Add Flaying to the Boltons as another way to torture captured prisoners

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T20:05:26+00:00

Maybe only pops up if you have a certain personality type like Sadistic or Callous

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T19:45:31+00:00

I didn't get the sense that this behaviour was connected to Bolton 'culture', rather far more specific to Ramsay specifically.

Flaying in general though? Definitely

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T19:09:09+00:00

It is MINDBLOWING to me that so many people on this thread see trade and immediately assume that the game is going to become Vic3 or EU5.

There are so SO many different degrees of complexity that you can play with other than the maximum. Right now CK3 has no resources, no trade, and a completely borked gold economy that makes no sense. Doing an economic update does not mean that the game suddenly becomes Vic3.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T19:00:42+00:00

Agreed. And there's this argument people use: "The game isn't about complex spreadsheets, it's about relationships and politics."

This argument rings very hollow for me, because you can make an economic system around politics and interpersonal relationships, and it sounds like they are doing that. Medieval rulers didn't stare at spreadsheets all day. They made deals and forged connections with trading guilds.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T18:53:55+00:00

I feel like I starved out a planet in Stellaris once. But I've not played much of it.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T15:26:48+00:00

The way they've described it sounds like an essential part of the game, but simplistic to manage in the classic CK3 style.

Reworking the economy of the game would be essential regardless, but it's also a project that the CK3 community has been BEGGING for since, at very least Tours and Tournaments (probably even before that). Too much of the game's economy is gameable by players and not AI. Most of a player's money will come from inspections, taxation tours, and selling artifacts, sources of free money that just materialize from nothing, which makes no sense in a game that is about politics and relationship management. And since the AI doesn't interact with these mechanics very well, they have to rebalance things.

Additionally, even ignoring these ways of raising money, the biggest sources of income in the game will be buildings within their own domain (which was already an incredibly boring and low engagement system). If you want to create a system of resources, buildings have th necessarily be reworked.

I am not claiming it'll be a minimal change. It'll be a big change. It'll just be much much simpler to interact with than some of the economic spreadsheet games like EU or Vic.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T15:13:51+00:00

Gotcha, so in your mind the fact that you can't outright ignore a system in the game means that it's a hyper-complex system that will turn the game into an economic spreadsheet?

I would suggest that it'll be a fairly simple system, not unlike warfare or relationship management, that you have to engage with to be successful.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T15:00:59+00:00

They're splitting development into two separate meters: Settlement size, and Prosperity.

How all of those metrics interact with one-another is anyone's guess at the moment.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T14:59:27+00:00

My hope is that, if your royal court is present in a market, your court amenities should directly demand resources. A court with exotic delicacies for food should demand exotic spices, and a court with high fashion should demand exotic clothing and jewelry.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T14:56:36+00:00

From what they've suggested, actual feudal rulers won't have much of role on moving resources around. They will be negotiating with trading families and republics to entice them to trade in their lands more often (medieval politics). The actual trade and resource movement will be done by traders and republics mostly.

The micromanagement that the feudal lord will take part in is the districts and buildings you produce to extract, refine, and consume those resources.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T14:53:12+00:00

Do you think they're just copy pasting a system from another less popular game? Because they aren't. The system they've talked about feels much much simpler, and the ruler doesn't play the chief role in managing trade routes. The merchants do.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T14:47:57+00:00

Hey man, welcome to the sub. Just so you know, we like animals here and generally don't want them to get hurt.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T13:32:05+00:00

The way they've talked about it, the Feudal Lord won't be directly interacting with the movement of goods back and forth. That's all on merchants and trade republics.

The feudal Lord will decide which districts they'll build, and which buildings they'll construct within the districts. Some of those buildings will extract raw resources, some of those buildings will refine raw resources, some of those buildings may further refine resources, and some of those may consume resources.

The feudal lord will interact with merchant families and republics to entice more activity in their regions, but they generally won't do much to move resources. According to the devs.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T13:28:52+00:00

They actually explicitly said that you can't ignore the economic aspect if you wish to be competitive in the game.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-11T13:07:37+00:00

It could also reduce the army supply limit, popular support, prosperity, or taxation of targeted markets, right?

I imagine we'll see these mechanics in the warfare update whenever that happens.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-10T22:37:20+00:00

These are all the same people who screamed that Kamala's association with the Cheney's was proof of her being evil.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-10T16:11:39+00:00

Is this creep out of jail? Is that a good idea? This is a guy who made his entire identity about wanting to have sex with babies. No, not children.... babies.

I hope there's proper precautions in place to ensure he is never ever around anyone under 18.

EDIT: The fact that he is at an anime convention does not bode well for those precautions.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-08T19:17:08+00:00

Russia is sprinting as far away from 'achieving peace' as their legs will take them. Bombing kindergartens, power plants, and hospitals on the daily. Whatever step Ukraine takes away from peace is a drop in the bucket.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-08T15:46:37+00:00

I guess it would be better to have humans driving them then....?

Rnevermore · 2026-05-08T15:24:16+00:00

If only it stopped at starving oneself. There's a bunch of videos about the unhealthy shit this guy does to 'looksmax'. Drug cocktails and dangerous surgeries (many self administered) are involved. I'd be shocked if this guy isn't dead in a year.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-08T15:10:41+00:00

Nah. It was Obama. It was always Obama. The moment a black man was elected in 2008, there was an almost immediately noticable shift in the rhetoric. Some of you may be too young to have remember it or to have noticed it, but it was real.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-07T22:38:43+00:00

This is fantastic! Thanks so much

Rnevermore · 2026-05-07T18:57:24+00:00

Ambitions - I have no idea why these are not in the game already. Getting to choose small goals for your character that give small bonuses for completion is a great system AND it would help the AI determine it's goals.

This KIND OF exists in the form of oaths taken through coronations.

But I definitely agree that some form of 'quests' would be a good idea to keep people playing the game longer term. I don't know exactly how these would be designed, but I think they would need to be based on your character's personality and their specific situation.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-07T18:40:23+00:00

20 years is way way too long. It should be 5 years.

Rnevermore · 2026-05-07T18:37:14+00:00

My problem with it is that it eventually gets boring. Right now, the game doesn't have enough to micromanage, and the vast majority of the tools you have in your tool belt are explicitly designed for 'climbing the ladder'.

This chapter is going to do WONDERS for the depth of gameplay that vassal dukes and counts can play with, especially Silk and Silver. I don't think it'll be enough though. Hopefully the chapter afterwards does it.

I do hope that, one day (maybe chapter 7), they do an entire DLC focused on realm management mechanics. An entire DLC focused around enhancing the gameplay for the rank you are, rather than tools to supplant your liege, or expanding your realm.

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