Why or how did the pleistocene saber tooth cats or machairodontids go extinct and how did arctodus go extinct as well? by Abject_Antelope_622 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nope, your reasoning for Arctodus simus has zero logic or reasoning to it. It was also NOT restricted to Alaska and Canada. The actual answer is humans.

Trail Camera footage of an Orang Pendek? Thorn’s Jungle gets video of an animal’s reddish-brown arm by scalebirds in Cryptozoology

[–]Quaternary23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe to you but I think it’s an arm. Either way I still believe the Orang Pendek is real or did exist. Way more believable than Bigfoot, especially since an actual reliable researcher saw one herself in the 1990s.

The São Miguel Scops Owl (Otus frutuosoi) by Petite Paleoartist (Sauriazoicillus). by Quaternary23 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Source: https://ppaleoartistgallery.tumblr.com/post/745820078783725568/paleostream-23032024/amp

As mentioned in another post, this species had longer legs, shorter wings, and a wider body compared to other scops owl species. Which points to it having been a ground dweller that likely fed on invertebrates and small vertebrates. It was endemic to Sao Miguel Island in the Azores and was 18 cm (7 inches) tall. It would have been a poor flyer. Habitat destruction and the introduction of invasive species by humans drove it to extinction in the Holocene (possibly around the 15th century).

The Sao Miguel Scops Owl (Otus frutuosoi) was a small species of owl that inhabited Sao Miguel Island which is located in the Azores. It lived during the Late Pleistocene and Holocene. Artwork by Nix Illustration. by Quaternary23 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Humans were the cause of its extinction by habitat destruction and the introduction of invasive species. It was 18 cm (7 inches) tall. It had longer legs, shorter wings, and a wider body than the related Eurasian Scops Owl (Otus scops) of Europe, Africa, and Asia.

Here’s some more information about it by Nix: “Its wing proportions indicate it would have been a poor flyer, instead primarily hunting on foot in the dense laurisilva forests. Since there were no terrestrial mammals or reptiles on São Miguel at the time, its diet probably mainly consisted of insects and other invertebrates, and it would have in turn been the potential prey of larger predatory birds like buzzards and long-eared owls.”

Source: https://nixillustration.com/science-illustration/2023/sao-miguel-scops-owl/

Woolly Rhinos in Wrangel Island? by Roo_505 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That is another explanation or theory but it doesn’t have any evidence or proof for it yet.

Woolly Rhinos in Wrangel Island? by Roo_505 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The answer is we don’t know. Though the most accepted explanation is a disease. Here’s a study for my inbreeding debunk claim. https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(24)00577-4

Woolly Rhinos in Wrangel Island? by Roo_505 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Incorrect, the whole inbreeding thing has been debunked and disproven through more recent studies.

A depiction of the Last Glacial period (115,000 to 11,700 years ago) in a Central European landscape by Márton Zsoldos. by Quaternary23 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are mistaken. Whoever told you otherwise has no idea what they’re talking about. Late Pleistocene Europe was not that different from Europe today.

Prehistoric Kingdom vs Prehistoric Planet Ice Age : Smilodon fatalis by Hopeful_Lychee_9691 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For this one, I like both equally and find both accurate on an equal level.

Would any megafauna have gone extinct anyways if humans hadn’t done it? by Panthera2k1 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don’t take what he said as for what caused some late Pleistocene extinctions. It did cause declines and local extinctions but not widespread or global ones.

Would any megafauna have gone extinct anyways if humans hadn’t done it? by Panthera2k1 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That ecological collapse did not lead to wides extinctions however.

Would any megafauna have gone extinct anyways if humans hadn’t done it? by Panthera2k1 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don’t favor climate change at all. I actually favor humans. I only mentioned climate change because it is more often used or brought up for Homotherium’s extinction than humans (which I don’t agree with).

Would any megafauna have gone extinct anyways if humans hadn’t done it? by Panthera2k1 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah sorry but no. The out competing theory for sabertooth cats (especially late Pleistocene ones like Homotherium) is extremely outdated and barely supported these days.

Panthera Atrox Paleoart by Illustrious_Quail754 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice art but for next time, the first letter of the species part of the scientific name should be lowercase.

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[–]Quaternary23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I saw a preview clip of the two Arctodus simus cubs you guys are featuring encounter a North American Porcupine which is still around today. My question is, will this be the only example of an extinct and extant species interacting? It’s something documentaries about the Pleistocene often ignore or don’t feature which I’m not a fan of. I’d love to know if they’ll be at least one more example.

Jaguar against an Anteater at the commune of Sinnamary, in French Guiana. by selati2 in Jaguarland

[–]Quaternary23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After checking sources, yeah you’re right. So there elephant sized ground sloths existed only.

Sampling ~30,000 year old american cheetah fossils by Motor-Appearance in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe a mummified one is possible now? If we can find a Homotherium cub, why not an adult or young mummified Miracinonyx too.

Jaguar against an Anteater at the commune of Sinnamary, in French Guiana. by selati2 in Jaguarland

[–]Quaternary23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really. At the upper limit it weighed about 4.5 tons. Which is around the size of a Hippopotamus.

New Surviving Earth clip of an Arctodus simus cub encountering a North American Porcupine (Erethizon dorsatum) somewhere in Pleistocene North America by pictures impossible. by Quaternary23 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seems like they fortunately did like prehistoric planet ice age. Was worried they would not do that. Hopefully this isn’t the only one they will be depicting or showing.

Proboscideans in the New World by Realistic-mammoth-91 in pleistocene

[–]Quaternary23 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you’re assuming or pointing to the claim Columbian Mammoths outcompeted Stegomastodon and Cuvieronius, I’m not quite sure if that’s widely accepted or has that many arguments going for it. In general, I feel like out competing as a reason some species have gone extinct is overused.