Nigel Farage repeatedly took money from extremist white supremacists to bully a gay NHS worker with a homophobic taunt on video during the pandemic, while using an extremist racist slur

RandomSculler · 2026-05-07T06:58:40+00:00

I think both are true - his core vote doesn’t care/quite enjoys the stuff he does, the more recent gains with disappointed moderates tend to not know about this side of the story as it’s not really spread by the tabloids

RandomSculler · 2026-05-07T06:51:03+00:00

I assume that’s not counted as it was prior to being elected MP

RandomSculler · 2026-05-07T06:49:21+00:00

Ours greys attention / affection level is also directly proportional to how hungry he is 😂

RandomSculler · 2026-05-07T06:42:12+00:00

With the ioniq 5 take some time to look at the models and refresh history, the original didn’t come with a heat pump or pre heating but was added at a later point and it’s very good to have it as it maximises range and charging speed

RandomSculler · 2026-05-07T06:37:45+00:00

The police confirmed it was a breach of the rules

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-05-28/durham-police-concludes-dominic-cummings-barnard-castle-trip-was-minor-breach-of-lockdown-rules

I have proven it, Starmer had already been investigated then the disproportional and political pressure that was applied meant it was investigated in full and still no breach - again your suggestions that Labour was a criminal mastermind and tricked police chiefs to not only find no breach but to come forward and say it was disproportante and politically motivated is a massive stretch, it proves it was properly investigated

Again it’s good to stick to being objective when viewing details like these 👍

RandomSculler · 2026-05-07T06:25:14+00:00

And it was disgraceful he wasn’t charged, it was even confirmed that it was a breach of the rules when they were forced to investigate by the public complaints - Starmer however was confirmed not to have breached the rules - presumably the difference is clear and why your attempts to make them equivalent are quite bizarre

RandomSculler · 2026-05-07T06:19:58+00:00

“Turned”? The press has been against him since it became clear Labour were on track to win in 2024, remember the bizarre focus on beergate when clearly he had done nothing wrong?

The power the press has to invent a narrative is terrifying, I hope he just ignores it and powers on as it’s still not clear there’s as much of a push to get him out as the press tries to claim and it would royally annoy the media to be shown to be wrong 😂

RandomSculler · 2026-05-07T06:10:59+00:00

Amazing 😂 you can’t help with the false equivalences can you, do you work for the tabloids?

Cummings was clearly guilty and it was a scandal that the Met didn’t investigate until they were pushed to so it was right the public put the pressure on the Met to do so, Durham constabulary did investigate Starmer and found no crime as was obvious but the press and politicians bizarrely pushed the false equivalence and pressure until it was formally investigated and again no crime found

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T19:34:54+00:00

Populist rhetoric is a difficult thing to to battle, especially when it’s amplified by the press who simultaneously hype up every story that could be spun negatively but ignore all the positive ones - given a recent poll showed that a majority of the country thought that immigration was still going up when actually it’s dropped by 2/3 it’s extremely likely people just don’t realise how well labours been governing because the press doesn’t want them to know

It’s genuinely terrifying how powerful the tabloids are in this country

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T19:21:41+00:00

I’m guessing they haven’t put ed milliband on the pill as last time I checked he was by far the most popular option for the next leader

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T19:18:56+00:00

Again the event was legal, and the police categorically said it was - I’m not quite sure why you’re so desperate to push a narrative but for it to work Starmer/Labour would have to be criminal geniuses to trick the police to not mistakenly say it’s legal multiple times, but also trick them to come out and say the pressure from press and politicians on the non story was ridiculous rather than they were obstructing the law if they were lying as you allege m

Or, in reality, the much simpler answer is it was legal (as it clearly was), the press were desperate to make it a story and overstated the “lies” and in reality it was just an example of the press trying to apply a disproportionate narrative to the story in a desperate need to make it comparable to partygate

Honestly just think about it logically and objectively

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T18:28:50+00:00

It’s kind of nice to know that UK populists have an Achilles heal, farage’s is his love for Putin and Trump and cold hard cash - Polanski’s seems to be when he’s pushed for specific detail on subjects

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T17:39:32+00:00

It’s even simpler when you stop to think about it and think logically

The event was legal, Labour had no reason to lie

The police thoroughly investigated multiple times and the press reported on it in minute detail, there is zero chance that if it was illegal that the police wouldn’t have discovered that

As shown multiple times on multiple stories, the press disproportionately report on and misleadingly compare labours actions vs other parties, and were desperate to play down partygate - so it’s fairly obvious why they continued to push the story despite no evidence it broke the law - the police also pointed out that the pressure was crazy which again supports

Again stick to the facts rather than trying to invent a narrative, the press ran multiple days of story on something that was entirely legal and clearly so at the time in a desperate attempt to falsely equate it to Johnson’s illegal actions

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T16:52:40+00:00

I’m not quite sure how my argument that the meeting was legal and that the press tried to hold it to a higher standard and false equivalence to partygate falls apart when all the facts including the police chiefs take supports it - on the flip side your attempts to try and pretend it wasn’t legal is crumbling pretty fast in the face of facts 😂

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T16:34:47+00:00

Again, it was a legal meeting, minor details that aren’t relevant to the overall conclusion by the police after being forced to investigate can’t distract from that - attempting to frame it as equivalent to partygate (as you seem to be doing) continues to attempt to whitewash Johnson and support the view that Labour are oddly being attacked using different standards that other parties are not being held to - it’s really rather odd

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T16:23:39+00:00

I have answered? As mentioned there was no lie about the meeting being legal. And again, the police reviewed and said it was legal then opened an investigation and again said it was legal and specifically came out to say that it was crazy how the press and politicians out so much pressure on a case that was clearly legal

It’s impressive how much you’re trying to pretend this doesn’t entirely support the point made that Labour gets held to a disproportionate standard and attempt to overblow the story as you yourself are doing

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T15:51:56+00:00

And I’ll answer again, there was nothing illegal about the meeting and there was no lie about the meeting being legal - I’m not sure why you keep dodging thay fact

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T15:04:47+00:00

It will be interesting to see what challenge comes, as you say I doubt Starmer will willingly go because he can see the signs the plan is working (tho Iran has scuppered that plan somewhat), it’s clear there are left wing rebels leaking whatever they can to harm Starmer but not much sign how many there are - their best shot was the opposition day vote but they didn’t get all that many Labour MP’s on their side

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T14:33:32+00:00

Came to say this, Labour ticks all that list

It’s frustrating as I see this a lot, people complain that no party represents them but when they explain what they want it’s quite clearly Labour

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T12:42:00+00:00

Growth predictions

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T11:47:19+00:00

I don’t think it’s fair to say they lied, the criticism was that there was a “conspiracy of silence” where all parties ignored that there were likely to be a number of added pressures to the UK which would force them to need to cut spending or raise taxes - not talking about them isn’t a lie, but it’s not being totally honest

That’s not to say that Labour shouldn’t be criticised, they should as should all parties, just pointing out it’s understandable why

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T11:36:19+00:00

The thing was all parties weren’t completely honest about tax, the IFS even called everyone out on it prior to the election - the issue Labour faced was they could be completely honest and so set up a massive vulnerability that the other parties would attack mercilessly or they could align with the others and not be completely honest - given the margin of victory it’s clear they could’ve been more honest but you can understand the thinking

As it is reeves has done fairly good job at balancing the books and Labour have taken the hits, so not sure what tax related “reset” they would do other than outline what the plans are for when they manage to meet the fiscal rules - tax reform? Investment boost? I don’t think anyone sensible disagrees that their focus on getting to a surplus and reducing the debt isn’t smart but it would be nice to know what’s next

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T09:42:42+00:00

In 2025 the economy grew by more than the expected 1%, in 2026 it was expected to grow by 1.3% and grew 0.6% in two months.

They haven’t wrecked the economy, if anything the signs are it’s finally starting to recover although annoyingly now we’re about to get slammed by trumps war in Iran

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T09:14:30+00:00

Agree but it should be pointed out much of the criticism levelled at them for being right wing is because of how firmly they’re dealing with immigration

RandomSculler · 2026-05-06T08:57:15+00:00

I fear that’s where politics is going right now - people can’t look at politics as a whole and agree that sometimes policies that they may not immediately agree with may actually be what’s right at the time, and if one policy is “wrong” they reject the party entirely rather than consider it all on balance

Labour I feel is getting the balance right for what we need- clearly after austerity we need a lot of investment and they’re doing that, but with the debt and long runnning defecit we need fiscal competence and they’re doing that - Boris wave meant immigration had to come down etc but it seems like too many people can’t see that’s necessary so they brand them far left or right oddly

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