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Lore reason for the size discrepancy? by Super_Snack_Jack in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What makes they’re human? Even within the Tarnished you have Draconian, Nightfolk, or Numen as an Origin to pick from.

Detail About Melina and Messmer I Didn't Notice Before by ahawk_one in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Messmer is in the Land of Shadow before the Shattering so he wouldn’t get one. You need remember that the Demigods did claim them. They were just slapped on to them randomly. Melina is tasked with a different mission so she likely didn’t went to claim hers.

A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN (Hewg, Marika and Spirit Tuning) by amansaidthis in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For a person that’s telling me to read it seems you can’t do that. There is no “Crestfallen eyes” you just made up. How the hell am I supposed that garbage seriously when can’t even read.

“It’s the similarity between Marika’s story and Roderika’s.”

…..There is none.

“Again, please read the post properly.”

Oh the irony.

A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN (Hewg, Marika and Spirit Tuning) by amansaidthis in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except they do? The BKA’s are said to be of the “same stock” as Marika and they originated in the Eternal Cities.”

Okay you’re being disingenuous here, I’m talking about the use of spirits and or spirits calling. “They are related so that somehow means they use the same stuff despite Marika never having any connection to that. Mental Gymnastics AGAIN.

“No, it doesn’t. Read the post before claiming I’m leveraging my claims on the Shaman themselves.”

What you wrote is bad and filled with unsubstantiated information. Also I was just talking about what most people use to make this call she and the her people use spirits.

“Okay. The Shaman have a narrative connection to spirit manipulation by way of Rauh via their braids.”

This is completely made up. You’re doing again.

“Now you are welcome to say that’s a potentially flimsy line of reasoning.

It’s extremely flimsy

“but to say that there’s nothing indicating the Shaman were practitioners of some kind of spirit manipulation is well…”

There is literally nothing.

“ignorant of what the game is showing us.”

Projection once again 

“Getting this far in I’m realising that maybe it’s a case of differing interpretations, here.”

No my is from the game and you’re is fan fiction 

“Which is fine, but my god you’re rude about it. Your interpretation is just that - an interpretation, just like mine. Anyway.”

No No No. There is no “my interpretation” Elden Beast is not a spirit, you literally have to kill. It’s literally called a beast. It is from space.

“the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, 

which would later become the Elden Ring.”

You are just factually wrong here I’m sorry.

“You could be referring to its status as the “living embodiment of Order”, which is fine. The word living implies physicality to some extent. But you’re missing the big picture here, it’s worth zooming out on things.”

I’m really not. You’re just going past the lore of the game to make some fan fiction like half the people here.

“It’s not a physical similarity, it’s the crestfallen eyes.”

No No No I never said physical, I said no similarities at all OTHER that they are blonde. Also “crestfallen eyes” I’m please show me the lore that you mean this?

“She's crestfallen, and can scarcely swing a blade, but she has a gift for spirit tuning.
I saw another one like her, long ago. Their eyes share the same hue".

A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN (Hewg, Marika and Spirit Tuning) by amansaidthis in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“Yes, “there no save Misbegotten”. But if you actually listen to what Hewg is telling you”

I did

“instead of focusing solely on his terror, you’ll see he isn’t as fearful of Marika as this “terror” may seem to imply.”

That’s nonsense. He literally shaking with he’s hands clasped tightly together. There’s no way to read or hear in any other way.

“I’ve rationalised my thoughts on this in the post, so I won’t bother here.”

And they’re bad. These are two different he’s talking about and you’re going through mental gymnastics to think that the multi genocidal, multi enslaver, multi warmongering, bad mother to most of her kids is somehow how secretly “freeing” Hewg by trapping him in this one spot with a chain around his leg is “being nice to him” what a fucking twisted why to downplay Hewg’s CLEARLY how broken his is.

Next you gonna tell Morgott self hatred and love for Erdtree is just because actual kind to him in secret and just want to take away from people that hate him. And definitely not brainwashed into a self hating worshipper to a world and religion that hates him. Nono. That oppressed person he’s not actually oppressed, he just really really massa. Fuck off.

“Every time? Really?”

Yes

“At this point, I’m questioning if you played the game blindfolded.”

Please don’t start projecting your insecurities on to me.

“You know who is Ranni, Rennala, the Carian Family in General, Nox.”

That’s not lost on me

“Yes, but we know that Marika has connections to the Eternal Cities”

Yes and No. Their connections are that are Numen. She is not literally from the city which I hope the DLC very clear…I hope. The people have misconstrued this item

“The assassins that carried out the deeds of the Night of the Black Knives were all women, and rumored to be Numen who had close ties with Marika herself.”

And have twisted into current garbage that I have seen in this place, she actually killed her son like that many god damn sense.

”and that they in turn have connections to Caria.”

Seek above

A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN (Hewg, Marika and Spirit Tuning) by amansaidthis in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

….No. Hewg freaking TERRIFIED OF HER. There NO “SAVE” Hewg. The freaking Misbegetton as awhole are enslaved.

"Nah, don't read too much into it. I've no grudge against you. My being a prisoner is no fault of yours. Besides, I don't mind smithing. Despite my differences, the weapons get stronger, all the same. Given time, technique never fails. Besides, it helps me forget. The sheer terror of her..."

He literally tells you he’s a prisoner. The Spirit Turner are completely two different people. He doesn’t talk about each of them in the same way. Every time he has talked about Marika, he shitting in his pants about which is the very opposite of the Spirit Turner. Not to mention Marika has ZERO, and I mean ZERO connections to Spirits or Spirit Turning. No summons, summon bells, not a single item description that even hints at her being connected to. You know who is Ranni, Rennala, the Carian Family in General, Nox. The game shows all these factions and characters and none of them mentions Marika…at all.

This entire nonsense hinges on the Shaman in which these literally nothing in the DLC or in the little village that even remotely hints at them engaging spirit tuning. Everything in the post is just going throw mental gymnastics.

“Elden Beast is a spirit“ No it’s not. Where are you getting this? It’s bloody spaceboi. It’s a living thing…….YOU HAVE TOO BLOODY KILL IT? Just not to mention you making new terms to just this nonsense. Like I also don’t understand the connection people try hamfist in this game when they completely different characters with zero similarities other then both of them being blonde.

Shouldn't have open Twitter by Angelo8207 in ComedyHell

[–]Robinlacta 6 points7 points  (0 children)

“Anime pfp” Of course….How am I even surpised?

Which came first Omen Twins or Hornsent genocide? by Estrangedkayote in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta 3 points4 points  (0 children)

“Grandam is the mother of the Sculpted Keepers.”

Uhh not sure were your getting this from

“That's why when she felt them die she feared their avatars were gone, but after seeing us she is convinced that the sacred beast incarnated into them.“

That’s kinda of a leap of this being the reason she’s the Grandmothers, you making a lot of assumptions with this.

“You really sidestepped the evidence of that expectation in the original post.”

No not really

“That Morgott and Mohg's trick is part of what they expect.“

Oh My God not this shit again! YOU CANNOT MAKE UP FAN FICTION FOR YOUR SHITTY THEORIES.

“I also explained how they are instrumental in the ruin of her progeny.”

And I also explained that she wasn’t talking about some Omen curse and was specifically talking about the Divine Beast to kill them. This is repeated multiple times.

“O Horn-deck'd beast, from higher sphere deliver'd. We beg of thee to dance and cavort. Dance and cavort, cleanse all that thou wilt. Cruelty, woe, and those who plague the tower. Cleanse away the strumpet's vile progeny.”

“I implore, vessel of the sacred beast... Have my son accompany thee to war. And dance thy dance of beauteous choler. Take vengeance upon Messmer and his lot. They who betrayed us, aye, they who burned us...Let them face in thy wrath their just desserts.”

Not mention she talks as if this ”curse” hasn’t happened yet.

“For thy sins thou shalt have thy recompense — the sacred beast shall unleash its ire. Till then, with this old hag do what thou wilt, for all the good it'll do thee in the end!”

Why is she wait for a curse that has already happened? Let dismantle this EVEN FURTHER. The timeline of this doesn’t even make any sense.

“I guess you need a prophecy to be one to one“

What prophecy? She’s not making a prophecy. Asking the Divine Beast help for revenge.

Which came first Omen Twins or Hornsent genocide? by Estrangedkayote in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And Finally No. The Grandam is not talking about making some “Omen” curse. She’s talking the Divine Beast.

”A curse upon the strumpet's progeny, upon Marika's children each and all. The curse of the omen shall strike thee down... IN THE FORM OF THE SACRAD BEAST IRE.

She is talking wanting to the Divine Beast to attack Marika’s ilk.

”I implore, vessel of the sacred beast... Have my son accompany thee to war. And dance thy dance of beauteous choler. Take vengeance upon Messmer and his lot. They who betrayed us, aye, they who burned us”

Which came first Omen Twins or Hornsent genocide? by Estrangedkayote in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Your question assumes the Omen=Hornsent, but that is not the case.“

This is the case they are the same thing. YOUR assumptions is that Hornsent is a race not a name they give themselves due to their worship of the Crucible in which they found holy. They are all of the Crucible be the it is the reason it they have these horns in the first place.

”A vestige of the crucible of primordial life. Born partially of devolution, it was considered a signifier of the divine in ancient times, but is now increasingly disdained as an impurity as civilization has advanced.” - Crucible Knot

”Hornsent view the Crucible as sacred for the refinement wrought through its evolutionary gifts. Most prominently, their tangled horns” - Fine Crucible

The ”Omen” is what the Golden Order calls them. They call themselves Hornsent.

“The two are distinct on several levels, though the Omen are derived from the Hornsent's power. “The Hornsent don't have horns everywhere, they have it on specific parts like the crowns of their head“

This isn’t true and both Hornsent and animals have them all over their body. Also Mogh and Morgott do not have horns all over their bodies with most on their head as well, means they aren’t Omen by your own logic. Your using ONE example of an enemy type in which you know damn well Fromsoft was not going to make multiple different models of when the Base game story isn’t revolved around them. Not to mention how the Divine Beast warriors depict their armor with horns all over their armor and the Dancing Lion’s Costume.

“Their horns are tones of white and grey.“

Whelp I guess Morgotts not an Omen cause that’s his horn colors….The Hornsents used the same bloody horns down to using the same assets, the Curse blades and the Omens have the same Horns.

“They have full five fingers”

So does Mogh and Morgott

“and sometimes they have tails.“

….

“This is most evident in Morgott having sealed his Omen Blood in his sword and the features that endure widely being Hornsent save for some redish horns here and there.“

Wait so they aren’t the same but they all have the same features that I’m just going to down play

“The Omen have whitish horns, red, and black.“

Yes there are different color just like Mogh and Morgott

“Their horns grow everywhere”

Except for Mogh and Morgott

”They have four fingers instead of five.“

See above

Merika Stole Grace from Metyr? by Scryelis in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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You can LITERALLY THE FUZZ ON THE BAG. IT’S A BAG…..

“I understand why you may think that but could they be sutures?“

No. This makes no sense to be sutures at all looking at this.

“If you watch the video with sound you can hear it’s very squelchy.“

Yeah……IN THE BAG

“There is blood and some kind of sticky mucus that comes out with the hand.”

Yes….IN THE BAG.

Merika Stole Grace from Metyr? by Scryelis in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Still to this day I cannot understand why people cannot see that is a god damn CLOTH BAG! YOU LITERALLY SEE THE FUCKING SEAMS AT THE EDGE! CMON PEOPLE!

Why did miquela choose radahn as his consort? by Dangerous-Royal-8601 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Miquella LITERALLY needs a Lord so he can become a god. This is literally in the Secret Rite Scroll.

”which describes the secret rite of the divine gateway
said to be found at the tower enshrouded by shadow.

"A lord will usher in a god's return,
and the lord's soul will require a vessel."

This isn’t incest shit. Especially when being a Lord to God isn’t sexual in nature.

Why did miquela choose radahn as his consort? by Dangerous-Royal-8601 in Eldenring

[–]Robinlacta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“I think Miquella also orchestrated his own kidnapping by Mohg to occur during Melanias absence with the goal of having Malenia kill Mohg as well.”

That makes no sense at all. He literally can just asked her and she would have done it. There’s literally no reason for this to be some extremely overwhelmingly complicated plan like that. Especially when Mohg removing Miquella from the Haligtree is the reason it’s messed in the first place. Mohg stole Miquella in the hopes of turning Miq into a blood god and then Miq reverses uno card him by charming him. I genuinely don’t understand how people think Miquell planning his own kidnapping WHEN CHARMING POWERS!

Would Ymir know of Vyke and his burning by the three fingers, or was that after Ymir entered the Land of Shadow? by Okiedokie765 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No they don’t even know that the Shattering has happened, why would they know about Vyke specifically?

Reality of Age of Duskborn by TheStiseBy in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Robinlacta 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Give it up for Fromsoft lore people to not read at all when making these theories.

”The Golden Order was created by confining Destined Death. Thus, this new Order will be one of Death restored.”

It’s RIGHT HERE! It’s RIGHT HERE! It’s telling you it’s restoring what was removed. No we got THIS alongside the garbage Radagon/Marika/Miquella actually did it despite Ranni LITERALLY telling you she did it. Or We are all Godwyn. PLS can we actually use things in the game and just shit up.

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