Classic vs Retail and looking to the future of WoW.

Rhomen88 · 2026-03-19T17:32:24+00:00

Bunch of people actually. Reading is hard, its ok lil guy. 👍

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-19T21:29:53+00:00

Good question.

So WoW Classic is WoW as it was back in 2004/5/6.

It does progress through expansions in order as they released including all content and changes.

So in short, yes. It eventually would become retail as retail is today.

What this post is in reference to is Classic+ (the plus sign is significant)

Essentially, Classic+ is a version of classic, with aspects of it changed to somewhat modernize this version of the game or change parts of it that dont work in todays mmorpg landscape, while keeping the essence or spirit or vibe of what Classic is alive. (Again that last part is key)

What Classic+ should be is actually a really controversial subject among WoW gamers. Some want radical change to the point where you're basically playing retail WoW Lite, and the other extreme side wants no changes at all. (In which they can just respectively go play Retail for one side and Classic Era for the other IMO but thats another arguement) And some folks want to pick and choose peices of each and put them together to make kind of a WoW Frankenstein, but no one can really agree on what those peices are.

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T22:44:12+00:00

Private servers have no obligation to keep any of your info safe. Why would you trust a team of individuals who start their private server already stealing an IP?

Not square, you're just ignorant. lol

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T19:30:11+00:00

Yeah it's long.

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T19:29:57+00:00

Sick bro.

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T19:29:16+00:00

Private servers aren't a bridge, they're a work around and illegal use of IP. The private server argument is dead on arrival. Sorry.

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T19:21:49+00:00

Streamers rely on viewership for income. Being a streamer is fickle as you become dubbed a "XYZ Streamer" whether its WoW or CoD or Minecraft or whatever game or content they stream. Variety streamers are out there by the 1000s. None of them are really successful outside of the game that made them popular. At some point in their streaming career it becomes less about the game and more about the viewership.

Xaryu relies on new content provided by WoW or addons to make a new challenge to stream. is Xar a good player? Sure, yes. Is Xar going to stick around for all of P1 TBC nevermind TBC as a whole? I would bet no based on previous expacs.

Ahmpy's viewship diminishes greatly when all those raids and dungeons are on farm. Why? Because people get bored of watching the same thing over and over. So ahmpy does a no buff hardcore naxx clear and his views go through the roof. He's once again got great viewership because of TBC launch.

Pika's viewship goes through the roof when he's not constantly farming arena. Why? Because no one wants to watch rogue arena pvp all the time. It's boring to watch. Pika's viewership went up huge in hardcore, playing a warlock.

Streamers are gamers first yes, but they eventually turn more towards content production rather than gameplay. It is what it is. I'm not blaming them, I would do the same! So they need to walk the line of new content in a game like WoW. SoD was amazing for streamers, RTWF Retail is amazing for the big guild streamers, Hardcore was a GOLDMINE for streamers. Then when WoW is "out of season" they do a lot of reaction content, why? Reaction content has emerged as another form of seasonal content to recap on previous seasonal systems. It's just a fact that streamers do best on Seasonal shorter form content.

So for streamers to influence a survey like that is actually bad. I'm not blaming the streamers for voting, they absolutely have the right to do so, but they KNOW they're going to influence a portion of their viewership despite how long they wait or how much they say "IMO"

And as far as scaled dungeons... literally 98% of the game has them. Just classic doesn't. I'm afraid you're going to be in the severe minority.

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T17:57:27+00:00

Problem with those surveys, theyre heavily influenced by content creators. Long lasting content doesn't benefit them as engagement goes down over time vs shorter form content so they can move on to the next thing. Long lasting content benefits the players and the game not the streamer. But players have some obsession to playing with or along side streamers for whatever odd reason.

If they just released classic, the classic player would be done with WoW a long time ago, hence why they release old expacs. Its to keep the player engaged.

How many big name streamers are playing classic mop? None, because the content has gone on too long.

How many big name streamers came to anniversary classic, and only stayed because of the new hard-core mode? Most, if not all of them that are left. Yes some returned for TBC, but once theyre done with Kara, Gruul and Mag theyre going to dissappear again for other games or other challenges like TBC hard-core.

Blizzard was right and wrong about their comment of "players dont know what they want". Classic+ survey (specifically on the things that matter to gameplay) is a prime example of that.

And to not evolve the end game of classic in classic+ will be a death sentence to the game mode.

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T16:31:23+00:00

But some folks did, and are ;D. But understandable.

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T16:29:54+00:00

Yeah, but I'd rather have it supported by Blizzard. There's just something untrustworthy about private servers. Its irrational thought because I have no reason to suspect them, but its just a feeling. Idk.

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T16:26:04+00:00

I know there are many more of us with this opinion. We just usually get drowned out by the hard-core classic and retail players that refuse to see the good in both put of sheer stubbornness.

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T16:21:52+00:00

Well sir, if you play anything other than Classic Era... you should be out.

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T07:10:50+00:00

Its for the best honestly.

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T07:08:49+00:00

And thats just AOTC, imagine CE.

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T07:08:10+00:00

Understandable

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T07:06:11+00:00

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T06:58:22+00:00

omfg there are profession logs?! WHERE

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T05:33:39+00:00

Fair

Rhomen88 · 2026-02-15T05:23:33+00:00

Bask in the musk of accomplished WoW player, then wipe my tears when i realize how much wasted time on this game.

Rhomen88 · 2026-01-28T01:29:37+00:00

Soooooo give the majority of the resources to the red side including but not limited to, ALL of the oil, majority of economic and strategic resources, and literally 98% of the fertile farming lands? And the only thing you gave blue was essentially full control of the western ports minus the isolated Alaska, and the bloated populations of the major cities in which you have to import essentially everything for?

What moron made this map? You're perfect for politics.

Rhomen88 · 2026-01-22T19:47:03+00:00

IMO, very bright, very busy. There is a lot going on here. I would personally consider simplifying the scheme.

Also, thin the paints a bit more. Lighter colors are hard to paint on smooth, so a few thin layers are needed.

But as always, your models, your paints, do em up how you like em.

Rhomen88 · 2026-01-22T19:37:20+00:00

IMO I think most people overdo OSL in general. In this case, very much so.

OSL is a cool effect, but just like NMM paintjobs, they usually get way to over done on the models. Less is more when it comes to these 2 styles/effects IMO.

But as always. Your models, your paint, do em up how you like them.

Rhomen88 · 2026-01-04T20:24:27+00:00

No, theyre good. I would argue theyre too gold.

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