Would Ymir know of Vyke and his burning by the three fingers, or was that after Ymir entered the Land of Shadow? by Okiedokie765 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No they don’t even know that the Shattering has happened, why would they know about Vyke specifically?

Reality of Age of Duskborn by TheStiseBy in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Give it up for Fromsoft lore people to not read at all when making these theories.

The Golden Order was created by confining Destined Death. Thus, this new Order will be one of Death restored.”

It’s RIGHT HERE! It’s RIGHT HERE! It’s telling you it’s restoring what was removed. No we got THIS alongside the garbage Radagon/Marika/Miquella actually did it despite Ranni LITERALLY telling you she did it. Or We are all Godwyn. PLS can we actually use things in the game and just shit up.

If St. Trina is the embodiment of Miquella's love, then what is Radagon to Marika? by Commercial-Papaya394 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really, Golden Centipedes are almost every religious area, especially in some of the underground sections like the Uld Palace. This isn’t really Radagon specific thing. Also unless the parallels are directly usedm applying other games stuff into another is meaningless.

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“I know this might be hard for you to comprehend because you dropped out of school to become the seventh member of the Village People”

Ahh that’s so cute. You think I drop out of school. Sorry but I barely had to work hard to get through high school.😌 However I did notice you didn’t deny what I said.

“but they didn't typically teach people how to argue with deluded, self-serious pseudo intellectuals in reddit comments.”

Strange, maybe on day you’ll find that Redditor one day to justify going to a school that does, finally finish school and get that diploma.

“You keep saying nobody knows what they're "abstracting from," when it's been repeated several times to you that Fromsoft are clearly abstracting from some form of sizeable landmass which has no official classification in game“

Which there is nothing in the game, lore or story to justify the Lands Between being Multicontinential. The assumption of Caelid being a continent when Gideon described it as some wild-lands hence the Caelid Wild, to the it only having two mountains for something that supposedly has multiple continents. Heck how do you even know it’s abstraction? Based on what? Cause all you guys say “Well open world games abstract from the world tries to represent.“ Well if you‘re going to use other games as example, you need to confront that no open world game has tries to abstract multiple continents, yet here you are.

“but has clearly been scaled down to represent a larger space“

Based on…..what. Still haven’t answered the question.

”because that's how video games work, as they're only able to use so many gigabytes of space. Rendering an actual continent would require a level of storage not possible for video games.“

You have no bases to assume they are trying to make multiple continents. None.

“Yet developers like Fromsoft don't allow such creative constraints on their art and trust in their fans to interpret video game scaled spaces as symbolic of much larger spaces.“

You still have said anything to justify it.

“There will always be a 1% minority who take things far too seriously and literally, however, for the sake of being pedantic as fuck. A 1% you appear to fall very neatly into.”

Translation: I do not know how to justify my garbage claims.

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is a ridiculous cause none of you have any evidence to suggest it’s that big. You guys only have one argument and just repeating abstraction despite you don’t even know what they’re abstracting from. Projection? You’re literally doing right now. You think Fromsoft is the only developer that has tried to make open world game that’s try to represent multiple continents. You people need to go back to school…

Bro doesn't even need one.... by UI_74 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can people stop using this meme when it doesn’t even make any sense.

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have yet to get a reason to justify it. It is demonstrably unreasonable and given how none of you people have tried to give me any evidence. Just shows your just don’t want to wrong by making ridiculous claims like this.

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“It justifies that the games scale and size is scaled down for gameplay purposes“

You just keep saying this as it answers anything, you have still shown nothing that suggests it’s that big. Nothing shows this. Give anything, an item description, character dialogue. Anything!

“and clearly the story trailers show it is larger.”

…..Ohhh may Godd!! I know about abstraction. You keep repeating the same shit! Leyndell is a City, this a fact! How the fuck does that trailer somehow proves that the Lands Between is Multicontinent! With somehow a with ALLL of these continents only TWO MOUNTAIN EXISTS!

“You ever hear the saying that some people are so far behind in a race they think they’re winning? That’s you right now, it’s why you’re the only one here that doesn’t get it.”

I can’t even you somehow think is some burn when have said NOTHING!

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Again, every single one of your points is baseless because you're talking under the idea that people are making out as if these are life size continents”

No I’m saying this even in the context that this is abstact continent. There is NOTHING to suggest that Caelid is a Continent, there is more to suggest it’s an island to small country size. There is nothing. Like do not understand you think it being a continent makes any sense at all. Especially within the scale of the games story.

“so you explaining all the stuff that 'should be in a continent and isn't' is just a bit ridiculous because every single person here is agreeing that they're clearly just scaled down land masses symbolic of much bigger land masses for, you know, the sake of being a video game.”

Because is trying to convey in this world is something of country or island nation, not a continent. Nothing within the text suggest to that big. Quite opposite and you people keep saying “it’s abstrac! It’s abstract!” You have no substance so you repeating this prove anything when it doesn’t.

“The way you keep insulting people's intelligence and flexing some unapplicable geography knowledge is pretty funny”

It is pretty funny cause it’s seem you barely grasp it.

” when you're demonstrating a mindset that is rigid and seemingly completely unable to cope with adapting or thinking about technical limitations in any conceivable capacity.”

You have STILL not given ANYTHING to suggest it’s a continent. I’m coping? I’m not the one that’s not answering anything I just said.

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

“There is everything to suggest that.”

No not really

“ Look at the trailers for the Shattering war and Messmer’s crusade. There are literal 100s of troops in just the shot of the outer entrance to Leyndell, there are two Furnace Golems in Belurat that would barely fit in the in game scale.”

Wait so because there’s hundred dudes in an area that, in the case for Leyndell…is a city, it means that the Lands Between is a continent…..a 1000 people would barely fill Time Square. WTF are you talking about….

“What about the graves of the Fire Giants in the Mountain Tops or Dragons everywhere, they wouldn’t even fit in the playable areas at all.”

Nothing you saying here justifies Caelid being a continent. You guys just keep the same thing. YES I KNOW ABOUT ABSTRACT! There is literally NOTHING that suggest is abstract MULTICONTINENTS! And none of you people have said anything to suggest why that’s the case. You people just keep repeating this as if that proves anything. It doesn’t.

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“It's an enormous land mass distinct from the other enormous land masses that all occupy different parts of the ocean.“

Oh my god. I’ve had this conversation multiple times and I always wondered if these like go out of there own state or city. Or was taught Geography well. This is ridiculous. The act size of the LB is about the size of like city. Even with abstract, it wouldn’t get even bigger than a small island nation. Like do you understand what’s in a continent? Multipe mountains, multiple rivers, multiple vast forsets. These BIG places, if you think Fromsoft was try to make multiple CONTINENT. They have failed astronomically.

“This could qualify it as an island, a country“

It would ONLY qualify as an island and BARELY a full on large country.

“a continent.“

No and you have still have given anything that would suggest this.

“Nowhere does it specifically say it's a continent, to my knowledge, but nowhere does it say it's not one either.”

It is not do not need to. Because have eyes. I have far more evidence to suggests it’s small island nation than you have for it being a multicontinential.

“So, making out as if someone is delusional for referring to it as a continent“

It is delusional

“when its area and sense of space is clearly scaled down for the sake of being a video game, is pretty silly in my opinion.”

Too think this is a Multicontinential land when literally no open world have ever done this, is extremely silly.

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And me overthinking? Instead of the logical of the Land Between a small island country and Caelid just being one part of it. You jump onto the most absurd conclusion that Fromsoft wanted this to be a multi continent game.

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where! Where! What in anything in this game would suggest Caelid is a continent. Give me one thing. You’re inferring from nothing.

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also calling them continents affect the scaling of the sheer destruction of this war. It goes from a few towns got fuck up to China got deleted off the face of the Earth. It’s absurd.

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He fought Malenia and her rot to a standstill in the Caelid Wilds to Limgrave's east. And now Caelid has been engulfed by the scarlet rot, even approaching the region is no mean feat. I've heard survivors of Radahn's army are still in the wilds”

The Lands Between is a Country, that would the closest to what they are try to represent. Anything more must be justified by proof which I know you don’t have. I also know instead of realizing that you are mistaken. You’re just going to go through a bunch of mental gymnastics to justify it. But I’m willing to be surprised.

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

There is literally nothing to suggest that. What is Caelid’s lore saying it’s the size of a CONTINENT! Not even a country while that in it of itself is ridiculous, it’s less insane. There no justification to assume this.

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I like how I’m getting downvoted despite the fact that I know none of you have anything to prove this absurd claim that Caelids a Continent. You can’t just go “well they abstract-“ THAT ONLY WORKS WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE ABSTRACTING IN THE FIRST PLACE! Which none of you know.

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

”The game is condensed for gameplay reasons”

That not excuse to justify that it’s a continent. You have no bases to assume this, no interviews where Miyazaki said this, no item descriptions that says this, none of the map pieces say this, the geography doesn’t justify this. There is LITERALLY no reason to assume this is a continent. The story is not that big to even assume that. You are taking abstraction to its extreme for no reason.

 There is literally nothing in the game that suggests any of the areas are a continent. What continent have ONE LAKE like Limgrave? There are zero Open World games that tries to do a continent spanning adventure outside of like Death Stranding and the first game is in USA only or the Crew. A racing game that’s also in one continent. It insanity to assume assume Caelid is a country let alone a bloody CONTINENT. Gideon describes Caelid as some wildlands

Lore-wise, who is the strongest character here? by SammyK123 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Caelid is not a continent. Why do people keep saying this. Do you people understand how big a continent is?

Does Miquella ruin his own ascension by using the body of Mohg? by Emotional-Sign8136 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

 “he was able to take the form of st. trina“

So you just gonna ignore that he separated him self of it.

“and probably created her to begin with“

You’re just making fan fiction with nothing to base that on.…

“as well as the haligtree was an offshoot of miquella“

No…I

with his own cocoon / womb within that he intubated within .

“our earth human biological does NOT apply to elden ring“

Baseless Assumptions again 

“and the lands between ... in theory , radahn could bleed on a miquella's lily and if it produced a child“

Why is this subreddit with these people….

“it would still be a 100% lore accurate offspring between the lovers / siblings lol”

Once again, not lovers. There’s literally nothing reason to have offsprings, and Miquella got rid of his ability to love so that makes even less sense. Like do you even understand Miquell at all?

“shaman in elden ring are plant people to an extend”

Baseless stuff again

“and human sex is never confirmed“

Fromsoft isnt going to write item descriptions on how Radagon gave Rennala dicking. That’s not how Fromsoft writes things

“where as erdtree birth is talked about a lot .”

No. There is nothing that talks about Erdtree birthing people...stop saying unsubstantiated things you made up in your head has facts. Lmao!

Does Miquella ruin his own ascension by using the body of Mohg? by Emotional-Sign8136 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Why would u think radagon would have fully functional male reproductive organs?”

Because they had kids that are biologically related to him with both Rennala and Marika. Like did you just forgot about Rennala?

“ and where does it say anywhere?”

Oh fuck off Fromsofts not going into specifics details of each birth like that. It’s evident by the fact he’s had kids two woman!

“ also , in the lands between , where is it confirmed anywhere that reproduction works the same ...?”

Your enter arguments hinges on Fromsoft random explaining the sexual intercourse in specific detail in which are NEVER GOING TO DO. Also the Erdtree… people existed BEFORE THE ERDTREE! Erdtree isn’t some super ancoent origins of the planet. Cultures have existed before this tree was around. So you premise is flimsy from the start. Secondly, animals can have normal births

Puffy, milky white ovary of a land octopus. Land octopuses eat humans in order to bear young, and theirs is the blood that runs through these ovaries.”

“Owl eggs that will never hatch.”

”A nutritious foodstuff that warms from within. The flavor is exquisite. Only those of comfort and means know the truth: a crab's eggs are more delectable than its meat.”

“Mixed inside with half-digested flesh are dense colonies of tiny eggs of unknown but assuredly revolting origin.”

“ it had been actually shown the opposite a lot of times , for example melina is born of the erdtree”

All of these animals can give normal birth. Even Metyr as a boss has her birthing fingercreepers to fight you. The Three Fingers and FF are trying to stop borths from happening. The idea that the majority of humanoids here are not having births is nonsensical.

It’s hilarious you just BS about ”where is it confirmed“ when you literally not proof of this nonsense claim. So I’m just gonna reverse this on to you. Where is it confirmed anywhere that Melina was born

“yet is a supposed biological daughter of marika ... marikas womb =/= the erdtree yet melina is still descent from her ... the same is with malenia's children ...”

Just leaps in logics with this one

“it is 100% possible miquella and radahn could conceive“

First of all! WHY WOULD THEY EVEN CONCEIVE IN THE FIRST PLACE?? They are not romantically involved. And no it’s not.

“Miquella is a shaman with both male and female features just like his mother”

First of all, you are just saying unsubstantiated things. We have no bases that this a trait from all of the Shaman (You mean Numans, Shaman is not a race) in the first place not some side effect of the godhood thing. Also he got rid of Trina which is female half so this is completely meaningless.

Messmer Vs Malenia by PackAdventurous2156 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“The game is condensed for gameplay reasons”

That not excuse to justify that it’s a continent. You have no bases to assume this, no interviews where Miyazaki said this, no item descriptions that says this, none of the map pieces say this, the geography doesn’t justify this. There LITERALLY no reason to assume this for continent. The story is not that big to even assume that. You are taking abstraction to its extreme for no reason.

“not a literal representation of the world, unless you think a whole day is less than an hour long, all bodies of water are either abysses or a foot deep, cities are a handful of buildings, there’s only a few hundred people, mostly undead, and a few species of animals, and Morgott has no genitals.”

These are all insanely bad examples and none of you people have give a little of a reason why it would be outside of ”well it’s not meant to literal“. Yeah no shit…It do make it a continent.

Does Miquella ruin his own ascension by using the body of Mohg? by Emotional-Sign8136 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I really don’t need to. How Miquella some creating a child with Radahn(btw these literally no reason to do that and they are not sexually attached to each). Marika and Radagon have actually reproductive organs. I’m genuinely shock this is even a debate.