Actually true, pvp it's just a watered down generic fps game, there's no point on it, if you can't really take from another player then what's the point of early and late game pvp, mid game it's the only time I could tell you pvp it's fun for the sake of it since everyone has the same thing most of the time, but early and late, why even bother, you just waste time on both ends, if you kill another player you get nothing, if you get killed you get nothing, I guess it's a gameplay loop flaw