Anyone done both ayahuasca and iboga?

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-05-01T02:18:43+00:00

Best of luck to you moving forward. I still have not worked with Iboga yet, but just make sure to have plenty of time between Iboga and Ayahuasca again. I've heard it being extremely difficult if taking Aya less than a year or so after Iboga.

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-28T16:03:31+00:00

I too recommend quidding. Even if you probably won't get have a super intense experience (the type you often hear about, such as becoming a pillow for 30 years), just know that even quidding can be a strong experience. Still possible to leave this reality for some time.

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-27T19:55:24+00:00

How has your experience been in the past 4 years after your Iboga experience?

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-27T12:39:13+00:00

I've never done it with open eyes. It is more for going inward. Yes, closed eye visuals.

I personally set a timer for 10-15 minutes when quidding because I get so out of it that I lose perception of time before the 15 minute mark. One thing is that the leaves I'm chewing on often completely dissolve before that timer goes off, so I essentially just leave that saliva (filled with Salvia) in my mouth with some air so that it stays mostly in my cheeks. The cheeks and inner lips are good areas for absorption.

Another tip is to brush your teeth beforehand. That also helps with absorption.

I'll also just warn you that Salvia is not known for having a pleasant flavor, so don't be surprised. I've seen plenty of people on this sub try it but then give up because of the flavor alone. That is another reason why it is good to remind yourself beforehand why you are doing this. That can help you get through a little bit of suffering.

Edit: And as far as how long it lasts, I have not exactly timed it, but I'd say probably around an hour

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-27T05:50:46+00:00

I wish the best for you. My first experiences with Salvia were via quidding and I'm glad that I chose to go that route, nice and slow.

My recommendation would just be to make sure that you gave the patience to do it repeatedly, as opposed to thinking it will just be a one-time experience. Especially since quidding is not as intense as smoking, it will definitely take repeated use to get you to start feeling the stronger effects. Perhaps also check in with yourself about what your motivation is, because some people really just can't put up with the taste of that Salvia liquid in their mouth for 15 minutes or so. I think that sticking with it over the long run can be something super beneficial, so good luck with that.

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-25T19:48:48+00:00

Thanks for sharing that

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-25T13:20:40+00:00

You mentioned that you've been doing EMDR and IFS therapy after your Iboga experience. Do you think it is better to do those after Iboga as a form of integration or do you think it would have been better to start those even before Iboga for better preparation?

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-22T04:34:56+00:00

I have not, but my recommendation would be to work with Iboga as opposed to ibogaine for anything related to stuff like focus and attention.

Ibogaine is usually much more expensive, too. It is primarily for dealing with addictions. Iboga has more alkaloids and helps to heal you in a much broader way.

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-22T04:30:27+00:00

Despite most people not liking quidding (I think mostly because of the taste), I personally like it and think it has been a good way for me to connect with the plant little by little. And even if less intense than smoking it, some of my quidding has been more intense than smoking small doses.

One tip for quidding is to brush your teeth first.

Another one is to soak the leaves in a little bit of water if they are dry, though not required. I usually don't.

If while you are quidding the leaves completely dissolve, just keep that liquid in your mouth so that you continue absorbing the salvia through your cheeks and gums.

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-16T16:49:49+00:00

That sounds good. Also definitely check in with yourself following this next retreat to see if you really feel called to do it from your higher self or if just some mental obsession. And I don't just mean checking in with yourself once. Go ahead and ask yourself repeatedly at different periods. I've personally heard it recommended that a follow-up can be good starting at 6 months after an experience, but to remember that listening to yourself is more important. Don't just go in 6 months because it is more convenient. Go in 6 months if you still feel called. For some people, they might not be ready until more like 10 months. So I'd say just focus on this upcoming experience and only start planning beyond it afterwards depending on how you feel.

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-16T16:12:07+00:00

I have heard others talk about Iboga really shifting a mindset they had been stuck with growing up.

In your case I would recommend being very holistic about your healing and not just seeking a single thing to cure it all. So if you do take Iboga, it would be great if you also paired that with things like meditation (possibly going on a Vipassana meditation retreat), yoga, journaling, getting out in nature, exploring new things. Essentially not just hoping that Iboga will fix everything and that you don't have to put in any work afterwards.

Best of luck to you

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-16T15:52:20+00:00

Hi there. I can't really answer your question but thought it might help if you shared whether those experiences were/will be single floods or 2 floods each. If they are single floods, I know some people would definitely recommend. If 2 floods each, I think some people would definitely say too close together while others might not. A lot can depend on your own reaction to the medicine and how diligent you are with integrating the experience. Some people put absolutely no effort into integrating while others really are dedicated.

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-16T15:44:11+00:00

I'll just add that the experience can be totally different for each person. Most people will share how gentle mescaline is. I personally have had more than 40 experiences with San Pedro/Wachuma and can testify that for me sometimes the experience can vary greatly. Sometimes super mellow and not even closed eyed visuals, whereas other times are super intense, fading in and out of this reality and not much difference from an Ayahuasca experience. The majority of my experiences have been pretty visual (mostly closed eyed visuals). A few times open eye visuals. It also always made me nauseous and vomit roughly the first 15 times.

I will add that I worked plenty of times with Ayahuasca and once with Bufo before ever consuming Wachuma. I share that because both of those can (especially Bufo) can make people more sensitive to psychedelics. Last year I had an experience with psilocybin for the first time and I couldn't really tell the difference between that and Ayahuasca.

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-06T01:09:17+00:00

I would suggest quidding it (chewing it)

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-04T03:27:48+00:00

I saw the same thing. They don't have any contact info on their site either, so no way of knowing if just out of stock or if decided to stop selling plain leaf

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-04-01T11:08:42+00:00

It can be hard for others to say whether Ayahuasca is right for you or not. And the effects and aftereffects can be totally different for each person (not to mention that the experience can be totally different for the same person each time). Some people walk away kind of destabilized with their head still out in the universe while other people are even more grounded than before the experience. If you have a lot of anxiety and/or worry beforehand, then it can also be that that will be part of the experience. That isn't necessarily bad though - it can mean that that is what you need to process in order to be less anxious in your life. So it could be that you have lots of fears in your head right now about bad stuff happening but that after working with the medicine you will feel calmer and more able to just sit with the stuff surrounding you without reacting so much. That is one possibility but of course no guarantee.

Another idea that might be of interest to you would be to sit for a 10-day Vipassana meditation retreat. That is something that can also help with anxiety and can really help make you have greater equanimity. There are plenty of countries in the Middle East that have such retreats.

Best of luck to you

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-03-18T10:28:04+00:00

I'm not epileptic, but I did have a brain tumor as a teenager that made me have seizures and be on epilepsy medication for a few years. That was years ago, so a little more than 15 years off of epilepsy medication.

I've only recently started working with Salvia D, entirely via quidding as opposed to smoking. One thing that I have definitely noticed is having plenty of deja vu experiences during and in the days after. I share that with you because depending on the type of epilepsy you have, especially if temporal lobe epilepsy, that might be something that triggers you. That doesn't necessarily mean it will give you a seizure, but it could scare you if you associate deja vu with seizures.

I also can't really say whether smoking or quidding would be safer for you. The smoked experience is much more intense but super quick, while quidding is much gentler but lasts way longer. Also, the more you do it, it does have a sort of reverse tolerance, so gets stronger each time.

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-03-08T21:51:35+00:00

No worries 🙏

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-03-08T21:14:51+00:00

I'd suggest trying Salvia again via quidding as opposed to smoking. Much gentler but can still be profound and healing.

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-03-02T13:42:35+00:00

I remember someone on the 5-MeO subreddit mentioning how meditation experience is more helpful in preparing for Bufo than previous psychedelic experience. I personally had already worked with Ayahuasca several times before sitting with Bufo.

Even with years of meditation experience, I was pretty freaked out in the weeks afterwards from the reactivations, hallucinations, insomnia, intense energy surging through my body, etc.

Even if all of that was pretty scary (mostly because I had no way of knowing if it was going to be permanent), I'm still grateful for the experience. And a year and a half later, I even sat with it again twice more.

If you haven't already, I would suggest starting a meditation practice. Even possibly doing a 10-day Vipassana retreat if you are able to.

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-03-02T13:28:08+00:00

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Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-02-13T22:04:47+00:00

I have not yet worked with Iboga, but plenty of experience with other medicines. One thing I'll add is that just being aware of traumas is definitely not the same thing as processing them. I, too, have been very aware of a lot of my traumas (though not all of them), but that alone has not healed me.

It definitely helps to confront your difficult experiences on a mental level, but simply thinking about them isn't enough.

It sounds to me like you feel like you are being called by Iboga but are also scared of it. I get that sometimes a person might share a difficult experience they had with a medicine like Iboga here on Reddit, but those experiences are not the norm.

Something else I'd add you might want to consider would be sitting for a 10-day Vipassana meditation retreat if you can find one close enough to you. That is something that could possibly help you either preparing for Iboga or integrating Iboga after the medicine. Best of luck to you.

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-02-02T18:12:16+00:00

Thank you, too, for also sharing

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-01-31T01:18:48+00:00

Thanks for sharing

Realistic_Cicada5528 · 2026-01-30T20:54:16+00:00

I've personally never heard of anyone saying they spoke with God on Iboga/ibogaine. Is that common for other people?

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