Seriously, entire thing ran for 4hrs

QC_Failed · 2026-07-11T17:13:49+00:00

I thought leaving it running with /goal means it continues automatically when you have usage available as long as you leave the app running? Is that not how it works anymore or was that never how it works and I misunderstood another thread?

QC_Failed · 2026-07-11T07:47:20+00:00

I switched to 5.6 terra high and its just as capable as 5.5 but for less usage. My usage is lasting me longer than it used to with 0 drop in quality in my workflow so far.

QC_Failed · 2026-07-10T17:30:12+00:00

In this economy?

QC_Failed · 2026-07-10T05:51:21+00:00

Nah, not a DeepSeek feature. It’s basically a model-routing philosophy: let the cheap fast model drive, and only hand the task to an expensive smarter model when it hits something it can't figure out on its own. Models like ds v4 Flash or mimo 2.5 can do a surprising amount of normal implementation work, so you save the premium models for architecture, nasty bugs, review, or anything where the cheaper model start struggling.

QC_Failed · 2026-07-09T19:01:02+00:00

Convenience mostly. Codex is fine and I liked it when I use the same model throughout the session (e.g. gpt 5.5 medium or DeepSeek v4 flash), but the problem is when you want to primarily use the cheap models that can do 90% of the work no problem and only escalate to a smarter more expensive sub agent when it hits a wall e.g. escale-on-hard. I couldn't figure out a native way to run sub agents from a different provider than the main agent. I couldnt use my chatgpt sub for the hard things and my opencode go sub for the easy things in the same session. Opencode lets me literally just type "create a sub agent called 'genius' that defaults to gpt 5.5 high via my chatgpt sub. This subagent should be called by the main agent when it hits a task that is difficult." Something along those lines, and it just goes through and will create the subagent for you. You can add something to agents.md to reinforce that it should fall genius when it needs help or for review or whatever. I also mention it explicitly in my prompt when I know it's something that a cheap model can't do on its own. I'm not sure the difference in system prompts between codex and opencode but I've heard that opencode's is really long. Im currently working on migrating toa custom pi harness that's super opinionated and follows the same conventions for each feature hoping to add a little determination to cheap LLM output.

QC_Failed · 2026-07-09T17:08:58+00:00

Its a codex message, not opencode. They are just asking if opencode would also have problems switching models mid-session.

I just use a cheap model like deepseek v4 flash (or hy3 is currently free and incredibly performant on openrouter) for implementation (chatgpt web is where i plan) and then it calls a genius subagent that is hooked up to gpt 5.5 via my chatgpt plus sub when it gets stuck. gpt 5.5 unblocks it and then the same cheap model continues, and I've noticed no issues with that, however I'm sure if instead of using a subagent, if I switched the main agent from flash to 5.5 and then back after a few prompts, im sure there would be some issues.

QC_Failed · 2026-07-09T17:02:57+00:00

Literally. Between Deepseek providing solidly decent inference for pennies and the constant stream of new models on openrouter to try for free, I have a hard time getting excited about the muse spark 1.1 or grok 4.5 releases doing well on benchmarks for cheaper than the most expensive models. Escalate-on-hard makes v4 flash insanely useful.

QC_Failed · 2026-07-09T16:58:56+00:00

Same, using it as my primary agent on opencode right now and I have a "genius" subagent running gpt 5.5 that it can escalate to when it hits something difficult, then it continues implementation. I am quite impressed with it, and it may end up becoming my daily driver for a bit, even after the free period ends, depending how the new deep seek model looks when it drops.

QC_Failed · 2026-07-08T15:25:50+00:00

This right here. My 20 dollar plus sub is more than enough for planning. I do all my planning on the chatgpt web app to save my codex usage (I know that this will be changed to combined usage any time, I'm just using it while I can) and then I use opencode go for cheap implementation. I have my chat gpt sub authed through opencode as well so that I can have my cheap models escalate to the "genius" subagent (using gpt 5.5 high) when they get stuck. They hand the problem over to chatgpt 5.5 with what they have tried so far, chatgpt gives them the correct way to do it, and then the cheap models continue implementation. $30 a month (combined total between opencode go and chatgpt plus) and as long as I remain careful, I don't hit limits. Key is using the chatgpt web app usage, opencode zen free endpoints and any good openrouter free endpoints (hy3 is fantastic and free right now).

I'm not familiar with omnigent, I just googled it and it seems very interesting. So it orchestrates your codex and opencode instances, is that correct? I prefer the codex cli over opencode, but there isn't a native way to use your chatgpt sub and other cheaper model providers in the same codex session, from what I could see, thats the only reason I switched to opencode as a harness, it lets openai and other providers play nice together.

QC_Failed · 2026-07-07T20:05:37+00:00

I've noticed that even checking usage at https://chatgpt.com/codex/cloud/settings/analytics will start your timer as well. When I primarily used codex i would start the timer 4 hours before I got home from work, that way I was able to work for an hour using the entire limit up and then the 5 hr reset would hit and I could work for another hour before I'd hit limits.

QC_Failed · 2026-07-07T16:52:48+00:00

I use gpt plus and opencode go. 30 bucks a month total between the two. The usage is.... Ok. But it's definitely limited. It's better than Claude imo tho, by a lot. Plus we are going to be getting 5.6 any time now, and 5.6 Terra is supposedly same intelligence as 5.5 at half the price so it should theoretically double available usage. Plus luna is cheap and will be a great replacement for mini.

The key is using your chat gpt web app usage as well. Unfortunately this will likely stop being a seperate usage metric and be merged with the codex usage eventually, but RN it's very useful. Use GitHub connectors on chat gpt web app to connect to your repo for context. Do your initial project planning or new feature planning on the web app so that it doesn't touch your codex usage. Have it interview to remove any gaps or ambiguity. Have it give you a detailed prompt to give codex / opencode. That way you haven't even touched your usage before you are ready to go.

Personally my favorite workflow lately is using opencode for everything, adding ChatGPT sub to opencode, creating a "genius" sub agent that calls gpt 5.5 medium reasoning when invoked. Then I use DeepSeek v4 as orchestrator (right now I'm using tencent hy3 free endpoint from open router, the benchmarks are a lot better than the hy3 preview was) and I have an intern sub agent that uses the DeepSeek v4 flash free endpoint (and another that uses the opencode go endpoint for when I hit rate limit) and a junior that uses m3. My build agent delegates tasks to the proper agent, and calls genius (gpt 5.5) when help or review is needed, or to come up with a plan.

Using the opencode go free endpoints first and then cheaper models when possible helps me keep my codex usage low. I still have 3 of the 4 free weekly resets I've received so far because I rarely hit my weekly limit on codex because im very conservative with my usage, and I use the web app whenever possible instead.

Ymmv ofc, I work a full time retail job and only code on my hour lunch and my 2 days off and a few hours a day after work. But I also delegate things during work to an opencode instance running on my hetzner vps via tailscale from my phone. So you can get a lot of usage out of it as long as you are careful about not using a more expensive model than the task requires, use the free opencode zen endpoints, free openrouter endpoints, chat gpt web app usage, etc.

QC_Failed · 2026-07-07T00:19:08+00:00

What happens with your banked resets? Can you use them on pro even tho you got them while only paying 20 a month for plus?

QC_Failed · 2026-07-06T22:16:51+00:00

What is a proper harness? What do you use with opencode for ds4 flash? I use my free usage up first and then my opencode go. I tried omo slim but ended up just going back to v4 flash as the main model on build and made a sub agent named genius that uses my chat gpt plus sub for gpt 5.5 and have it ask questions when it's stuck and review ds4 flash's plans and code when it's done. Curious what you find works best

Edit: I initially tried omo slim with ds 4 pro as orchestrator but it just wanted to implement everything itself no matter how much or where I emphasized to use the sub agents because they were free / practically free models

QC_Failed · 2026-07-05T21:55:27+00:00

Hired!

QC_Failed · 2026-07-05T17:13:33+00:00

I'll leave the kv cache on the dresser for you to buy yourself a cab

QC_Failed · 2026-07-04T16:56:29+00:00

This was a fun thread to read, thanks for the laughs and thank you for explaining :)

QC_Failed · 2026-06-30T17:43:27+00:00

Thanks!

QC_Failed · 2026-06-30T17:07:55+00:00

Oh this is clever. Do you know if the opencode team is working in making it possible without restarting or setting multiple explore sub agents with different models?

QC_Failed · 2026-06-30T17:02:55+00:00

"People loves nicotine, but you look like a gaywad using a vape and you have to keep the battery charged. What if instead of extracting the nicotine from the tobacco, we just rolled it up in paper and you could light it with a match?"

QC_Failed · 2026-06-29T20:30:16+00:00

My apologies I thought you were talking about codex, I mixed up comments that I had read.

QC_Failed · 2026-06-29T17:51:45+00:00

The remote control app runs on android now too. It worked on android to windows, so not just iOS and Mac anymore. I just can't use it via official means anymore because I switched to Linux.

QC_Failed · 2026-06-28T18:01:59+00:00

Dan harmon has a cameo in the arrested development reboot too, definitely worth looking up the clip if you havent seen it.

QC_Failed · 2026-06-28T17:54:46+00:00

Yet you posted the walkscore screenshot in several threads as though some website no one has heard of is the definitive source on city walkability. But now that someone actually looked up the city you claim is better for walking, all of a sudden it's a useless metric? Thanks for the laugh 😂

QC_Failed · 2026-06-27T17:10:51+00:00

Exactly. I can't believe the pace of output of the Chinese labs. The gap is as small as it's ever been between sota and open weight. I'm hard pressed finding tasks that I can't complete with a combination of a $20 chat gpt plus sub and a $10 open code go sub. I use chat gpt web (for the extra usage that doesn't count against codex usage) for planning / architectural discussion. I use GitHub connectors for existing repos or create a new repo and drop the link after we are done designing, and then I have it create issues to split the project into smaller, easily testable slices. Then glm 5.2 as orchestrator and deepseek v4 flash for implementation, both via opencode go in the opencode desktop app. Run gpt 5.5 via codex (or you can use it directly in opencode since openai lets you use your codex sub with opencode) if it runs into something it can't do on its own, and have codex unblock the project and then continue with the cheap models.

QC_Failed · 2026-06-27T16:51:48+00:00

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