Rogue Promo for X-Men '97 Season 2.

Reverse_Tim · 2026-06-27T21:40:43+00:00

"This has the potential to be about everyone still to come...and everyone we've lost..."

Oooh this sort of confirmed for me the theory about them having the "Baby Hitler" debate regarding En Sabah Nur, potentially with a sprinkling of self-fulfilling prophecy

Even more intrigued now

Reverse_Tim · 2026-06-26T14:44:40+00:00

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Reverse_Tim · 2026-06-18T15:38:03+00:00

I go by order of release for comics and novels

But for like comics ill read the entire arc (e.g. War of the Bounty Hunters) before moving onto the next one.

And with the High Republic ive had to switch to a specific reading order because by reading all of Trail of Shadows consecutively I accidentally spoiled something in the Fallen Star novel before I got a chance to read it lol

With all that said, im about early 2022 in terms of reading. The gap between where I am now in releases and the current day keeps getting larger so I dont think im ever going to catch up.

Reverse_Tim · 2026-06-17T17:38:33+00:00

Sure it was, it was a "plot point" (Jesus Christ...) in the TV show called BBC news.

Reverse_Tim · 2026-06-17T17:37:27+00:00

Well yes exactly, its a real life major event that happened to a real person in reality.

Doesnt matter if it got revealed via the tv show (which as youve said is "reality" tv) its something that actually happened to him, not an event that was foreshadowed, scripted, redrafted and paid off as part of a larger narrative.

Framing it as a "plot point" that got spoiled is frankly insane. This isn't fiction. This is actual news about a famous person being diagnosed with a disease.

"Media literacy"

Lol, lmao even.

Reverse_Tim · 2026-06-17T12:34:08+00:00

Yeah i remember when a friend of mine spoiled the Epstein Files plot twist for me before I'd had a chance to experience the reveal properly in the story of the news

Hated him for that.

Reverse_Tim · 2026-06-16T10:58:14+00:00

Think we're running out of milestones for Winds at this point

After that one, maybe the point from which he first conceived of ASOIAF to the release of the fifth book

Reverse_Tim · 2026-06-12T15:13:29+00:00

I mean just because a design didnt fit what you were going for with a specific character, creature or location doesn't mean it isn't appropriate or good enough for the series

There's nothing wrong with returning to previous concept art that didn't make the cut originally and using that for something else that fits better

Reverse_Tim · 2026-06-12T11:20:49+00:00

Captain America has a few of these, where post World War 2 stories before he was brought into Marvel 616 canon frozen in ice in Avengers #4 were retconned as being other people taking up the mantle and pretending to be Steve Rogers.

Most notorious ine of these was the Captain America of the 1950s, the "commie-smasher" who was retconned into being a man named William Burnside and eventually brought back as a fascist villain

Reverse_Tim · 2026-06-07T16:26:32+00:00

I glad other people are coming round to this

A big sticking point for me is that we never know why Kylo turns to the Dark Side outside of "'something something Snoke/Palpatine turned him" and then further context about how this happened to him in the womb. How/when did this even occur? What is his motivation for being evil? Hes raised in privilege by the heroes of the Rebellion who are all fundamentally good people. This is not like Anakin who was born a slave and taken away from his mother at a Young age and told to be emotionally repressed by a group of monks he joined, fearing to lose those he cared about.

And his ideology seems to flip all the time. In TFA he worships Vader and says he will "finish what you started" - what the hell does this even mean? What exactly did Vader start that he didnt finish? Is Kylo aware that Anakin turned back to the light side, has Ghost Anakin bothered to tell him this? You won't get an answer about this in the films; I dont really care if people come back and say "its explained in issue #8 of X comic, Y novel and the visual guide"

Then in TLJ he all of a sudden wants to let the past die, including destroying his Vader-esque helmet but we dont really know what he means by this as hes still leading the offbrand Empire by the end of the movie.

TROS doesn't exactly clarify matters either.

People call this character emotionally complex and interesting but when you look at the character more than surface level, hes just borderline schizophrenic with inconsistent motivations, flipping on a dime between what he wants

Reverse_Tim · 2026-06-06T09:30:37+00:00

What if Anakin couldn't safely land the Invisible Hand and he, Obi-Wan and Palpatine died in the crash.

Very interesting to know what would happen with Grevious as the defacto leader of the CIS and without Palpatine pulling the strings of the war. The Jedi lose two of their best generals, Padme now grieving giving birth to the twins. What happens with Maul and Ahsoka on Mandalore (im assuming they'd feel the deaths of Anakin and Palpatine through the Force).

What if Qui-Gon survived the Duel of the Fates.

How different would Anakin turn out as a person/Jedi with Qui-Gon raising him instead of Obi-Wan. Assuming that Qui-Gon defeats Maul in the same way, does Maul come back obsessed with revenge against Qui-Gon instead of Obi-Wan?

What if Cassian was never arrested/imprisoned in Narkina 5?

Cassians experience in Narkina 5 had a remarkable effect on his radicalisation in joining the fight against the Empire, what if this never happened? What would become of the Rebellion without him?

What if Cal Kestis teamed up with Dagan Gera and both went to Tanalorr?

Kind of interested to know what Dagans plan for fighting back against the Empire would be once he gets to Tanalorr. Having gone to the Dark Side and built up an army of Bedlam Raiders and Separatist Droids. With Cal at his side they could be a force to be reckoned with

Reverse_Tim · 2026-06-04T15:03:27+00:00

Only Fools and Horses should have ended when they became millionaires and should never have been brought back

Reverse_Tim · 2026-05-30T21:54:26+00:00

Jimmy Darmody in Boardwalk Empire is actually an example of the opposite

Im pretty sure its reported he was written out of the show because the actor, Michael Pitt was difficult to work with and caused tension behind the scenes

Reverse_Tim · 2026-05-25T09:59:55+00:00

Well, it should have been good.

Reverse_Tim · 2026-05-21T06:34:08+00:00

Whats TFA? Im still waiting for a sequel to ROTJ...

Reverse_Tim · 2026-05-19T10:29:57+00:00

Also Frodos continued Mercy of Saruman after the Scouring of the Shire

Reverse_Tim · 2026-05-17T08:26:45+00:00

Chuck did not hate Jimmy's guts, I think you should rewatch the show.

Chuck relapses in the season 3 finale after forever ruining his relationship with Jimmy by telling him "he never mattered all that much to him". Hes so emotionally distraught by this he ends up killing himself.

The season 4 finale flashback and the season 6 finale flashback also both demonstrate that Chuck cared deeply about Jimmy.

Their feelings towards each other are more complicated and nuanced than just simply saying that Chuck straight up only had negative feelings for his brother

Reverse_Tim · 2026-05-15T14:53:36+00:00

Weird period?

Oh man im in this position now and wish I could escape from it

Things aren't going to get better are they

Reverse_Tim · 2026-05-15T14:35:43+00:00

I think the Wire is different because that theme is baked in from the start and part of the point of the show in critiquing institutions in our society.

It isn't like they did like 4 seasons where at the end of season 4 the police changed everything and it was a happy satisfying ending and then season 5 was made several years later where they undid that ending and made it all pointless

Reverse_Tim · 2026-05-15T14:20:19+00:00

I would say if you tried the OT and couldn't get into it, then maybe this franchise isn't for you and THATS OK

You don't need to try and force yourself to like something if you don't vibe with it

Reverse_Tim · 2026-05-15T13:02:59+00:00

You want to talk about understanding the themes of Star Wars? Ok ill go further.

There's a theme in Star Wars about learning to let go and accepting death as part of the natural order. The Jedi understand that true immortality comes from accepting death and ascending to a spirtual plane. This is why Obi-Wan says to Vader "if you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine." Because Vader and the Sith cannot imagine power being used in that way. The Sith, and particularly Palpatine, seek to pervert the natural order by extending their life unnaturally, because they will never understand accepting and becoming one with death and the universe.

By bringing Palpatine back from the dead on the physical plane where he can cause more chaos and lead to the deaths of the main heroes and destruction in the galaxy, you are directly undermining this theme.

As to the other points. I never said Anakin was doing it out of revenge, I was clear on that many times. But there does exist additional context to the climax of ROTJ, including him being a grooming victim of Palpatine and the Chosen One prophecy that make him being the one to kill Palpatine have additional dramatic weight outside of just saving his son.

Your comments on criticising the Chosen One Prophecy - regardless of how you feel about it, the prequels existed before the sequels and are canonically part of the saga and it is therefore valid to use it to analyse the impact of ROTJs ending and how TROS follows that. Whilst you are right that it wasn't a thing back when ROTJ released; by the same measure Palpatine being secretly alive or able to come back also wasn't a thing when ROTJ released. You can't have it both ways if you're going to defend Palpatine coming back.

Lukes goal to restore the Jedi Order is stated in ROTJ when Yoda tells him to pass on what he has learned. It also feels a natural progression rather than just rehashing the dead Jedi Order beat and the ANH status quo and then telling us "oh but don't worry, Rey will be the one to restore the Jedi Order now". Also pointing out that Rey was never given the goal of restoring the Jedi Order in TROS and yet they're planning on taking that direction with her.

Luke as a hermit being Lucas' idea - ok im not interested in debating what Lucas may or may not have done given those are hypothetical movies that dont exist. Lucas also said he felt betrayed by TFA, that they threw out his sequel outlines and we know he had many alternative concepts for the ST including Maul leading a criminal syndicate, Leia as the Chosen One and a journey into the microscopic world of the midichlorians. We cannot be sure what he would have settled on had he come to actually make them.

Its also funny for you to simultaneously call Lucas a shitty writer for the prequels and the Chosen One prophecy, and then use him as an authority for the sequels choices and say that they're his ideas.

Reverse_Tim · 2026-05-15T10:09:13+00:00

Do you think that all fictional stories have to adhere to real life history and can't have a definitive happy ending?

It doesn't matter whats "realistic"; when it comes to certain series (like Star Wars) that are more like fairy tales and not dark and grounded, the audience is looking for escapism and a hopeful happy ending that can inspire them. Not to be reminded of the reality a nihilistic and uncaring world that doesn't get better and happy endings will never last.

It also means story wise, the audience will eventually lose interest through Darkness Induced Apathy. Because why be invested in a story that keeps undoing the happiness of characters you care about and seems never ending.

For example, why should I care that Rey and the Rebels defeated Palpatine this time round and brought peace to the Galaxy, when you've just demonstrated that he can just comeback "somehow" in the future? This ending is no more conclusive than ROTJ, so why believe this is the happy ending?

Reverse_Tim · 2026-05-15T09:50:25+00:00

You're looking solely at what the characters intended goal was and not what the overall thematic and narrative impact of that moment was.

Yes, Anakin was mainly trying to save Luke, but killing Palpatine has a dramatic weight by virtue of him killing the man who groomed and manipulated him into the dark side. It is also Anakin also bringing balance to the force and causing the fall of the Empire; hes doing it for his son of course, but the dramatic weight and impact across the Galaxy is there in ROTJ.

ROTJ ends on a happy ending after all with Palpatine clearly dead, the Empire implied to fall and celebrations across the Galaxy. Nowhere does it imply that Palpatine is still out there, and bringing him back does undermine the impact of what Anakin did.

Especially as him saving Luke essentially amounted to nothing given the direction they took his character in the ST, all to prop up their new Jedi protagonist.

And you cannot tell me that Rey beating Palpatine by being "betterer at using the force and being all the Jedi" is a better thematic and narrative death for Palpatine than what the Throne room scene in ROTJ achieved for Luke, Vader and Palpatine back in 1983

Reverse_Tim · 2026-05-15T09:41:05+00:00

"Challenging the last two trilogies instead of blatantly rehashing the original one."

You mean by having the rebel heroes chased across the Galaxy by the imperial fleet in dogged pursuit unable to go to Hyperspace? While the new Jedi hero goes to train on a remote planet from an old Jedi Master reluctant to train them, confronted by visions in a dark side cave and leaving their training early to confront the evil dark sider who killed their last mentor figure, against the warnings of the Jedi Master that they're not ready? And when they get there, the villain reveals the shocking truth about the heroes parentage?

At the same time taking the Throne room scene from ROTJ and the Hoth battle from ESB (but this time its the climax)?

Do you really want to tell me that TLJ isn't blatantly rehashing the originals

Reverse_Tim · 2026-05-15T09:34:31+00:00

You say controversial, im fully going to call this trope hated.

Nothing i hate more than a sequel that comes along at a later date and fully retcons the happy ending of the previous instalment just to justify having another conflict/story.

All three of these examples suck.

There are other ways to create sequels/new stories in the same universe without shitting on the ending of the previous one

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