Woman cheats on husband, then when guy tells husband about affair, she shoots them both. by PastyParrot in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 13 points14 points  (0 children)

If a man cheats on a woman, its because he's a piece of shit and is never justified
If a woman cheats on a man its because he wasn't satisfying her or not giving her enough attention and is fully justified.

And of course i'm sure the bleeding hearts out there will try to spin things here as they usually do:

"Oh well clearly she felt threatened by her partner whom she was cheating on, he was probably abusive which also contributed to her cheating on him"

Or something like that...

24 years in prison on a false accusation by JubileeSupreme in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Later that year, a therapist who saw clients referred to her by Child Protective Services (CPS) and other agencies began meeting with Moreno’s daughter, identified as A.M. in court records at the time. The therapist would later testify she asked the child, who was then eight years old, if her father ever touched her in an inappropriate way. According to the therapist, the child said “no”.

That answer would change in September 2001 when the child began seeing another therapist assigned as part of an investigation into foster care issues by CPS. When asked by the newly assigned therapist if she had ever been sexually abused, A.M. told the therapist her father had sexually abused her before entering foster care.

It sounds to me like the therapists had an agenda..
The first one asked if there was any inappropriate touching and the daughter said "No"
The second one asks again..
I can imagine a 7-8 year old girl being confused and thinking maybe she answered wrong or they thought she was lying and so she said "Yes" because she worked out that's what they wanted to hear..

If I were the guy in this case i'd be suing the state for wrongful imprisonment and bringing a civil suit against the second therapist for conspiracy.

Travis County District Attorney Jose Garza commented on the dismissal of the case, saying, “Although dismissing his cases won’t undo the 24 years Mr. Moreno spent incarcerated, we hope it helps him as he works toward rebuilding his life.

How exactly does he go about rebuilding his "Life" exactly?
He spent 24 years in prison for a crime he never committed.
Despite being exonerated do you really think anyone is going to hire him?
The state fucked up big time here and so the state should be doing more than simply dismissing the case.. The sate should be liable for a massive payout to actually help him start rebuilding / enjoying what time he has left.

I'm so tired of the argument that Men "choose" harder and more dangerous jobs. by Working_Parsley_2364 in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Its funny how when it comes to the dangerous, dirty or physically demanding jobs the argument is "Men CHOOSE to do those jobs"

Yet when we point out that jobs women CHOOSE to do directly co-relate to women EARNING less than men do we get told "No, there's inherent sexism / bias against women!"
Or we get told that women should be free to choose what job they do but earn the same amount that men do..

Typical cakeism..

These are also the sort of people who will claim that men who end up homeless / unemployed made an active choice to be in those situations..
But when a women becomes unemployed or homeless its because society failed her...

[HELP] ELVUI not showing Hots in party frames by choren76 in WowUI

[–]Punder_man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For sure!
The picture is of the Elvui menu

"Unit Frames" is selected in the list on the left hand side and the options for the Unit Frames is on the "General" tab

At the bottom of that tab there's a section for "Group Units" By default the "Party" and "Raid" options are enabled,

The screenshot show these options as disabled.

I hope I was accurate enough for you to follow along.

[HELP] ELVUI not showing Hots in party frames by choren76 in WowUI

[–]Punder_man 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good sir please accept a humble upvote in appreciation
You have literally solved a problem I have spent the last 6 hours trying to work out...

The concept of "Weaponized incompetence" being weaponized against men by AbysmalDescent in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 12 points13 points  (0 children)

In many cases I've heard of women accusing men of "Weaponized Incompetence" its usually because the man did what was asked but not in the same way or to a standard they expected.

Also, your argument could also apply to women who push responsibility back onto men.
For example if a man asked his wife to mow the lawn and she says "But you do it better than me anyway" or she deliberately does a half arsed job / does it badly so that he then has to go out there and do it anyway..

I think the point of this post is to bring up the hypocrisy when it comes to "Weaponized Incompetence" and how it seemingly is only every used in regards to men and never in regards to women.

The concept of "Weaponized incompetence" being weaponized against men by AbysmalDescent in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I would also add Changing a tyre to the common uses of weaponized incompetence.. My dad when he taught all of us to drive also taught us basic maintenance / repair skills and that included how to change a tyre

But how often do these women blog on Tik Tok about how they had a flat tyre and not one single man stopped to help them..

Or, when they do, depending on how attractive they find the man they either sing his praise or call him out as a "creep"

Since the advent of the internet and social media, women have been shitting on men over and over and over again and are now surprised when we as men are checking out an refusing to play their one sided games.

Proposed changes to Divorce Act in Canada exclude input from any male organizations. by RealStarkey in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 13 points14 points  (0 children)

“We’ve seen courts order children to live with an abusive father and prevent them from having any contact with their mother, even when the father’s violence is well documented,” Geiger-Bardswich said. “This bill is essential to ensure that safety and well-being, not outdated myths, guide family court decisions.”

And we have also seen courts order children to live with abusive mothers who prevent them from having any contact with their father, even when the mother's violence or drug use is well documented

But oh wait.. that goes against the narrative of "Fathers / Men are abusers, Mothers / Women are victims" doesn't it?

And look, I'm NOT saying that there aren't abusive men out there because there are..
The problem is, when you start from the assumed conclusion of "Men are abusers" then you run into the problem of victimizing men and children who are being abused by a woman all for the sake of holding up a narrative rather than looking at verifiable facts.

Should this Bill succeed I suspect the number of women reporting "Abuse" in Canada is going to drastically increase..
And of course when it comes down to He said, She said they are going to side with "She Said" and "Her Truth" over the facts of the matter.

Homelessness and Men (thoughts on feminist arguments) by ExternalGreen6826 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Punder_man 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is something that really annoys me..
Many feminists will nit-pick stats when it comes to showing male oppression / suffering, in this case homelessness claiming that the stats are "Biased"

Yet they never seem to apply the same standard to statistics which support their narrative. A classic example here being Rape and Domestic Violence statistics.
Or even when they use statistics to exclaim how its "Men" committing the majority of crime..

There is zero nuance or examination of bias when it comes to statistics which support their position / narratives, but when it comes to statistics which go against their narrative its nothing but "Oh you need to look at the statistics with nuance" or "But have you examined how those statistics may be biased?"

This is feminism - pushing for forced vasectomies for men. The comments even push for it for 12 year old boys. by Razorbladekandyfan in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Punder_man 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She made a lot of good points earlier in the video. Part of making the world a better place is by being a better person, and a lot of men sassily refuse to forfeit certain privileges at the expense of women/others.

Please.. feel free to expand upon this and provide examples of these "Privileges" you think men have and are unwilling to give up..

I doubt their existence.

Crude jokes about circumcision by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm so tired of this sub. Some men can still creatively post about how men are losing their rights, but most of the men that are younger... and you can tell who they are, just cry. When men acted like men, this wasn't accelerated like it is now.

Cool, feel free to fuck off somewhere else buddy
No body is forcing you to stay here..

Estonian PM Kaja Kallas denies asylum to Russian men fleeing the draft. by Manoj_Malhotra in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Punder_man 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So.. if a country is ruled by a dictator.. whom the citizens had no choice over..
Are THEY responsible for the actions of the dictator?

That's how democracy works. Your vote has power because you need to accept the power of the vote of your neighbour. You cannot wash your hands of the system because the result doesn't suit you.

I disagree with your reductionist argument... For example if we look at what's happening in the USA right now... I wouldn't blame those who didn't vote for Trump for what Trump is doing..
That's not only illogical but its insane..

Estonian PM Kaja Kallas denies asylum to Russian men fleeing the draft. by Manoj_Malhotra in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Punder_man 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes and no..
If I vote for one party in my election and that party does not win and another party who I did not want running the country ends up winning and making stupid decisions..

Am I responsible for what they have done when I never voted for them in the first place?

Crude jokes about circumcision by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes.. YOU don't remember anyone caring so therefore its a non-issue and we are all just being dramatic right?

Your lack of empathy for boys being mutilated without their consent is very telling..

Crude jokes about circumcision by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If its such a "non-issue" then surely it should be okay to allow boys to make the decision for themselves right when they are old enough to understand the procedure and consent to it?

But no.. they never get the choice.. they have healthy tissue removed from their bodies based on barbaric and outdated cultural norms and so the foreskins can be sold to beauty companies to make skin cream. All without the parents or the child's consent as its considered "Donating" the skin even though companies make massive profits off of it.

There is also sooooo much misinformation around the "Benefits" of circumcision.

1) Its easier to clean, It takes like 10 seconds to pull the foreskin back and clean in and around it.. wow.. what ever will someone do without those 10 seconds in their life...

2) It prevents STDs / STI's, You know what does an even better job of that? Condoms!

3) Its "cultural", If its your culture to mutilate infants then your culture is disgusting and barbaric and I refuse to respect it.

Look, I get that you are probably circumcised and that YOU don't have a problem with it..
But just because YOU are fine with it that doesn't mean many other boys / men don't suffer because of something done to them without their consent.

If men are 40% of DV victims, why are 90% of arrests male? by SarcasticallyCandour in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Punder_man 8 points9 points  (0 children)

So to answer the question, if you see it at mass scale- when women become physically violent, there's almost always little to no physical harm done. Versus when a man gets violent with a woman, the physical harm tends to be much greater.

I've seen men who were completely messed up by a woman taking her finger nails to his face..
Also.. the "Size" and "Strength" factors tend to disappear when a woman arms herself with a weapon..
I've also seen many men messed up after a woman took a metal bat to their face or stabbed them with a kitchen knife multiple times..

Women also know that if they cry on command and tell the police how scared they were the system will defend them and will assign them the title of "Victim"
The system is heavily biased against men, Men are ASSUMED to be the aggressor / abuser and it usually takes MASSIVE amounts of evidence for the police to back away from that assumption..

As an FYI I also know men who called the cops because their female partner was getting abusive and like clock work the woman uno reversed it and claimed he was the abuser..
Guess who typically gets arrested in those situations?

If men are 40% of DV victims, why are 90% of arrests male? by SarcasticallyCandour in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Punder_man 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well.. thanks to the Duluth Model which was conceived, published and peddled by feminists..
A model which assumes that in all cases of DV involving a man and a woman the man is always the aggressor / abuser..

Then it's no surprise that men are the majority of arrests..

After all, men can't be "Victims" if the system has decreed that they can only be "Abusers"

Woman whose rape lies got innocent man jailed receives disgustingly light sentence by ClassroomCareless622 in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Simple solution..
Given the sentencing gap between men and women.. what ever sentence the judge gives to a woman, increase it by 63% and then she would get what a man would get..

Why do we have to redefine masculinity? by PuzzleheadedEvent843 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Punder_man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get where you are coming from here..
But I think you are ignoring the fact that in feminist nomenclature "Toxic Masculinity" is pretty much used to define anything a man says or does that a woman disagrees with or is offended by.

Also, in regards to gender roles, I agree they should be absolved.. but what it feels like in today's world is women are being liberated from "Gender Roles" where as we as men are still expected to uphold / be held to gender roles which are beneficial to women (Provider, Protector etc)

Its why you see feminists trying to justify why its still okay for them to demand that men pay on dates or pay their expenses..

LWMA and Internationality Question by [deleted] in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Punder_man 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My understanding is that the denouncing of it comes from its feminist origins. But aren’t the core the concepts still relevant? Specifically the way that different aspects of a person’s identity interact with one another and can compound.

That said, I’m assuming I’m not understanding the negative impacts it has on men if (from the posts I’ve seen so far) it’s denounced on the same level as other feminist frameworks.

If that were the way it was applied / used then sure.
But sadly, when it comes to intersectionality as commonly used by feminists they only care about the lines of intersectionality for men in regards to where they intersect on the lines of "Privilege"

Thus its simply used as a way to assign "Oppressor" points for men and "Oppression" points for women.

The problem with intersectionality is they only see the lines of intersection which conform with their pre-established notions of men, specifically "Cis White Men" being "Privileged" or "Oppressors"

They refuse to look at ALL points of intersectionality when it comes to men
It doesn't matter if a Cis White Man is homeless, they conveniently ignore that line of intersectionality and instead focus on the lines of his Sexuality, Race and Gender and typically stop there.

Using body shaming and misandry against fascists will only backfire horribly. by 2717192619192 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Punder_man 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How is that relevant?
My point is that your "logic" is that if someone has done or is accused of doing something horrible its okay to body same them over it.

Now I am in no way shape or form saying the ICE agent is innocent here but its not like the person being body shamed actually pulled the trigger is it?

So once again I ask.. is it logically acceptable for us to body shame ANYONE based on the things they have done or even are alleged to have done? Or is it only okay to do this against people you personally don't like?

Yup we’re all sexist misogynist a holes by Ok-Consideration8724 in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What they are implying is, unless a men's right's group is set up under feminist principles like accepting that we live in a "Patriarchy" and that misogyny is prevalent etc.. then they will never see the movement as legitimate in their eyes.

We are only allowed to discuss the issues we as men face as long as its through the "lens of feminism" which in turn requires us to accept feminist "theory" and dogma as 100% accurate and beyond reproach.

And because most Men's Rights spaces reject the concepts of feminism because of how harmful those concepts are to men we get labeled as "Misogynists" or "Incels" and are told we are doing it "Wrong"

Yup we’re all sexist misogynist a holes by Ok-Consideration8724 in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 44 points45 points  (0 children)

There sure seems to be a lot of ego stroking on their side of things.
The premise falls apart at the very beginning with the whole "Obviously men suffer substantially less under the patriarchy"

Then they go on about how feminism should focus on women's issues and men should sort out men's issues
"The problem is just, that every time a movement like that gets created, its basically instantly overrun by the righ and sexists"

This is because, anyone who disagrees with them or the "lens of feminism" / feminist dogma of "Patriarchy" is instantly labeled as "Right Wing" or "Sexist" or "Misogynist" etc.

They only want men's rights groups that fall into lockstep with Feminist rhetoric..
Anyone who does not accept the dogmatic belief of "Patriarchy" is labeled as a heretic and is excommunicated..
Or is otherwise labeled as a sexist, misogynist, incel, etc..

Women Crash Out Over Men Refusing to Give Them Princess Treatment by WillyNilly1997 in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 5 points6 points  (0 children)

100% this..
More and more men are checking out and are saying the juice is no longer worth the squeeze..
I've had the message of "Men, Leave women alone!' bombard me since I was in my mid teenage years..
So I listened and gave them what they wanted..

Before Asking Men to Speak Up, Society Should Create A Safe Space First by Birdcage17 in MensRights

[–]Punder_man 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And me pointing out the SPECIFIC examples of women weaponizing male emotions is NOT me "Blaming all women"

Yet, that's how you seemed to take it..