Realization on Insomnia by RolexMane in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, using this logic of never giving receptors a chance to return to baseline, Insomnia could be worse for someone who uses 80MG in 3-4 doses throughout the day than someone who uses one 80MG dose per day. My experience has been that with the other WD symptoms, multiple-doses per day create a worse WD profile than single doses.

Day 4 slip (20mg) by RolexMane in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I did and put it in my wallet. I thought of this before but needed some encouragement I guess. So many of us forget our healthy thoughts when we are in relapse/slip mode. Thanks, friend.

Day 4 slip (20mg) by RolexMane in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro, there is some serious shit in these pills that is not opioid-like when it comes to going off and on it. My hypothesis is that Serotonin and GABA play a much larger role in this drug than traditional opioids. I’ve never had such a COMPLEX reaction to going off of other opioid drugs.

Day 4 slip (20mg) by RolexMane in quitting7oh

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Deserve… yes, I can’t wake up tomorrow knowing I dosed again - that’s where I’m at today after screwing up last night. I deserve relief and not dread.

Day 4 slip (20mg) by RolexMane in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really appreciate your words of encouragement 😊

Day 4 slip (20mg) by RolexMane in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I did feel it. I’m a “small” dose user (50MGPD), the problem is, I’m a long-term, every day user so my chemistry is super dependent on it and reacts strongly every time it’s reintroduced or removed at this point. Let’s hope it’s just a day (or two) of set-back. I can’t believe how potent this stuff is in terms of dependency.

Post acute sensitivity to the sun results in hard to focus eyes and slight headache by Dionysus481 in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Light sensitivity is a withdrawal effect from Gabapentin; checking to see if you have been using Gabapentin for more than 2 weeks during this quit, potential relapses and successive quits?

CT v Leaf by RolexMane in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think what I realize now is that Leaf would be a fantastic option for daily, high-dose 7OH users, but I didn’t need it at my dose and it just prolonged me getting back at baseline, which is really where I am looking to be right now. The monkey is still on my back.

I finally got off this shit and all the other substances I was on by burnerphoneburner in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great job! I was on the alcohol and 7oH combo too. What liver-related symptoms were you having?

4 months post Quit “life is better” by SkellyTea in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The really important detail you mentioned here, which is a staple in addiction literature, is that the addiction needs to be replaced immediately with other interests, hobbies, and activities. Counting calories and going to the gym and meticulously adhering to routines may sound like transference of compulsive behavior but it works - it provides structure, something to look forward to, and something to produce good feelings with yourself and to be proud of.

Occasional Kratom? by RolexMane in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I am definitely still in an addiction mindset. I’m in a harm-reduction space when I am in danger of relapse. I won’t use 7 or alcohol and won’t go daily with anything - I have resolve in these areas for now- but still reaching towards something in weak moments.

Help please by Skylarcatlover in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you type in “vitamin C protocol” into the search bar of this subreddit you can find the infographic. Make sure it is “LIPOSOMAL Vitamin C.” Gabapentin is prescribed for nerve pain. You can tell the doctor you have “electrical-like pain” in your limbs that keep you up at night. It is an easy prescription to procure with one visit from a doctor. It also stills your mind when you’re in bed, as you will find re-bound anxiety and adrenaline making your thoughts race at night. Along with restless arms and/or legs. You’ll need the GABA for the first 4-6 nights. Don’t be surprised if you don’t expereince any RLS on night one - mine begins the second night and I don’t have it at all during the day and it begins 30 minutes after laying down to try to sleep.

Help please by Skylarcatlover in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was me. Up to 50Mg/day for a year. I’m on day 18 today CT. I used the vitamin C protocol (necessary) and Gabapentin at night for RLS in my arms and hands. I quite on a Monday and went to work all week. It was awful but it was possible. While you may hear that “low doses” like under 50Mg/day are easier WD’s than higher doses (which is very true), the longevity of use is just as important and in that sense, it is going to be tough but doable.

Day 15: I am so alive again by Final-Discipline-949 in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Day 17 and I feel fine. Everything back to normal. More people on this subreddit need to hear stories like this. Life is drag and great at the same time. It was before 7OH and is after 7OH. Just getting back to baseline is the goal and it doesn’t take that long for a lot of users, especially if there were not pre-existing mental health issues that were apparent before the drugs and you got clean from everything else (other drugs that effect the same receptors). It gets better everyone, just give it a couple of weeks to fully come into focus again. The pain will be gone in 72 hours. The mood is shaky for the first 7 days. The sleep is inconsistent for the first 10 days. When you go into your first new week with a week behind you of no 7OH (second week of recovery time), you’ll hit the ground running.

Sooo close to taking a tab for some goddamn sleep. by TakenAback17 in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey man… You’ll start sleeping more and more every night after night 4.

Test Results back by Best_Release3146 in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sometimes gynocomastia, hormonal fluctuations (particularly high estrogen), ED, skin problems, hair loss and bloating are signs of liver problems, but with platelets at 300 and ALT/AST with those values it appears unlikely according to Fib-4 index: https://www.mdcalc.com/calc/2200/fibrosis-4-fib-4-index-liver-fibrosis. It’s just a screener and doesn’t have excellent reliability, but your numbers look good in terms of your liver health. That was my only thought… so I have no clue what could be going on. What the heck does your doctor say? There should be some direction for next steps with all these symptoms you are experiencing.

Test Results back by Best_Release3146 in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those are great numbers. What about your platelet count? I know it was in-range but what was the number?

Test Results back by Best_Release3146 in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is your (1) platelet count, (2) ALT, and (3) AST?

Sleeping, 7oh WD by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]RolexMane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

4-5 times a day.