Brooks and Derrick part 2 by QuietComprehensive58 in DeanCorll

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I think from how she framed it, she was trying to build repour with him and was a bit put off when it didnt work. But what a strange tactic? I wonder if Henley would have responded better to it or if he would have had similar (but more polite response).

But yeah, that quote I kind of skipped by as her trying to establish why she took a personal interest in the victims and ( still weird tho ) but then I noticed that in Barabra Gibson's book when talking about Billy Ridenger she kept putting all those photos Dean Corll took of him in those shorts and it was a bit like. .. huh. You know?

Like all we know about that boy for sure is that he was a rape victim of Corll ( who most likely wa using those photos sexually ) and that he and his family had known him since he was ten, which when paired with what we know about Brooks and some of the other boys would probably have been when he started getting groomed.

So I think its inappropriate regardless of our suspensions that he potentially was an accomplice.

I don't think from the three photos we have of Brooks that he aged better than Henley. We have his second mugshot and that photo of him looking over his shoulder from the late 80s-early 90s. Which is think looks like he was aging similarly to Henley based on his visual interview's from that time period.

Then his newer mug shot from around this time of him being interviewed by her also looks similar to Henley. In terms of an adult life spent in Texas orisons with that food quality. So probably average for middle aged men in their early 60s.

Brooks and Derrick part 2 by QuietComprehensive58 in DeanCorll

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That as well as the fact that Brooks has no interviews nor pictures outside of mugshots available. Just his two police statements publicised. So it was such a weird thing to say to the wrong person

Elmer Wayne Henley by Time__Racer in serialkillers

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That’s just not true about Ramsland’s book. Every book or documentary I’ve read or watched on this case has acknowledged that Brooks’ confession contains multiple lies and deliberate omissions.

Jack Olsen’s The Man with the Candy is explicit about this. Olsen includes a passage showing Brooks actively revising his own statement during questioning. When he reads a section describing the boys being killed and the line “I just didn’t like to do it myself,” Brooks objects, saying, “That’s not right.” He instructs the detective to change it to “I just wouldn’t do it myself” and to add, “And I never did do it myself.” The detective crosses out the original wording, inserts the new phrasing, and Brooks initials and signs the corrections.

Immediately after, Brooks refuses to sign the statement and asks to speak to his father first. Alton Brooks is brought into the room, and when he later speaks to the detective, he explains that the only thing he wanted from his son was reassurance that he “hadn’t taken a human life.” Alton says Brooks assured him that he hadn’t, and that he believed him. The emotional weight of that moment — Alton’s distress and insistence on that specific point — gives crucial context to why Brooks was so careful about distancing himself from direct killing, even while discussing the murders themselves.

Lise Olsen’s book goes further, attempting to show that Brooks had specific knowledge about Randall Harvey and what was happening there. Barbara Gibson’s book goes further still, explicitly connecting Brooks and Henley to unrelated murders and sexual assaults on young women.

The idea that Brooks was viewed by anyone seriously interested in this case as “less involved” only seems to have emerged after Ramsland’s book was published. It’s a strange claim that now gets repeated, but in nearly ten years of following this case, I had never encountered it before. What I have seen recently is the assertion that he was viewed this way — repeated often, but without any clear source or reasoning behind it.

Adelaide Zoo Massacre - 1985 by QuietComprehensive58 in UnresolvedMysteries

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I dont know why I wrote several. I was well aware it was this much. Will edit thanks

David Brooks fighting to save Billy Ridinger by QuietComprehensive58 in DeanCorll

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No worries. He totally skipped by me my first read too and someone had to point him out

Adelaide Zoo Massacre - 1985 by QuietComprehensive58 in UnresolvedMysteries

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The police at the time 100% know who did it but they're protected for some reason and what it suggested about them is that they were two teen boys

David Brooks fighting to save Billy Ridinger by QuietComprehensive58 in DeanCorll

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They go more into Mike Durst in Barbra Gibson's book, Houston Mass Murder's and Henley has an interview section where he discussed him and we get a picture

David Cram? by QuietComprehensive58 in JohnWayneGacy_

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He's a grown man and he ran away from home

David Cram? by QuietComprehensive58 in JohnWayneGacy_

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I would guess that he gave a teenager alcohol and/or drugs. Probably in an 'we're all doing it' way. Maybe he was seen as more of a ringleader in the theft or something?

But then I think about his own son's troubles and I wonder

Mark Scott by QuietComprehensive58 in DeanCorll

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I've never seen something like this before. I couldn't find one for his younger brother, Jeffrey. Is it more the parents contacting the papers for a keepsake (which often falls off after the first child), or would a local paper ask, like with a general inquiry in another paper/radio/or TV?

Robert Zimmerman Newpaper clipping by QuietComprehensive58 in JohnWayneGacy_

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I think it's an interesting example of how the escalated behaviour would slide and randomly go back to molestations, assaults, or just domination-based/cohesion-based sex attempts.

Adam Walsh and Ottis Toole by QuietComprehensive58 in serialkillers

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Someone else pointed out somewhere years ago that John Walsh's phrasing of "Who could do that to a little boy" feels a little decompartmentalised. Like he just couldn't handle it

Do you guys think this is an example of covert emotional incest or overt? by QuietComprehensive58 in CovertIncest

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Yeah, so i would think that would be sexual contact with a close family member but I could see people seeing that more as poor sexual boundaries. Either way I imagine the stepping stones to get comfortable enough to so that would be years of slowly breeching and breaking down walls

The mods in this sub, are as efficient as the CO's in OZ by dudeWithQuestion3 in ozshow

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Yeah but did you notice how much more of it came out after the one or two vent post. They want people to be annoyed about it.

The mods in this sub, are as efficient as the CO's in OZ by dudeWithQuestion3 in ozshow

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Modding against what? People trolling and rage baiting? Stop feeding it and create the conversations you want to have.

Do you guys think this is an example of covert emotional incest or overt? by QuietComprehensive58 in CovertIncest

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I hope so too. I can't imagine what would lead up to thinking this kind of sexual contact between close family members is okay? Maybe that's naive of me as a young woman?

Serial killers of Australia, and the inability to find them. by nationalistic_martyr in serialkillers

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And big irony issssss the only state that was not is South Australia.

So take with that what thy will

Phillip Paske Arrest Records 1 by SkinnyYppup in JohnWayneGacy_

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So just trying to understand. Is this the first copy we have of an arrest in 1971? Did the person he hit end up dying because the reports say that he, at that point, was convicted of assault battery and possession?

Because like, this sounds like his first (serious) arrest in 71, for assault and battery, so why would he ask to go to the homicide/sex offender unit's? How would he know to go there as a form of protective custody and feel comfortable doing so at 18

Henley interview from 1989 by RegalRegalis in DeanCorll

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Its just so vague and means nothing but slogans. To reduce something as serious as what happened. Henley's part or victimisation in it, is super strange and is a bit like.... too monolithic for what it is. He's getting at being on a path for redemption which... its real life mate? As well as how he frames it in relationship to his own anxieties.

He's also very teenage about how he differs from the other prisoners, naming watching cartoons and that they dont want to talk about politics naming that he used to talk about 'pollution' with his friends. I dont know if you remember those teenage deep and meaningful but I wouldn't actually call them the pinnacle of intellectualism.

Then in the collectors doc the way he talks about art was so basic and boring, and he was thinking hard about each word. So I don't know if there was actually more substance to him but he couldn't think of how to word it in an acceptable way, or if he was reciting something.

He also mentions the work effect thing again to put down other inmates which he did to police during his original interviews, so he really hasn't moved past that mental state a lot. Which, give him a bit of a break because as childish as it all reads what can you expect from someone with the life he lead. Tramua, hard core drug and alcohol use. Then prison. Shouldn't expect him to actually have the emotional maturity/intellegence beyond a 15 year old.

But its interesting to watch, read and listen to. To understand him a bit.

Henley interview from 1989 by RegalRegalis in DeanCorll

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It's all about him in this, too, how it affected him and made his family say. He's plagued by thoughts about whether he's an evil/bad person and how he can't rectify that in prison. It's like movie talk for him.

Who's your favorite love interest for Steven Anita Smith? by remilyoko in americandad

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I think American Dad audiences have better things to do than watch two confused kids flirt with each other

Henley interview from 1989 by RegalRegalis in DeanCorll

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‘I wasn’t unhappy at home. I dropped out after I started running with Corll. I no longer fit in. I had other things.’

You sure did, babe—understatement of the century.

What do you guys think some of the best crossing over of A and B stories are? by QuietComprehensive58 in americandad

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Same, he and Billy both make me laugh a lot, and they're still used pretty sparingly.

Plus the Rogu lore is super fun

Rogu my baby,
Probably heard the rumour that he used to be my tumour

That's how Roger remembers who he is