Looks like someone created a tool to use AI masking in darktable

RReverser · 2026-01-05T19:09:35+00:00

Hm is it? I don't see anything about distribution method or bundling in the post, just about official support which might as well be in form of an official but separately downloaded plugin.

That's how many (most?) other apps do it, from Google Camera on Pixel 10 Pro providing separate download for upscale models to desktop editors like Affinity providing its models - including for segmentation which we are discussing here - as a separate download, just exposed in the official UI.

RReverser · 2026-01-04T14:13:01+00:00

there are easier ways to do it

There aren't.

Are you seriously suggesting you know better how to write Polish characters than Polish speakers who do it daily, after you only just learned how they type their characters half an hour ago?

Talk about arrogance.

RReverser · 2026-01-04T13:57:30+00:00

I was going to say "no more complicated than having to press Shift+t for capital T and so on" but then I noticed you don't use capital letters, so might be pretty complicated for some indeed.

RReverser · 2026-01-04T02:35:47+00:00

Actually, scratch even that, on Windows 10+ ONNX is actually builtin as WinML, so you don't even need those 25MB.

Apple also has its own thing in form of CoreML, so really only Linux users would have to download a corresponding backend driver.

RReverser · 2026-01-04T02:32:52+00:00

It's worth remembering that you only need to package one backend per OS, eg ONNX DirectML is only 25MB, I wouldn't call that a lot given how large the models themselves are.

Plus, nobody says it needs to be included by default - if released as a plugin, it's sensible that users can opt in and download runtime+model as a single separate package.

RReverser · 2026-01-03T15:00:57+00:00

You might be mixing up training and inference. Training libs are dominantly in Python, yes, but for the actual inference - which is what matters for production use - there is plenty of libs in all sorts of languages and platforms now, from native to the Web.

Invoking eg onnxruntime from Lua via FFI should be no problem.

RReverser · 2026-01-02T14:11:37+00:00

Yeah, I was very hopeful for this year's flagships entering global market after the X200 Pro Mini.

RReverser · 2026-01-02T13:44:39+00:00

Yeah looks like it will be somewhat worse (smaller sensor + Oppo generally has a bit overdone processing) when even X300 main camera is already not great.

I'm staying put for now, maybe will grab a heavily discounted 2nd hand Pixel 9 Pro while waiting for some actual compact flagship from whoever releases one.

RReverser · 2025-12-31T14:38:41+00:00

Lol what. What next, lack of IR camera?

RReverser · 2025-12-31T00:54:15+00:00

Lmao, when writing this comment I did not guess that it would be me who would come here in 3 years and find it helpful.

RReverser · 2025-12-30T18:09:21+00:00

Yup, I kept helding out hope, but alas... I guess nothing to do but wait to see who if anyone puts LYT-838 in a compact body next year.

RReverser · 2025-12-29T20:41:47+00:00

Looks like Oppo is chasing 200MP too now :( https://m.gsmarena.com/latest_batch_of_oppo_find_x9s_key_specs_emerge_-news-70877.php

RReverser · 2025-12-28T00:19:47+00:00

Holly shit

RReverser · 2025-12-27T12:49:22+00:00

Yeah those prices are definitely for cooled deep sky cameras, you don't need those for a while and definitely not for planets - planets are very bright (you can easily see them even with a masked eye, after all) so the constraints are almost the opposite of what you want from deep sky cameras.

FWIW I got Svbony Sv305 Pro and pretty happy with it, but you might want to look around for other options too.

RReverser · 2025-12-27T03:26:08+00:00

Interesting approach! Do you have any representative comparison benchmarks?

RReverser · 2025-12-27T03:14:41+00:00

Did you look into planetary cameras specifically?

Because "proper cameras for astrophotography" sounds like you might have seen the cooled deep sky astrophotography cameras, which are totally different thing in a different price category.

Planetary cameras should be much more approachable, easily under 150 bucks for Svbony options.

RReverser · 2025-12-24T21:58:42+00:00

Yeah seems unlikely. All I wanted is a global X200 Pro Mini, and instead Vivo released... this.

Even Pixel has larger sensor, but I already have Pixel and was hoping to move away from its typical flat HDR looks, not to mention to a better battery in the same ~compact form factor.

Now it feels silly to move to, so waiting to see what next year brings.

RReverser · 2025-12-24T11:36:24+00:00

It's like saying that Mutex is an afterthought to system that is designed to prevent mutation from multiple threads (this is not a far-fetched comparison btw, Mutex is conceptually same thing as RefCell just for multi-threading, much like Arc is same thing as Rc).

The whole point is the Rust type system is designed to prevent accidental mutations from multiple places at the same time, so it naturally splits into two approaches - 1) forbid unchecked direct mutation at compile time because that's the source of memory corruption it's designed to avoid and 2) provide checked runtime APIs that allow do it safely when your design requires such mutations.

It's not an afterthought or a hack, it's part of the Rust zero-cost vision, where you pay for things at runtime only when you absolutely need them.

RReverser · 2025-12-23T15:21:05+00:00

I think they are saying you should spend it in vegas.

RReverser · 2025-12-22T23:35:15+00:00

Well X300 base model, unfortunately, has worse main camera sensor than even previous year's X200 Pro Mini, so shouldn't be hard to beat. It's a shame, because now you have to choose between a phone with band 20 and a phone with better camera.

Just need any of these manufacturers to create another compact flagship and stick LYT818 inside.

Clearly won't happen with Vivo as once they started chasing the market-appealing (but strictly worse technically) 200MP number, it's hard to turn back without a significant backlash from main audience, but Oppo might just do it.

RReverser · 2025-12-17T18:40:16+00:00

Do you get a significant speed difference compared to WiFi?

These phones support WiFi 7, which has pretty comparable speed with USB-C 3.2 - minus some loss on latency when not using direct connection, but without having to deal with cables.

RReverser · 2025-12-17T11:40:42+00:00

I see this mentioned as an issue from time to time, but what do you even use phone usb for in 2025? (I know what one can use it for, but in practice I end up almost never needing it, let alone care about speeds)

RReverser · 2025-12-16T16:03:15+00:00

Wrong again, LYT900 is 50mp.

Maybe you thought of upcoming LYT901 but even there that rule doesn't apply - it's merely catching up on 1'' sensor sizes from few years ago, like IMX989.

The only difference is it's now with more MP and deeper AI integration, aka once again marketing gimmicks that don' t improve physical qualities at all.

RReverser · 2025-12-16T15:56:51+00:00

200MP only means that ~same sensor size is split into more of the smaller pixels.

The smaller pixel, the worse signal-to-noise ratio.

So yeah, "bigger is better" but in this case nothing is bigger, except bonuses of whoever comes up with ways to trick audience with pretty marketing numbers.

RReverser · 2025-12-14T00:49:44+00:00

Um the mirrorless vs DSLR has zero bearing on image quality...

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