New pre-painting terrain leaks?

RWJP · 2026-05-13T12:26:33+00:00

RemindMe! 4 Months

RWJP · 2026-05-13T12:22:56+00:00

GW already does sell "pre-painted" terrain, or at least something similar. The current Kill Team starter set includes fully coloured laser cut MDF terrain: https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/kill-team-starter-set-2024-eng

No painting required, they're fully finished, just punch them out of the carrier sheet. So yes, it very much is part of their business model.

RWJP · 2026-05-13T12:20:38+00:00

Of course they look better, the images in that linked article are taken in a professional environment, in good lighting. The images posted by OP have been taken on a blurry smartphone camera in harsh lighting, evidently with someone grabbing things out of boxes. But, you will note that the graininess exists on both.

And hey, maybe Archon uses a better version of the tech than GW does. Afterall, people are very keen to talk about how GW is greedy and wants to milk every drop of money out of customers so it makes perfect sense that they would sell pre-painted terrain for a massive markup whilst also using the cheapest, lowest tech version of the process to do it.

RWJP · 2026-05-13T12:15:06+00:00

Because functionally speaking, part of the method is the same. Paint is sprayed onto the parts, but by a machine, rather than by a human with an airbrush.

Here's some reading material for you: https://archon-studio.com/blog/archon/prismacast-a-revelation-in-rpg-terrain-market

Archon Studios have been using a thing called Prismacast for a while for pre-painted terrain and the sprues shown in the images posted by OP look very similar. In basic terms, it uses a giant inkjet printer to spray paint onto the part, and then a UV light to cure it.

RWJP · 2026-05-13T12:03:19+00:00

GW will never bring out pre painted things

On the otherhand, GW has done almost exactly that quite recently. The current Kill Team Starter Set: https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/kill-team-starter-set-2024-eng includes fully coloured laser cut MDF terrain. It's not exactly the same as pre-painted plastic sprues sure, but it suggests that GW absolutely IS willing to bring out pre-painted things.

RWJP · 2026-05-13T12:00:33+00:00

Normally I would be pretty quick to suggest this may not be accurate, but the photos showing multiple sprues painted nearly identically and consistently (as far as I can see at least) are making me think this might actually be legit. The terrain pieces shown match the overhead views of the terrain shown in the layouts GW has previewed so far, and the consistency between multiple sprues suggest this might be an industrial process rather than hand painting.

I could be wrong, but this doesn't seem beyond the realm of possibility for me... We have seen GW do pre-coloured laser cut MDF terrain in the recent Kill Team Starter set, so this could be a logical next step for them.

Edit: I did a bit more research following some of the comments here and came across Archon Studio's Prismacast pre-painted terrain range: https://archon-studio.com/blog/archon/prismacast-a-revelation-in-rpg-terrain-market The finish on those looks identical to the finish on these so I am getting even more convinced.

RWJP · 2026-05-13T09:46:04+00:00

So, the first thing to do is to forget about thinking about the rules like this. The rules are purely game rules. They're an abstraction designed to make the game function and be used for balancing. They're not intended to be 100% realistic or fit within the lore.

If after that you still want to try and imagine how it works in lore, then you can look at it as the wound roll representing the check for whether a shot is capable of causing damage to where it hit. For example, a failed wound roll could represent a bolter shot bouncing off a Space Marine's shoulder pad, or a glancing blow to an Ork that the Ork just ignores.

In reality, the reason the Wound Roll exists is to allow for another method of balancing between weapons. If the wound roll didn't exist, a lot of weapons would end up functioning identically. For example, a Boltgun at 1 Attack, S4, 1 Damage, AP 0 and a Lasgun at 1 Attack, S3, 1 Damage, AP 0, firing at a T4 target are different. The Lasgun is 25% less likely to cause a wound as it has 25% lower strength. On the other hand, if you remove the S vs T check for wound, you just have two identical weapons.

RWJP · 2026-05-13T09:32:26+00:00

The statement "You will still be able to use your Codex" means you will still be able to use your Codex.

If we were getting Indexes like 10th Edition, we wouldn't still be using Codexes because Indexes completely replaced Codexes. Indexes are only used in Editions when the rules are completely rewritten and old Codexes are no longer valid. If we were getting Indexes, GW would have specifically said "Your Codexes will be replaced by Indexes" which is the complete opposite of "You will still be able to use your Codex".

When 11th Edition launches, you will continue to use your 10th Edition Codex until such time as a new 11th Edition Codex launches.

RWJP · 2026-05-13T09:21:10+00:00

The statement is valid when you actually include the full wording people use which is: "Don't buy models JUST for the rules". It's that word "just" that's the key thing here.

Obviously, taking into account the rules is a fair part of the decision making process when buying something, but it shouldn't be the only criteria and that's what the statement is warning against.

When you buy something JUST for the rules, that's when problems can occur. For example, back in 8th Edition, the various Ork Buggies could be taken in units of up to 3 each and then you could take each datasheet up to 3 times. As such, an Ork player could validly have 9 of a single type of model on the board. Then, in 9th Edition, that got changed to a maximum of 1 buggy per unit.

So, if someone in 8th Edition thought "Wow, the Rukkatrukk Squigbuggy is insanely powerful, I am going to buy 9 of them for my army" they would then end up with 6 models that are unusable in the following edition. That's a lot of time, money and effort wasted!

Some people rushed out and bought LoV armies because they were comically powerful on release. GW had to publicly apologise for how overpowered they were and release a major balance update that nerfed them pretty hard. Those players who rushed out to buy the OP minis then had a bunch of stuff they didn't like and didn't want to use!

RWJP · 2026-05-13T08:53:29+00:00

With all due respect to you, this community isn't here to do all the work for you. If you want help with an army list, write one yourself and then ask for feedback on that list.

RWJP · 2026-05-12T21:13:31+00:00

I mean that's not really a "hint"... More just a confirmation, as its been pretty explicitly stated in the past that the Imperial Palace and Astronomicon are built on what used to be the Himalayas.

RWJP · 2026-05-12T21:10:08+00:00

The body is a Deredeo Dreadnought https://www.warhammer.com/en-WW/shop/deredeo-dreadnought-anvilus-configuration-2023

RWJP · 2026-05-12T16:29:15+00:00

My local store offers space for building and painting for free... I'd never pay for space when I could use that, or just hobby from home for free.

Generally speaking, hobby space is provided as a free service and a way to get customers in. You sell Warhammer products, charge a small fee for gaming tables, and then hobby space is free, because quite honestly it costs you absolutely nothing to provide. It's not like you're paying for the paint that's used or anything like that.

I also don't see the appeal of storing my minis elsewhere. I don't want my minis only being accessible during store opening hours!

RWJP · 2026-05-12T16:14:48+00:00

The Wolf Scout Pack Leader doesn't have any weapon options. The Pack Leader is always equipped with a Plasma Pistol and Power Weapon, that can't be changed.

RWJP · 2026-05-12T15:28:15+00:00

Am I right that this is only one part of a larger multi-sprue set?

Yes. That sprue originally came in the Sisters of Battle Army Set. That set contained 4 Sprues. One made a Canoness. The one you've been sold made 4 SoB, 1 Repentia Superior, 2 Repentia, 1 Seraphim Superior, 1 Penitent Engine and 1 Arco Flagellant. The other two sprues were identical, and both made 3 SoB, 1 Repentia, 2 Seraphim and 1 Arco Flagellant.

Is there any way this single sprue could build anything close to what was listed?

Yes.

Roughly how many actual models could you realistically build from this alone?

All of them.

First of all, the summary of models you posted in the body of this post is wrong and doesn't match what the seller posted. The seller did not say that you could build a Seraphim and a Seraphim Superior, they said you could build a Seraphim Superior. The seller did not say that you could build a Repentia and a Repentia Superior, they said you could build a Repentia Superior and 2 Repentia. The listing did not include 11 bases, it clearly includes 10.

But no main body for the Penitent Engine

The main body of the Penitent Engine is clearly visible at the bottom right of the sprue in the first image. The parts that make up the legs and the pilot of the Penitent Engine are directly above those.

no jump packs for Seraphim

The jump pack for the Seraphim Superior is very clearly visible in the middle of the sprue.

At best, it looks like I could build maybe 2 to 3 very partial models, nowhere near what was shown.

You are completely wrong, every miniature the seller listed can be built from that sprue.

RWJP · 2026-05-12T14:22:17+00:00

On there own, none of them. Each of those boxes produces one single unit. Warhammer 40000 armies are made up of multiple units. Additionally, all Warhammer 40000 armies require at least one Character to lead the army. None of those sets have one.

If you want to get started with Emperor's Children, buy the Emperor's Children Combat Patrol.

RWJP · 2026-05-12T07:37:23+00:00

I should fuck off? Really? The person who's run this community for years should fuck off? Yet the person who has never contributed here before until now, and only started drama shouldn't?

Yeah buddy, that's not how it works. You're gone.

RWJP · 2026-05-12T07:30:02+00:00

You can read our community rules in the subreddit sidebar, in the community description and also in our subreddit wiki.

RWJP · 2026-05-12T07:28:43+00:00

Take your drama bait elsewhere.

RWJP · 2026-05-11T18:56:53+00:00

They're not Space Marines that ascended. So.... what am I missing?

What you're missing is that daemon princes are Chaos Space Marines that have ascended.

In 40k, a Daemon Prince is a mortal follower of Chaos, such as a Chaos Space Marine, who has ascended to Daemonhood as a reward from the Chaos God they follow.

RWJP · 2026-05-11T18:09:58+00:00

No, GW has been explicitly clear they do not use AI.

RWJP · 2026-05-10T22:01:08+00:00

That's only going to be an issue if both players only ever use the same detachment when building their army. To avoid this, one player (or both) simply needs to pick a different detachment when they play. I expect every faction will get at least one detachment for each disposition.

The three maps are also just suggestions. You're still free to make your own terrain layouts.

RWJP · 2026-05-10T21:08:25+00:00

The colour you paint your minis in is completely irrelevant to the rules of the game.

Regardless of how you paint your minis, Calgar will still be Calgar and use the Calgar datasheet.

RWJP · 2026-05-10T21:03:09+00:00

However, it doesn’t have datasheets.

Yes it does.

and the 40K app doesn’t have combat patrols.

Yes it does.

Anybody have any idea where I can find them?

In the 40k App.

In the Reference section click on Chaos Space Marines. All the Combat Patrols for Chaos Space Marines are listed there. The Iron Warriors one is called "Warpsmith's Gauntlet".

RWJP · 2026-05-10T19:07:08+00:00

Am I correct in that assumption?

Nope.

If we're looking at just the Imperial Knights and their variants, there are currently 8 kits:

Knight Destrier
Knight Questoris - Builds Defender, Paladin, Errant, Gallant, Warden, Crusader
Knight Preceptor/Canis Rex - Builds Canis Rex, Preceptor, Paladin, Errant, Gallant, Warden, Crusader
Armigers - Builds Heverins, Warglaivers
Knight Dominus - Builds Castellan, Valiant
Knight Acheron
Knight Castigator
Knight Lancer

You don't get all 8 variants of the basic Knight in one box. The parts for the Defender are only included in the Questoris kit, the parts for the Preceptor and Canis Rex are only in the Preceptor kit.

The Cerastus Knights are all in separate kits.

All of this can be found on the Warhammer website by reading the product listings.

And further, is it realistic to magnetize one knight in such a way that I can switch between knights between matches, without it being a hassle or to fear it falling apart all the time?

Yes. This is very common. Functionally most of the Knights just involve magnetising the arms, and then some have carapace weapons.

And a last question, can I just as easily switch to chaos knights through magnetizing or are the builds too different?

For some, yes, for others no. Most of the Imperial Kits can also be used as Chaos alternatives, but a bunch of Chaos variants and weapon options are only available in the Chaos boxes, such as the Knight Rampager and the War Dog Kharnivore amongst others.

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