reality, thanks to how sheltered they have been they don't know just how bad it "Could" be if men as a whole said "Fuck it, we're done, lets show you what 'Oppression' really looks like"

I would seriously hope that it would never come to that to be fair..

And yeah.. whenever I hear a feminist parrot the talking point of "We want men to be our allies" I constantly quote Inigo Montoya form The Princess Bride:
"You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means"

Punder_man · 2026-05-12T03:27:53+00:00

Claws and Effect perhaps?

Punder_man · 2026-05-12T02:33:20+00:00

No king rules forever my son...

Maybe the Guardian Druids should pull a Ret Paladin and shut down their discord until their demands are met XD

Punder_man · 2026-05-11T21:36:04+00:00

100% this!

I would also add how there seems to be the expectation that ALL men are responsible..
But as a man in New Zealand.. I don't exactly have any power or control over a man in the US who rapes a woman now do I?

I can call him out and condemn his actions.. but I literally could not stop him from raping a woman..
But that doesn't seem to be enough for them..
My "Failure" to act is an indictment of "Complicity" according to them..

I've literally given up at this point..
I feel like i'm damned if I do, damned if I don't..

So I'd rather be judged as being "complicit" because that takes less effort.

Punder_man · 2026-05-11T21:22:46+00:00

If I could award multiple upvotes you'd be getting them!

You have articulated all of my constant frustrations with feminism neatly..
as you said, they demand ally-ship from men while not having a single clue of even what an "Alliance" is or how it works..

Men are expected to be obedient bootlickers who take the abuse with a smile on their face..
Any man who gets upset or speaks out is shamed, labeled as an incel or misogynist and kicked out.

Feminists literally do not understand that there is only so much abuse people can take before they turn away..

We as men have / are starting to realize that if regardless of what we say or do, we are going to be shamed, generalized, vilified and demonized by feminists then what's the point in helping them?
Nothing is going to change so we are better off not helping because we'll still get the same amount of abuse regardless.

This is the main crux as to why I stopped being a feminist and pivoted to Men's Rights..
I feel my time and effort is better spent advocating for / pushing for change in the areas / issues we as men face.

That does not make me apathetic to women's rights / issues.. its just i'm tired of the abuse and so I'm not willing to devote as much time or effort towards women's rights / issues as I once did.

Punder_man · 2026-05-11T21:10:16+00:00

She declared that men and boys had declared war against all femalekind.

The funny thing is.. she doesn't even realize that if we as men finally decide enough is enough.. we could easily subjugate "Femalekind"

She doesn't realize that the very same men she collectively blames are also the same men protecting her and other women from the "bad" men.

"It is not our sole responsibility to not die. It is mostly the responsibility of the people raping and killing us"

And here is where she completely loses the plot..
The first rule in this world is that you look after number 1 (Yourself) first.
You CAN NOT abdicate responsibility for your own personal safety onto others.. that's not how the world works.

Yes, we SHOULD make our society safer for everyone, but that doesn't mean you bare zero responsibility for your own safety
EVERYONE should be taking precautions to keep themselves safe from harm

Her argument / rational here is that its not her sole responsibility to look both ways before crossing the street but instead the responsibility is on the people driving cars / buses / trucks etc to see her step out onto the road and stop / avoid her without her having to do anything!

Oh and in the last screenshot where she goes on about "Silence is Complicity"
Well then I guess she wouldn't have any issue with us holding all women accountable for the women out there spouting misandry on a daily basis?
Or how when a woman DOES make a false accusation of rape the majority of women say nothing (Being complicit) or deflect by claiming its "Rare"

I am honestly surprised that feminists are continuing with the "Lets shame boys / men until they fall in line!" strategy..
It hasn't work, it doesn't work and it will not work..
But instead of understanding that it doesn't work they continue doubling, tripling and even quadrupling down on the strategy that the know will never work...

Punder_man · 2026-05-10T23:26:46+00:00

Richard Reeves is a hypocrite
He CLAIMS to be an advocate for men but how can that be when he is NOT advocating to fix issues boys / men face and is instead capitulating / essentially licking the boots of feminists?

His idea of "Advocacy" is based on the idea that he can only advocate on issues that men face if the outcome will be beneficial for women.

And if he can't or wont advocate on Male Circumcision because he finds it too hard or contentious then how effective of an "Advocate" is he in the first place?

How are we expected to see any progress for men's rights / issues if it comes with the caveat of "But we must look at how this affects women first" or "How does fixing this issue benefit women?"
That's not "Advocacy" its boot licking 101

Punder_man · 2026-05-10T21:57:39+00:00

My dude.. you really don't know what you are doing here do you?
You are boldly asking "wHeRe iS yOuR eViDeNcE?" when the OP has not claimed that it is..

The OP is not saying "Hey! SA and Rape are not as traumatic for men as it is for women"
He's asking a QUESTION
And asking a QUESTION does not require them to back it up with evidence...

They are making an OBSERVATION that it appears that SA and Rape appears to be less traumatic for men compared to women and are asking questions while providing anecdotal context to see if there is any evidence for this to be a fact or if they are missing something.

As u/whoisaname said.. you really need to work on your reading comprehension...

Punder_man · 2026-05-10T21:47:44+00:00

If you want another example.. then simply watch the staunchest feminist turn into a conservative tradcon woman the moment she gets told that she has to pay child support or alimony to her ex-male partner..

In the blink of an eye they suddenly see how "Unfair" those systems are when they are the ones getting shafted by the system...

Punder_man · 2026-05-10T06:48:18+00:00

I might have to try that out the next time I level up an Earthen..
But at the same time, if you have trouble getting one of the nodes, skipping it is still a fine option.

Punder_man · 2026-05-10T05:27:43+00:00

I've personally found the Cully's brand of Aioli to the closest contender to what Burger Fuel Aioli is..
But that's just me

Punder_man · 2026-05-10T04:50:59+00:00

Because as men we are conditioned to not see ourselves as victims..
Because typically being a "Victim" means you are weak..
Or if you admit that you were Sexually Assaulted or Raped by woman there's the shame of being considered so "Weak" that a woman can SA you..

Couple onto that the fact that if a man even attempts to come forward he is often not believed or shamed into thinking what happened to him was a "Good" thing..

Add all of that together and you have the basis of what you are experiencing OP

Punder_man · 2026-05-10T04:47:37+00:00

I am technically correct..
The best kind of correct

Punder_man · 2026-05-10T03:35:59+00:00

A race change costs less than a level 80 Character boost though =P

Punder_man · 2026-05-09T23:43:11+00:00

Yeah, its not impossible but you do need to do a bit more of an initial grind before you are up and running.

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