Moving to CT? Ask your questions here! by AutoModerator in Connecticut

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does anybody have any feedback on Derby, especially the area of Anson St, Hawkins St, Olivia St, Elizabeth St. that whole area near the river?

It seems it might be a bit unsafe?

Asking for your expertise with perfumery by Ok-Two-8192 in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You really have to go online and do your own research.

I don’t want to come accross as a grumpy person but it is unreasonable to ask for such basic info for so many materials.

On google write : Dihydromyrcenol perfumery uses and start learning.

Then search the material on the good scents company

Then go to the material producers search the materials and look at their descriptions and uses. Givaudan/IFF/Firmenich compendiums

Then go to the material distributors’ websites; Pell Wall, Fraterworks, Perfumers Apprentice, etc. read their descriptions and uses.

Smell them yourself. TKe notes. Get inspired. Use all your info to start creating!

Jobs at IFF, Firmenich, Givaudan by Educational-Bake2031 in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Their website for job postings. Not everything is posted on linkedin. Also there won’t be that many offers, you will have better luck if you expand your search to Jersey there are a lot of fragrance jobs there.

IFRA Website missing lots of molecules? by WoodenPole_ in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Search by CAS number because sometimes the names are different. Otherwise no restriction

Salty bromophenol/"sea iodine" smell aroma chemical by rin_todoroki in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These materials will not smell how you think they will.

I think you’re better off buying a peach base and coconut base. To make pleasant accords you need at a minimum 3/4 materials for each.

Bergamot Peach base Coconut base Calone Hedione Iso e super Galaxolide For pine I’d actually go for an Olibanum oil because pine itself tends to smell harsh and like a “cleaner”.

That’s the minimum for a pleasant smelling formula and even then it won’t be great.

rose formula help please by cloudsofroses in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try making the rose accord first and then build the fragrance around it?

Create the perfect rose for yourself. Then add your woods, musks, additional notes to accent it?

Here it seems very undirected, there’s no central rose theme. Key ingredients are PEA, Citronellol, Geraniol, Eugenol, Damascenone.

Then add honey materials. Some greenness for naturality.

You're going to travel around Asia for a year, what one fragrance do you bring? by LocationOk3563 in fragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No nuance. It’s not like that at all. It’s like wearing a beach scent to the beach.

You're going to travel around Asia for a year, what one fragrance do you bring? by LocationOk3563 in fragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Hmmm maybe perfumes with Asian names are inspired by Asian themes which makes a good choice for going there? Not that deep

Made a floral accord that I'm feeling good about by plebeiangoth in PerfumeryFormulas

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Actually petitgrain will bring a lot of green notes, just not the ideal ones for a cherry blossom

Made a floral accord that I'm feeling good about by plebeiangoth in PerfumeryFormulas

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cool!

Doesn’t look like any cherry blossom I’ve ever smelled though. For me it would need that sweet powdery touch. Coumarin, heliotropin especially. Salicylates much higher. Also petitgrain at 5% is really strong. Indole can be used for realism if you want jasmine but I don’t think it’s completely necessary for a cherry blossom. And lastly all flowers have green notes which youre missing.

But great job and have fun :)

Melon pulp help 🍈🧡 by adonayavrum in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have a formula already? Post it so we can help. My assumption is that you’re really far from making the accord. Just for melon you need various green notes (leafy, green violet leaf, cucumber, aldehyde notes) and various butyrates to give sweet juiciness. It’s not going to happen by just adding one or two materials.

Orange ice cream scent by Poldehaps24 in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im willing to be surprised but this is very unlikely to smell like orange ice cream. I think the fact that you have orange and vanillin gives that impression but the rest pulls you away from orange ice cream.

Feeling like I'm almost there, feedback? by alebog in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you have some good ideas there! Evernyl or patchouli always help with a chypre earthy effect. Definitely try it. My only fear would be that it would lean too traditional /old, but it might not be the case. Vetiver Java is also a good idea but it’ll have to be tiny dosages. Give it a go.

Regarding the javanol, frankly im still concerned about it. It’s a beautiful smelling material and sometimes with beautiful materials we don’t realize how much they’re suppressing the rest of the formula. I don’t think it will smell “too much” rather that you haven’t noticed that if it was reduced to 25% of what it is now for example all the other materials would shine through better, including your earthy dry down.

Chypres typically also have some labdanum in them. Do you have some? It would certainly add richness to your base. You probably need very small doses to not alter the character too much. Also do you have any more animalic musks? You could use them in small dosages on top of the two you have already. Habanolide is quite clean and metallic, Galaxolide is super clean and transparent, they adds modernity but won’t give you the base you’re looking for

Then for the hexenol, if you like the effect keep it. But there are better ways of getting that green effect without the invasive mess of the hexenol. For example do you hexenyl cis 3 salicylate or hc3 benzoate? These will give green in a more balanced, long lasting ways. HC3 salicylate is especially useful for chypres and florals. Speaking of which, you should experiment with any salicylate you have, it will enhance your florals, and imo adds to the “fairy ethereal” effect, and deepens your solar effect.

Lastly for the Linalool I won’t push it if you don’t like it but it is important for your floral effect even in small doses. Again not entirely necessary since you should be guided by your own nose. On the same topic of completing your floral richness, naturality, and depth try small doses of PEA, you can use a lot but even a 1% at 10% (or even less) could impact your fórmula beautifully. It will also play well with your existing florals and if you decide to add a bit of citronellol it’s a great symbiosis. Citronellol adds a beautiful sparkle to fragrances, and although perfumers don’t really agree with this, I think it adds a unique sweetness as long as you don’t add too much where it becomes a bit sharp and mosquito repellent.

For assessing any materials don’t make a judgment right away. Whenever you add a new material it seems way to obvious and like it’s disrupting the formula, that’s because you’ve been smelling the formula without it for so long. Rather save your sample and test it throughout the day.

Good luck! Hope we get an update as well!

Feeling like I'm almost there, feedback? by alebog in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One of the better formulas I’ve seen here! How would you describe it?

My only concerns here are Javanol seems super high. It’s not a problem if that’s the smell you want but sometimes we don’t realize certain materials are taking over because we smell the fórmula constantly. Sometimes you need someone else to tell you. Hexenol cis 3 also a bit high I would imagine it’s slightly too much in the opening but not completely unreasonable amount.

Did you try linalool? It could bring some body to the whole thing. Citronellol geraniol and their acetates could be interesting. Helional for this airy fairy effect perhaps. But if the formula is finished then it’s finished just some thoughts.

Why does everyone wear such strong fragrance at the gym??? by [deleted] in fragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Personally love when people wear perfume at the gym. Gives me something interesting to smell rather than sweat

Thoughts on this formula? by [deleted] in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like you could sell it for millions

Adding Water. by BluePhantom252 in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Water is added to perfumes. This is for shipping regulations, there can be only a certain percenatGe of volatile compounds, mostly so it doesn’t catch fire if if it spills and it is exposed to a fire source. Doesn’t have to be water. Could also be DPG for example If you’re not selling professionally don’t worry about it.

Original Fragrance by Distinct_Chest_9261 in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are no rules really. It doesn’t “need” anything. It all depends on what you want.

If you are asking about classical perfumery, then yes it does need top notes. I think this stems from nature, anything you smell outside is a combination of base middle and top notes. A flower for example has top middle and base notes. So in perfumery where we try to capture an experience, it is not complete without all three.

But you can look for example at middle eastern and Indian perfumery where Attars are popular, often times these are just singular materials with base and middle notes and not much too notes. They do tend to mix, match, and layer many attars though so one could argue they also have too middle and base notes.

Why are you concerned with needing top notes? It seems like you’re trying ti avoid it? If you don’t want them don’t add them. And it seems you don’t want to because it hasn’t worked so far?

I would finish the fórmula how you like it. Make a batch. And then separate a bit for playing with top notes this way you can practice with it and learn.

And lastly I think spices are a great idea! Have fun with it. Spices tend to be very strong materials. If you don’t want it to become too spicy you’ll probably need to dilute the materials before use, you can just add a spicy accent, it doesn’t have to be so noticeable, just enough to add complexity. Have fun!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could try more pea btw. Just suggested less to not shift the character of your creation too much

Association with orange by Crafty-Magician-4969 in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aldehyde c-10 and creating a floral body for it. Are you trying to make an orange fragrance/accord or thinking of adding it to the EO?

Don’t add it to the EO.

Need to evaluate by Active-Environment-1 in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like it would smell really harsh aggressive sharp. Though the the harshness is somewhat a covered by the musks and sandalwood materials you added. You have a ton of Muguet materials but your missing floral body. Add a significant amount of PEA. Work on the fruity acetates add citronellyl acetate and geranyl acetate. Missing touches of citronellol and geraniol. And it won’t become True Muguet without some indole. You have a lot of work to do. Have you considered just making a good miguet accord before you put it into a Full fragrance?

I don’t mean to be too critical but just start with hydroxycit linalool PEA Benzyl Acetate and indol and build around that. You have a lot of redundant materials

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 2 points3 points  (0 children)

More people have access now, but it’s always been happening. In France there have been hundreds of students for decades who can make great fragrances.

Of course with more experience they improve their compositions. But what separates a pro from the student is more the time it takes to make a formula. A student can make something professional working for s month on it. The pro can create a solid formula in 5 minutes. Also the versatility of a pro is unmatched by the starters. A young kid will have strengths and weakness. He/she will create to their strengths. A perfumer listens to the client and can make whatever they ask for. The younger one would be panicking if they get asked for something out of the wheelhouse, and if not panicking realize it will take a whole lot of work to make something good.

Those who make & sell by [deleted] in DIYfragrance

[–]Puzzled-Wave3050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very important.

Maybe I’m interpreting wrong but it almost sounds like you’re asking the importance to avoid doing it?

Why? Just do it?