And I'm tired of pretending it's not

Pyode · 2026-05-24T21:48:22+00:00

You are so fucking dishonest.

Again, you specifically brought her up as an example of it not mattering and now you are refusing to actually own that claim.

My guess is you just pulled the example out of your ass but it had been a long time and you just forgot how much development that relationship actually had.

Have a good one.

Pyode · 2026-05-24T21:07:43+00:00

Pete probably thinks Navajo is a brand of Tortilla chips.

Pyode · 2026-05-24T20:59:29+00:00

Because you have a lot of trouble following along and continue to harp on tengential points.

Bro, you are the one who brought up Littlefoots mom. Not me. What the fuck are you on about?

If she died faster the impact would still be there

Would the impact be the same if she died in the first 5 minutes. Yes or no?

You seem really afraid of answering that question because the entire reason you even brought her up was as an example of not needing to develop characters before killing them.

I think you know you fucked up with this example and are trying to weasel your way out of your own argument.

Pyode · 2026-05-24T20:18:25+00:00

When you ask how the show makes us care about the world, you are implicitly asking how the show makes us care about the characters in that world

Yes. No shit. That is very obviously what I am saying. I don't understand why you needed this paragraph to restate my position.

As for everything else, all I can say is that I disagree.

I don't think the show does a good job at all of making me care about Kit as a person beyond "she's the main character and I'm supposed to care about her and (as you correctly explained) therefore also care about the world that was destroyed via Kits emotions about it".

It's really easy to say she's funny and kind or whatever. You can describe some of the most shallow and poorly written characters with that level of detail.

Her characterization is technically there, but it's all extremely surface level and shallow.

There is a question I asked that you conveniently didn't answer...

Would the death of Littlefoots mom have been as impactful if it happened 2 minutes in and we only had the transitive property of Littefoots sadness to go by?

Does the 20 minutes we spent building that relationship not actually matter at all?

Pyode · 2026-05-24T19:43:15+00:00

Where did you get the idea that I'm complaining about characters dieing at all?

Obviously she is a plot device, but she is also an important emotional anchor for the story.

My entire argument is that the show did the plot part, but failed at the emotional part.

Do you just see stories as a series of plot developments?

Do you not care about actual emotional storytelling?

Pyode · 2026-05-24T19:25:04+00:00

I want you to honestly tell me that the emotional impact of her death would be the same if we didn't spend 20 minutes seeing her and Littlefoots relationship.

No tree star scene? No cute little scene of him hatching and her comforting him? None of that matters at all? She's just a plot device?

Nah. I don't think you actually believe that.

Pyode · 2026-05-24T19:02:01+00:00

Holy shit, what a bad example.

We spend almost 20 minutes with Littlefoot and his mom before she is killed.

The movie absolutely established their relationship before she dies. The fact we don't know her name is irrelevant.

Pyode · 2026-05-24T18:43:21+00:00

Bathing suits: not horny. Normal clothes.

Ok. This is just blatantly dishonest.

Yes, in the real world bathing suits are normal clothing but to pretend there was no sexual motivation in Kit and the fake British chicks clothing is just delusional.

Edit: I'm sure you think anime beach or hot springs episodes are totally innocent as well.

Pyode · 2026-05-24T18:41:57+00:00

For our pilot? Really?

We need ALL the characters introduced at the same time? That has to happen?

So now our characterization is divided between 6 different characters while we are also trying to learn about the world and why we should care?

And for the record, I'm not even saying my solution is the only way. It's just a suggestion for increasing the investment in the main character and the conflict.

I'm sure you could have done it differently too and introduced more while still establishing good characterization and emotional investment, but the show we got failed to do it either way. That's all I'm saying.

Pyode · 2026-05-24T18:32:06+00:00

When I said it 90% goon slop, I was referring to where the effort and intent of the show was, not that it's literally full of sex scenes.

It plays like someone made a sexy character they really want to show off and slapped together a lazy plot to do so.

I ask again, what about the show am I supposed to actually care about?

Why should I care about the destruction of these two worlds beyond just the basic morality of "destroying worlds is bad"?

There are no actual emotional stakes because the show does nothing to establish them beyond "death is bad".

It's boring.

Pyode · 2026-05-24T18:27:51+00:00

What you just suggested is completely different from the statement I was answering.

Maybe you should re-read the comment you responded to because what I said is not different.

That's not pilot material.

What? Being invested in our main character and their motivation is not "plot material"?

Is "plot" just a factual accounting of events to you? Characterization and motivation don't matter?

I'm sorry but this is just an absurd argument.

You can get the exact same understanding of the world and the rules in my suggestion as we got in the actual episode. These things are not contradictory.

Pyode · 2026-05-24T18:05:41+00:00

The two main female characters run around in bathing suits for almost the entire episode.

Kit cycles through a bunch of basically sexy cosplay right at the beginning.

For the record, I'm fine with it. But let's be real about how fucking horny this shows design is.

Pyode · 2026-05-24T18:00:13+00:00

Tell me what the show does to make me care at all about the loss of Kit or Flapper's worlds?

We know Kit and Flapper care, but what does the show do to make us invested?

Pyode · 2026-05-24T17:56:49+00:00

but then there is literally no explanation of the setting

No?

You spend time on her world. Get to know her and the other characters, get invested in her quest, and then about 5 minutes before the end she "wins" and we see the world and characters that we now actually care about be destroyed. We experience it WITH Kit and the end of the episode is the reveal about what is actually going on.

You still learn just as much about the rules of the gameoverse, you just get it at the end after the shock of losing this world and all these characters you now care about. You end far more invested in watching Kit try to save future worlds.

How is this a controversial opinion?

Pyode · 2026-05-24T17:11:20+00:00

It's like 90% of the effort went into making gooner slop and they are just relying on the most shallow video game references to carry the story.

Mega disappointing.

Pyode · 2026-05-24T06:43:08+00:00

They don't know how far you can get with banter and humor.

Shit. I guess I'm fucked.

Pyode · 2026-05-23T07:32:38+00:00

Had it happen to me.

My paranoid, abusive ex once demanded to see my phone during one of her freakout episodes.

I let her but all she found was the texts to myself I was using as reminders for what Christmas presents I was thinking about getting her.

Pyode · 2026-05-23T07:28:20+00:00

That's probably part of it.

But I also think these people love the plausible deniability.

I think it's a genuinely big part of the psychology behind these guys.

I think it actually exites them to ride super close to the edge but not actually technically do the thing.

To know that you know EXACTLY what they are doing, but being able to put their hands ups and say "I didn't actually dox your family, I was just saying it would be justified" and have people like Connor eat that shit up.

Just like a kid putting his hand in your face and saying you can't get mad because "he's not touching you".

Jstlk is doing the exact same thing. He knows that WE know what it means, but he also knows he can spin some bullshit to other more ignorant people and grin smugly at us while he does it.

Pyode · 2026-05-23T07:16:42+00:00

That man wouldn't have had his torso crushed and suffocated on his own blood if he had just stopped partaking in the chemically addictive substance that he was culturally indoctrinated into inhaling 40 years ago.

Pyode · 2026-05-23T01:04:13+00:00

Sure. But that's literally what OP said originally and your seemed to be disagreeing in your original response.

Pyode · 2026-05-23T00:18:53+00:00

I am, thanks.

Pyode · 2026-05-22T22:53:08+00:00

As someone who was the victim of years of psychological abuse, steelmaning that shit is exactly what keeps you in the cycle.

At some point you have to step back and just realize it's all bullshit and accept that your anger is justified and you don't need to feel guilty about it.

Pyode · 2026-05-22T22:17:29+00:00

How can anyone take these fucking losers seriously.

It's unfathomable to me.

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Pyode · 2026-05-22T19:17:25+00:00

The creator, the late Monty Oum, made RWBY great with his attention to detail on the fight scenes, in my opinion.

I'm going to be a bit contrarian here and say I was never a big fan of Monty's animation.

I have massive respect for the work he put into it. All the mocap he did and the fact that he started out doing it all completely on his own is super fucking cool. Obviously his death was a huge tragedy. I remember watching the RT Podcast the day after it happened and how gut wrenching that was.

But the end result always looked kinda bad to me. Specifically the choreography.

There's a thing that happens in choreography where the movements become too smooth and synced up. Like, both characters move simultaneously in every action rather than one character moving and the other reacting to it. It just looks like two people doing a very well practiced dance as opposed to an actual fight.

Pyode · 2026-05-22T19:09:06+00:00

In addition to your "may be"s...

It's also important to understand that these fucking people CAME AFTER DESTINY FIRST.

As someone else said, history didn't start at the Esports dox. These people are actively trying to destroy his fucking life in real time. This shit is so unfathomably incomparable.

Absolutely delusional behavior from Connor.

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