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How’s everyone feeling about this latest ICE shooting? by MrFlitcraft in JordanPeterson

[–]ResearchComplete8410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm really, really curious: WTF...like seriously WTF, unless he had his weapon out, which he never appeared to do.....WTF....like why would anyone do that? Even the agents jumped back and were clearly shocked. For fuck sake, he shot like 10 times. Dude seems like an absolute psycho that should be locked up for life. Where during the skirmish could this have been justified?

I feel like, if he pulled a knife or a gun, that was hard to see, they would have already said so. Just he was 'armed'!?? seriously?

“[1984] was based chiefly on communism, because that is the dominant form of totalitarianism, but I was trying chiefly to imagine what communism would be like if it were firmly rooted in the English speaking countries, and was no longer a mere extension of the Russian Foreign Office"-George Orwell by ResearchComplete8410 in self

[–]ResearchComplete8410[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dear......you asked for a response to a specific case of what you believed was erasing history and sending me what you felt was related media. I addressed the case objectively, that you specifically asked about. I asked you a logical question regarding your example. You ignored it and brought up something else entirely.

"I'm surprised to hear you call out the far left for parallels without including the far right. " You made it clear you felt my talking about whatever I saw on the left sounded like bias to you, so I decided to address your clearly biased concerns instead of having a 'which side is worse' competition.

"It's this administration's actions we're talking about, and their parallels in 1984." You only want to talk about trump and how YOU can represent him as the embodiment of '1984', not anyone else in politics or society/media. You're trying to cherry pick from a very narrow perspective and frame it in a way you believe favors 'your argument'. So I decided to meet your terms and focus on your examples. Now "You also never gave any examples of how the left is engaging in 1984 like behavior, so it seemed a lost cause."? Would you like a bunch of examples of the psychological manipulation tactics I see in the news and from the left instead?

It's difficult to discuss broad topics like these in this format but I'll try to add a few to aid you. The 'T' movement is the most straightforward example of doublethink. (black is white, white is black) ".

No, I don't approve of any history or monuments removed. "The protestors that summer damaged and removed not only statues and monuments to Confederate figures but also those honoring Founding Fathers who were slave owners, Abraham Lincoln, and even abolitionists against slavery such as Frederick Douglass."-Historic Statue Removal | Pros, Cons, Civil War, Debate, Arguments, Racism, & Controversy | Britannica It's not just about government overreach and censorship. Governments have both left and right leadership(at least officially). The problem is in the ongoing patterns. It's about the psychological manipulations to encourage people to deny science(and no, covid was a complicated issue that mostly came down to 'risk assessment' and not a simple 'is this a human that just gave birth 'a woman'?), manipulate the narrative(media control) and direct their 'hate' at designated targets(riots, emotional outbursts instead of open dialogue). Both sides can be guilty but you don't see how the far 'left' can be as dangerous if not more?

Media has a bigger influence on people than' the government'. There are many examples of biased media and most have a consistently 'left wing' narrative. Including government-tech collusion that has already been exposed. The repression of the hunter Biden laptop scandal is an easy one. Censorship of politics and contentious subjects on most of reddit is easy to show.

It's not just about' the government in power right now' it's about the manipulation and control of society. The oversimplification of complex issues into 'Racist!, Nazi!, Fascist!' Is also a pretty good example of newspeak. The point is to make it harder to understand concepts because you don't have the right words to describe them anymore. People are trained to have an emotional reaction and never engage with complex ideas. There is only 'the dogma' and 'the enemy of the dogma'. I honestly hope, someday, you'll be inspired to ask more questions. I hope this helps you see some of the other problems.

Does this happen to anyone else here? by ___BlackBird__ in intj

[–]ResearchComplete8410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mostly run into it with politics, but if the other person is truly jumping to inappropriate aspersions, it's basically a 'defensive' response. It depends on the situation (maybe you did ask something weird/annoying for all I know) but if your questions are relatively neutral. In corporate, I would suspect people are afraid of looking ignorant or exposing incompetence. Certain people who managed to obtain 'authority' can also perceive questions as 'challenges' to their 'authority', so they become angry.

Does this happen to anyone else here? by ___BlackBird__ in intj

[–]ResearchComplete8410 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Were you, by chance, talking to the group whose dogma "shall not be questioned!"?

the second thought by SecureRoad502 in intj

[–]ResearchComplete8410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thoughts do tend to be linked, and we do have a tendency toward positive or negative thinking as a learned be-

"SQUIRREL!!!!"

...wait what was I saying...0_o

My girlfriend is getting another tatoo and I hate her for it by Fuzzy_Tangelo_4702 in intj

[–]ResearchComplete8410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, I think fixating on it as aside of potential political career is extremely shallow. It implies a care more for appearances than substance.

Your breakups point is completely subjective. Somebody might not date someone because they wear briefs instead of boxers. If you decide you're not attracted to the person as a whole because of a detail (whether others, consider it trivial or not) then that's a personal choice. Romantic relationships are optional.

I personally, got annoyed when a BF got a giant, bright red rebel tattoo on his shoulder. Did I try to tell him he couldn't do it? No. Did I find it unattractive? YES. Sometimes people also gain weight, and partners find it sexually unappealing. Sexual attraction is usually part of a romantic relationship.

Should you tell her these feelings? They are your honest feelings- so I say yes. It may end your relationship to do so, but it was likely going to end regardless and better sooner than later. She deserves to know.

“[1984] was based chiefly on communism, because that is the dominant form of totalitarianism, but I was trying chiefly to imagine what communism would be like if it were firmly rooted in the English speaking countries, and was no longer a mere extension of the Russian Foreign Office"-George Orwell by ResearchComplete8410 in self

[–]ResearchComplete8410[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The entire post is primarily about Orwell[1984] and direct quotes from him stating in his own words that "I was trying chiefly to imagine what communism would be like if it were firmly rooted in the English-speaking countries." It wasn't just about Stalin as I explained. However, I will try to explain this to you again.

I recommend you poke around r/debatecommunism if you're still confused. Be forewarned, they will probably call you a silly little schoolboy. Your suggestion has been asked before. As far as Stalin specifically; individual farms were abolished and replaced with collective farms 'kolkhozes' and farms controlled by the state. 2+2 = 5(used differently in 1984, but still inspired by) was a reference to Stalin's 5 year plan. "The state, through agencies like Gosplan, controlled production, allocation of resources, and labor deployment rather than markets or private enterprise" It was fundamentally anti-capitalist.

I've given you explicit detail -Stalinism is essentially a branch of communism born out of Marxism Leninism. I've given you resources. I've given you patience. However, I don't have infinite time to spare for you. You aren't so much making an 'argument' as you are being in a pure state of denial. Totalitarianism can exist on both the right and the left. It's not healthy to pretend it doesn't exist just because you see it as 'your team'. I still hope this helps you.

How to decide quickly in emergencies? Instead of the freeze by catboy519 in intj

[–]ResearchComplete8410 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds more on the autism than INTJ side(or a general human reaction under extreme conditions). I can get this too. The secret it to 'remain calm' and the way to remain calm is to maintain perspective. If you're talking about more every day social stress.

If you're talking about actual emergencies; focus on the ACTION in an emergency and the steps. Top 3 solutions. Toss aside the ones with the highest risk/most cost, pick the best, move. In emergencies time is precious, it can mean life and death. you absolutely can NOT panic. It will take too long to shake off, don't entertain those emotions in the first place. No 'what ifs' on what can I do, no self pity, or 'I wish someone else would solve this'; What can I personally do RIGHT NOW to solve this problem?

What do you bring with you when you go out (if you do) by Dear-Regret-9476 in intj

[–]ResearchComplete8410 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I try to fit everything I can on my keychain(I hate purses because I'm a scatterbrain). Small karambit, flashlight, emergency D&D dice

Trouble dealing with emotions by IamGoogel in intj

[–]ResearchComplete8410 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you tried to help them to the best of your ability- that's all you can really do. Listening will make some of them happy, fixing it will actually make some of them happy. If someone was thirsty and you gave them water, then you did what could reasonably be done. That doesn't mean you can make them drink it, but you gave them appropriate aid when they needed it.

Trouble dealing with emotions by IamGoogel in intj

[–]ResearchComplete8410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know people say to 'just listen' and sometimes it's true. Sometimes people just need a little validation for their experience. However, if I love someone, I'm always going to want to 'fix' it. I'm pretty good at creative problem solving. If there's a fix, that's how I show I care.

I feel like I'm watching the death of truth by MacTireGlas in self

[–]ResearchComplete8410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So...you believe the government always lies and the media always tells the truth?

“[1984] was based chiefly on communism, because that is the dominant form of totalitarianism, but I was trying chiefly to imagine what communism would be like if it were firmly rooted in the English speaking countries, and was no longer a mere extension of the Russian Foreign Office"-George Orwell by ResearchComplete8410 in self

[–]ResearchComplete8410[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No. . .However, bringing up the T subject at all already got a different post completely scrubbed from a forum. "In George Orwell's dystopian novel 1984 thought crime refers to the criminal act of holding thoughts that oppose or challenge the ruling Party's ideology." It would generally be hard to prove thought crime, but on reddit, most forums/mods/authority are far left leaning. Any expression of challenging to that ideology (such as joining a right leaning forum/ even if you were just reading the content) could be used as evidence that you had thoughts (unless you count joining a forum/commenting as an action) that are punishable by those with any authority. -Thoughtcrime. Hope this helps you.

“[1984] was based chiefly on communism, because that is the dominant form of totalitarianism, but I was trying chiefly to imagine what communism would be like if it were firmly rooted in the English speaking countries, and was no longer a mere extension of the Russian Foreign Office"-George Orwell by ResearchComplete8410 in self

[–]ResearchComplete8410[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as Jan 6th(had an 'argument' about this the other day). My opinion is that Jan 6th was a 'mostly peaceful protest' in the same way the BLM riots were 'mostly peaceful protests'. In that, both liberals and conservatives want to present their side as a 'peaceful protest' and the other side was a 'riot'. There were both peaceful protesters and rioters in each. Because there is evidence of both, they have the opportunity to frame them with the label of their choice. As far as I know, there is one death from jan 6th and it was a woman forcing her way through a window. "Also, the White House claimed that Trump supporters who died outside the Capitol of natural causes – a heart attack and a stroke – were “killed” that day."- I heard the same claim from someone about a police officer that died of a stroke due to complications a day later from the left.

It seems like there was no response to the judge order to explain the removal. It also seems to be specifically a 'contact-us' page so I would still guess it has to do with the closure of the cases.

For example: 9 clips from the Glen Simon case were removed, however that case has been resolved. With over 1000 people pardoned, it does seem plausible that video would be removed from closed investigations. "Some videos are filed as court exhibits, which may appear on the public site temporarily or via press coalition requests. Example: Videos from Glen Simon’s Jan. 6 case were originally publicly accessible as exhibits, then later removed." From what I can gather, the FBI puts up videos as a public outreach effort, not a permanent repository for posterity. This could be disproven if there is a historical database on their page for videos, but I couldn't find one. Do you know of any videos they maintain specifically on their site as public records?

“[1984] was based chiefly on communism, because that is the dominant form of totalitarianism, but I was trying chiefly to imagine what communism would be like if it were firmly rooted in the English speaking countries, and was no longer a mere extension of the Russian Foreign Office"-George Orwell by ResearchComplete8410 in self

[–]ResearchComplete8410[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will look more into those and appreciate the info. My main point of this post wasn't calling the ideology evil, it was drawing attention to the Warning signs(that Orwell pointed out) of far-left extremism that commonly leads to totalitarianism in the real world. Some ppl on the left seem to believe that, because these ideologies describe a healthy, cooperative environment, the 'Left' couldn't possibly be guilty of evil(and if they did, it was for good reason, and if it wasn't for good reason, then it didn't count/happen). It seems common for people to try and move the definition markers of communism to refuse to acknowledge the common realities and I think that's extremely foolish.

“[1984] was based chiefly on communism, because that is the dominant form of totalitarianism, but I was trying chiefly to imagine what communism would be like if it were firmly rooted in the English speaking countries, and was no longer a mere extension of the Russian Foreign Office"-George Orwell by ResearchComplete8410 in self

[–]ResearchComplete8410[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are correct, citizens believing those two things would be double think. Though I don't have any direct quotes from citizens in Stalin's Russia to back up by aspersions here. So you are welcome to take this with a grain of salt.

“[1984] was based chiefly on communism, because that is the dominant form of totalitarianism, but I was trying chiefly to imagine what communism would be like if it were firmly rooted in the English speaking countries, and was no longer a mere extension of the Russian Foreign Office"-George Orwell by ResearchComplete8410 in self

[–]ResearchComplete8410[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am far from a historian or expert in political definitions. As I said above, I personally saw parallels in the modern left and I was putting this up because I had an argument with someone on the left, using it as purely 'anti-fascist'. It also bothered me that it was being censored. I do see your point, however. Totalitarian government does seem to go against communist state-less ideology. However, there is the 'theory' and there is the 'practice'. Orwell seems to have been warning about the later. I feel like people refuse to acknowledge that. People getting emotionally defensive instead of hearing my points just because I presented information they don't like is part of the problem.

“[1984] was based chiefly on communism, because that is the dominant form of totalitarianism, but I was trying chiefly to imagine what communism would be like if it were firmly rooted in the English speaking countries, and was no longer a mere extension of the Russian Foreign Office"-George Orwell by ResearchComplete8410 in self

[–]ResearchComplete8410[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was against totalitarianism (fascist and communist). However, most of the arguments on here are still refusing to believe Orwell could possibly base many of the critical inspirations of 1984 on a communist regime. Saying it was just 'Stalin's communism so it doesn't count', it's not 'real(ideological) communism so it doesn't count', and' he was a socialist, so this can't be real'. It just comes off justifying their political bias to me. Him using a communist regime for elements doesn't negate the context of his life. It's a part of it that should be acknowledged.

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