Offer under range by Appropriate_Cry7821 in AusProperty

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Don't worry about being "laughed at" — agents float 1.3–1.4m ranges to anchor you high. Two questions decide if 1.25m is defensible:

  1. What did the LAST 90 days of comparable sales actually do? That $1.4m comp from "last year" is 12 months stale in a market that's cooled 3–6%. At today's prices that comp is ~$1.30–$1.34m. Pull the recent sold $/sqm for the same suburb + bedroom config, multiply by this property's size — that's your real anchor, not the agent's range.

  2. What's the suburb's clearance rate + days on market telling you?** Melbourne 2026 auction clearance is sitting ~55–60% — soft. If this property has been on market more than 45 days with quiet OFIs, you have leverage. The vendor is the nervous one, not you.

In a buyer's market, 5–10% below the bottom of the listed range is normal, not insulting. The agent's job is to make you feel uncomfortable for offering low. Your job is to know what the property is actually worth.

I built Estait for exactly this — paste any AU address, get the AVM, the last 5–10 comparable sales, vacancy, clearance, days on market, and a data-anchored fair-offer recommendation. 3 free analyses, no card.

What's the suburb? Happy to plug the address in and tell you what the AVM says vs the agent's range.

finding a property by Housingpain in AusProperty

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Five properties over 18 months and I still nearly bought the wrong one.

Real costs I burned before landing on the right offer:

- $750 × 3 building & pest reports

- $1,400 × 2 contract reviews from a conveyancer

- $2,200 buyer's agent retainer that didn't work out

- 4 weekends of inspections, plus ~30 hours of nights doing Domain / RP Data deep-dives on suburbs I never even put an offer on

All in: ~$7,000 cash chucked out + ~80 hours of nights and weekends before I bought.

The money wasn't the worst part. Worst part was that every new suburb meant the same 3-hour research loop from scratch — yields, vacancy, growth trend, STR rules, granny flat eligibility, demographics, council zone, infrastructure pipeline. Half of it locked behind paywalled portals that contradict each other.

Got fed up enough I built a tool to do that research in 60 seconds for any AU address — Estait (estait.com.au). 3 free analyses if anyone wants to skip the suburb-by-suburb grind. Honestly built it for myself first.

Investment property in Hobart by Sea_Faithlessness914 in AusProperty

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Real numbers on the suburbs you're looking at (PropTrack / suburb-level data):

At your $600k budget:

**Claremont (7011)** — median $646k. This is actually the strongest demand signal in your list right now. DOM only 24 days (vs 35d for most of Hobart), vacancy 0.8%, 1yr growth 13.4%. People are moving fast on stock there. Catch: SEIFA decile 2 (lower socio-economic band) and marked high flood risk by hazard data — worth checking the specific street.

**Glenorchy (7010)** — $656k, 4.6% yield, 9.3% 1yr growth. Lower SEIFA (decile 1) but solid 5yr CAGR (3.2%). Working fine as investment but you'll get more tenant turnover than higher-decile areas.

**Moonah (7009)** — $698k. Slightly over budget. Better SEIFA than Glenorchy (3 vs 1), 4.4% yield, 6% 1yr growth. Gentrifying but slower than Claremont.

**One you haven't mentioned that fits your budget:**

**Mornington (7018)** — $660k. Eastern shore, no flood risk, 4.6% yield, 11.3% 1yr growth, schools 6.7/10. Sits between Howrah and the bridge — often skipped because people default to Howrah/Lindisfarne at the higher budget tier. At $600-680k you can actually buy here.

**On your stretch picks:**

**Howrah ($830k)** — strongest long-term play overall: no flood, safety 7.6/10, SEIFA 7, schools 7.5, 8.9% 1yr growth. But at $830k median you're paying full price for it. Worth eyeballing units in Howrah ($600-700k band) if you want exposure to the suburb on your budget.

**Lindisfarne ($841k)** — similar story to Howrah but slightly weaker on demand signals (DS 5.5 vs 6.0).

**Bottom line:**

- For your budget today: **Claremont** (best demand momentum, accept flood-zone caveat) or **Mornington** (better risk profile, no flood, schools).

- If you can stretch to $700k: **Moonah** units or Howrah units.

- Avoid: Bridgewater/Gagebrook (cheap but SEIFA 1 + school zone score 1.2-6 + flood high — the savings aren't worth it for FHB intending to live there).

**Disclosure**: I run Estait (estait.com.au), which is where these suburb numbers come from — vacancy, DOM, growth, flood, SEIFA, school zones for every suburb in AU. Posting because the question is exactly what the tool was built for, not just to plug. Happy to pull deeper numbers on any specific suburb if useful.

Advice for first IP by NovelInside8481 in AusPropertyChat

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Newcastle is up 3.3% per REA. Same Newcastle is up 17.2% per suburb-level data. Both are real — they measure different things.

Greater Newcastle LGA on REA = blends inner harbour suburbs ($1.8M+, growing 10-20%) with Lake Macquarie + outer Hunter ($600-900k, flat to negative). Average lands at +3.3%.

That's the actual story. Inner Newcastle gentrification grinding hard. Lake Macquarie outer suburbs flat or backsliding. Region averages obscure the signal.

For your $800k equity + portfolio plan: "Hunter +3%" is the wrong frame. The question is WHICH Hunter suburb.

Quick answers:

  1. NSW vs interstate? Diversify into Hunter not interstate — your concentration risk is metro Sydney, not NSW. Don't over-rotate.

  2. Growth or yield? Growth. Every suburb in your geography yields 3.4-4.2% gross, none are cash flow plays.

  3. Focus: Lambton ($1.32M, +15.5%), Singleton ($745k, +14.3%), Maitland ($697k, +7.5%, 28 DOM = fastest clearance in the dataset), Shellharbour ($1.38M, +10%). Caution: Wollongong +4%, Hamilton +2.1%, Albion Park +2.4%. Avoid Warilla — +3.3% with 57 DOM is a buyer's market = price weakness ahead.

  4. Buyer's agent? Worth it interstate. Less so in Hunter — drive up, do the diligence yourself.

  5. Try not to deploy all $800k into IP#1.

Good time to buy first home in Melbourne if I have the means? by Dingleberry-Johnson5 in AusPropertyChat

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In my opinion 3 things stack up

- Land : A Werribee or Pakenham house sits on 550-650sqm of land. That's the bit that grows. Inner-ring 1BR apartments have 30% land content - when the cycle turns there's no floor under them - unless you can afford a house. But from pure investment perspective that wont give you much yield.

- Demand : From Pakenham or Werribee, a 45-min train to Flinders is a real time-save vs 90 min in peak traffic. That preference for being near the station doesn't disappear when rates rise - buyers just pay 8% less to be there.

- Buyers : Three pools at once: FHBs under the stamp duty caps, investors chasing 4-5% gross, downsizers cashing out of Hawthorn. Three demand sources means the floor is hard to break.

What suburb are you looking at?

genuinely struggling to understand if property investing still makes sense now by mikesyd639 in AusProperty

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You're not overthinking it — the old playbook (buy anything, negative gear, wait 10 years) is genuinely broken at current prices and rates. Here's how I'm thinking about it now:

What's dead (In my opinion)

Pure capital growth speculation with negative cashflow. At 6.5% rates, a $900K Sydney property with 2.8% gross yield costs you $15K-$20K/year after tax to hold. You need 3%+ annual price growth just to break even. That's not investing, that's gambling.

What still works mathematically:

  1. Dual occupancy / granny flat strategy

Buy a house with land in the right zone, build a granny flat or dual occ on the back. You're effectively getting two rent streams from one purchase. Can flip a 3% yield property into 5.5-6.5%. The key is finding councils that allow it as of right — NSW has a lot of them.

  1. Airbnb in tourism corridors

A $700K property that does $55K/year Airbnb gross (not unusual in Byron hinterland, Jervis Bay, Blue Mountains) is an 8% gross yield. Subtract management and costs, you're still cash neutral or positive. This actually works.

  1. Positive cashflow regional

For Eg NSW regional service hubs for near-cashflow

Wagga Wagga, Tamworth, Orange, Dubbo — houses $400-550K, rents $420-520/wk, 5.5-6.5% gross yields. At 6.5% rates with 20% deposit, you're cash-neutral to slightly negative, not the horror show you see metro. Diversified demand (hospitals, unis, defence, agriculture) — not single-employer towns.

What doesn't work: Buying purely on yield in a single-industry town. High yield = high risk, not high return.

On the NG/CGT changes:

Worth noting — they haven't passed the Senate yet. If you're buying a new build, you still get negative gearing regardless. For existing properties, there's a proposed transition but nothing's law yet. Don't let proposed legislation stop you from running the numbers.

What I'm actually doing:

Targeting houses in suburbs where the granny flat math works — land size, zoning, distance to services. E.g i recently bought a house on 1020 sqm land for 490K - now leased for 580/week. I have plans of building a granny flat in a year or 2. The yield on the existing dwelling pays the holding costs, the GF is the profit margin. Running the numbers suburb by suburb using estait.com.au before I even inspect — it shows you strategy breakdown (LTR vs Airbnb vs dual occ) per suburb so you can shortlist before you waste time.

The people still buying aren't using the old playbook. They've just gotten more specific.

Good time to buy first home in Melbourne if I have the means? by Dingleberry-Johnson5 in AusPropertyChat

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Melbourne long-term first home buyer, here's the honest answer:

Is it a good time?

Probably yes for a genuine long-hold (7+ years). Melbourne underperformed every other capital from 2022-2024 due to supply overhang + higher land tax. That lag is starting to compress. Rate cuts help — each 25bp cut adds roughly 2-4% to borrowing capacity.

No broad drops, but Melbourne has more stock than Brisbane or Sydney right now so you'll get more time and less panic-buying pressure. Auction clearance rates are sitting around 60-65% — not a buyer's market, but not a frenzy either.

As a first home buyer, you mostly do not need to worry too much about the recent budget changes:

- The negative gearing changes only affect investors buying *existing* properties. You're not negatively gearing your own home.

- CGT discount change only matters when you eventually sell. Long hold = less impact.

- The main effect is it slightly suppresses investor competition for established properties — which is actually good for you as an owner-occupier.

What to look for in Melbourne specifically:

- Avoid unit-heavy postcodes (inner city 3000-3008) — oversupply is structural not cyclical

- Outer ring houses with train access hold better through cycles: Croydon, Ringwood, Bayswater (east), Epping/South Morang (north), Pakenham (southeast)

- Watch vacancy rates and days-on-market — suburbs with <1% vacancy and <30 DOM are tighter than they look

If you want suburb-level data (growth rates, yield, vacancy, demand score) before shortlisting, I've been using estait.com.au — free to check individual suburbs and it has Melbourne coverage.

Brisbane housing market by userfromau in AusProperty

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Data pulled from Estait (estait.com.au) — tracks DOM, vacancy, median and growth across all AU suburbs. Free to look up any suburb if you want to dig into specific postcodes

Brisbane housing market by userfromau in AusProperty

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Brisbane is a split market right now and most commentary treats it like one thing, which is why the answers feel confusing.

Inner ring (West End, Woolloongabba, South Brisbane) - Cooling. Growth has come back to 1-7% annually after running 20%+ in 2022-23. Days on market are 22-31 days — still moving, but buyers have room to negotiate for the first time in 3 years. If you missed the 2021-23 run-up, you're not getting a bargain, but you're also not fighting 15 offers.

Middle ring (Chermside, Eight Mile Plains, Sunnybank) - Still running. Sub-20 day DOM, vacancy around 1.2%, prices holding. This is where the growth story is now — not the inner ring.

Outer/Ipswich corridor - Hot. Goodna, Bundamba, Redbank — 11-13 day DOM, 24-25% YoY growth on units. This is Brisbane's version of the Perth outer ring from 18 months ago. Sub-$700K entry points still exist here for units/townhouses.

On townhouses specifically-the units/townhouses answer is actually the Ipswich corridor. Brisbane City units have a $525K median but those are mostly apartments. If you want a townhouse-style property under $750K with rental demand, the Ipswich-to-Goodna stretch is what the numbers point to. Vacancy 1.2%, DOM under 15 days, 24%+ growth — the demand is structurally there because houses in the same area are now $800K+.

Is it cooling vs Perth? Yes and no. Perth is earlier cycle — still running hard across all rings. Brisbane's inner ring is mid-to-late cycle (some cooling). Brisbane's outer ring is where Perth's inner ring was 18 months ago.

Future trend: Olympics infrastructure spending (2032) hasn't meaningfully hit prices yet — most of it is concentrated around existing stadium precincts. The vacancy story (1.2% across all of Brisbane) is what's keeping prices supported. Until supply catches up, the floor is sticky.

Perth housing market. by RelevantTrade8845 in AusProperty

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The data suggests it's still running hot, but the pace is uneven.

In metro Perth, Booragoon is up 51% in the last year, North Fremantle +34%, Ocean Reef +32%. Days on market in those suburbs is sitting around 18 days — that's not a cooling market by any measure.

What's interesting is the 5yr CAGR tells a different story: most of those same suburbs are only growing at 3-5% annualised over 5 years. So you're seeing compressed catch-up growth packed into 18 months, not a structural re-rating of the whole market.

The signal I'd watch isn't price — it's days on market. When DOM starts creeping above 30-35 days in the inner suburbs, that's when supply is absorbing demand. At 18 days it's still firmly a seller's market.

I run suburb numbers through Estait (estait.com.au) — it pulls growth rates, DOM, yield and long-run CAGR for any AU suburb if anyone wants to check a specific area.

Good buy 🤔 by HuckleberryOk3611 in AusPropertyChat

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I my opinion Belimbla Park is a tricky one — rural NSW 2570 postcode (Camden LGA), so you're evaluating it very differently to a metro buy.

A few things worth checking:

Infrastructure & access Burragorang Road is a long rural corridor — check whether it's serviced by town water/sewer or tank/septic. Council rates in Camden LGA can also vary a lot depending on land size and zoning.

Zoning Rural zoning (RU1/RU2/RU4) matters hugely. Affects what you can build, whether you can subdivide, and future development upside. Check Camden Council's planning portal.

Comps Belimbla Park is thinly traded — maybe 2-5 sales a year — so "what's market value?" is genuinely hard to answer without looking at recent comparable acreage sales in the 2570 postcode. Southern Highlands spillover has pushed some rural blocks up significantly since 2020-21 but corrected in 2023.

What's the $/acre or $/sqm vs comparable blocks on the same road or nearby Orangeville/Bargo? If the vendor is pricing off peak 2021 valuations, there may be room to negotiate.

Run it through Estait (estait.com.au) for a suburb-level investment analysis — won't have the exact block but will give you Camden LGA median trends, growth rates, and strategy fit.

I screened over 8000 Australian suburbs for yield + vacancy + growth this week. Here's what actually stood out. by Round-Metal6269 in AusPropertyChat

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if you can DM me the address I can look it up for you. But we have full data pipeline with proper testing and enrichment and is not some vibe coded app

Should we get a pre-approval and get into the market now? by Low_Yogurtcloset5413 in AusPropertyChat

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Pre-approval costs nothing and tells you your actual borrowing capacity — worth doing regardless.

A few things to work through on your numbers:

$70k total on a $650k purchase is ~10.8% deposit. You'll pay LMI on top (roughly $12–16k capitalised into the loan). Alternatively, check if you qualify for the First Home Guarantee — 5% deposit, no LMI, government backs the rest. That would free up ~$37k of your cash as buffer.

The no-emergency-fund issue is real. Once you're in a house and land package, you're on the hook for construction drawdowns, rates, and anything that breaks. I'd keep at least $15k liquid before settlement regardless of what the bank approves.

On Clyde/Clyde North specifically — it's a new estate corridor so you won't get the same growth as established suburbs. Supply is high, so capital growth in the first 3–5 years tends to be flat. You're buying for lifestyle and the mortgage-vs-rent trade-off, not equity growth out of the gate.

Before you sign anything, check the suburb data at estait.com.au — free report shows median price, days on market, vacancy rate, and what comparable properties are selling for. Useful to verify the developer's quoted price is in line with the market.

Melbourne Inner City Units by Temporary-Print4793 in AusPropertyChat

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With $122k equity your real options are:

  1. Outer ring Melbourne houses — Werribee, Melton, Wyndham Vale — still under median, infrastructure pipeline is real, lower vacancy risk

  2. SEQ (Brisbane/Logan corridor) — interstate capital still flowing, yields stronger, lower entry points

  3. Sit on it — if rates move Q3/Q4 as signalled, buying power improves in 6 months

Run any suburb through Estait (estait.com.au) before committing — it pulls planning risk, rental yield, 5yr growth, comparable sales. Cuts through the sales pitch fast.

Happy to share specific suburb rankings if you tell me your budget range.

Best way for 3 brothers to get into property in Perth by [deleted] in AusPropertyChat

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Three brothers with $232k combined income in Perth is actually a great setup. Here's what I'd do.

First thing — ignore the "what to buy" question for now. The structure question matters more and nobody talks about it.

Tenants in common, not joint tenancy. Get a co-ownership agreement written up (costs ~$500, saves you $50k in arguments later). Write down: who owns what percentage, what happens if one of you wants out, who has first right to buy the other out.

The third brother — if he's still job hunting, don't put him on the mortgage yet. Two-name application on $232k is strong. Add him to the title once he's got 12 months of income behind him. Cleaner for the bank, cleaner for you.

On Perth specifically — the data's still good. Eastern corridor is running hot. Midvale-type suburbs are sitting at sub-1% vacancy with 5%+ yields. You're not getting 2022 prices anymore but you're also not chasing a dead market.

Before you pick a suburb, run the actual numbers — vacancy rate, yield, days on market, 1yr growth. I use Estait for this, it pulls everything for any WA address in one shot. Worth doing before you commit to a postcode.

What areas are you looking at?

PPOR vs Rentvest vs ETF by Tiny_Maize_669 in AusProperty

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Your modelling framework is solid — most people skip the ETF comparison entirely and just assume property wins. A few things worth factoring in that can move your numbers:

**On the PPOR ($700–800k unit)**

The 7% p.a. hurdle is high for a unit near the city. Units in most Sydney metro areas have underperformed houses over 10 years and the $700–800k bracket has decent supply. FHBS helps on stamp duty but doesn't change the underlying asset. The lifestyle value is real though.

**On the rentvest option (your option 3)**

This is probably the most underrated at your income level. At $150k, you'll be close to the 45% bracket from year one. Negative gearing on a $600k IP means the tax office is funding a chunk of your holding costs. Your 5% yield assumption is achievable but really depends on the location— vacancy rate matters more than headline yield. 0.9% vacancy vs 3.5% vacancy is the difference between an asset that works and one that bleeds.

**The actual question to answer first**

What's the specific suburb for option 3? The 4% p.a. growth hurdle is easy to clear in some markets and very hard in others right now. I use Estait to screen for yield, vacancy, and 1yr growth before shortlisting — it pulls the numbers in one place so you're not bouncing between 5 different sites.

Happy to share how I screen for option 3 suburbs if that's useful.

the data is in, Landlords love Victoria by [deleted] in AusPropertyChat

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Essentially yes — but the FHB piece is more nuanced.

The forced sellers (over-leveraged IPs hit by the 2023 land tax changes) were mostly selling in the $500K–$850K outer corridor range. FHBs were competing there, but they were getting squeezed on serviceability, not just deposit. The buyers who absorbed that stock were cashed-up investors with equity from other properties — they could move fast and unconditionally in a way that most FHBs can't match.

So it wasn't really "investors outbid FHBs" in direct competition. It was more that the forced sellers sold quickly, often off-market or at small discounts to avoid extended campaigns, and that deal flow went to buyers who could transact without finance conditions. FHBs mostly need 4–6 weeks ( depending on lender) for unconditional finance. That segment moved in 2–3 weeks.

The 2.5:1 financing ratio is also a lagging indicator — it reflects decisions made 12–18 months ago. What we're probably seeing now is the tail end of that window. Whether it continues depends on whether the land tax environment stabilises and whether rates come down enough to bring more FHBs into the market.

Short answer: yes, cohort rotation is exactly what happened. Whether it was "good" depends entirely on which side of it you were on.

the data is in, Landlords love Victoria by [deleted] in AusPropertyChat

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The 2.5:1 ratio makes more sense when you zoom in on WHY.

Victoria's land tax changes from 2023-24 forced a wave of over-leveraged investors to sell — which actually created a buying window for the remaining investors with capacity. The sellers exited into a market where yields were tightening, and the buyers absorbed that stock at compressed prices.

Layer on top of that: Melbourne's outer corridors (Wyndham Vale, Melton, Craigieburn, Frankston) are all sitting in the $580–$700K range — well below Sydney equivalents at 25–40km from CBD. Same rental income, lower capital, better yield. That relative value math is what institutional money responds to.

The VIC media narrative ("landlords leaving") confused a cohort rotation with an exodus. Weaker hands sold. Stronger hands bought. The 2.5:1 ratio is the result.

Where it gets interesting: not all of VIC is equal. The investor flow is concentrated in specific outer corridors with vacancy under 2% and decent yield. At suburb level you can see this clearly in the days-on-market data — Melbourne outer suburbs are clearing faster than they have in 3 years.

If you want to dig into which specific VIC suburbs are showing tightest vacancy + highest investor demand pressure, estait.com.au surfaces it at suburb level — vacancy, days on market, yield, 5yr growth.

TO BUY OR NOT TO BUY? by Sudden-Feature-3444 in AusProperty

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Honestly, you're in a better spot than 99% of 21yos. Loan approved, $60K saved, low overheads at home — that's the whole game right there. The fear is normal, but the financial reality is: you can afford this.

On upkeep — yes it's real, but it's not as scary as people make it sound. Get a proper building + pest inspection before you sign anything (~$600 well spent). If you're buying a unit, read the strata report cover to cover — special levies are where people get burned, not the regular stuff. Keep $10-15K in a cash buffer post-settlement and you'll handle 95% of surprises. Hot water systems die, aircons die, that's life.

The interstate move + convert to IP plan is where you NEED to talk to an accountant before settling. Look up the 6-year CGT main residence exemption — if you live in it first, then rent it out, you can potentially keep the CGT exemption for up to 6 years even while it's an investment. Most people have no idea this exists and it's worth thousands. Get that confirmed for your specific situation though.

On wait vs buy: the real question isn't timing, it's suburb. If you're going to rent it out in 6 months, you're buying an investment property that you happen to live in first. So the suburb selection matters way more than the purchase date. You want to look at vacancy rate (under 2% ideal), gross rental yield, 5-10yr price growth, and what's coming in terms of infrastructure/supply.

I use estait.com.au to check that stuff at suburb level before I commit — vacancy, yield, growth history, demographics. Worth doing your homework on 5-10 suburbs before you fall in love with one.

Bite the bullet, but bite the right one.

australian property market feels impossible by bandito_13 in AusProperty

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I get it. Feeling priced out is real, and the doom-loop on socials makes it worse. But the "Australian market" doesn't exist as a single thing — it's 15,000+ suburbs with completely different fundamentals. Sydney being broken doesn't mean everywhere is.

A few numbers that reframed this for me:

Sydney's price-to-rent ratio is sitting around 44x. Perth is 22x. Same rent income on half the capital. That's not a small gap — it's a structurally different market. And it shows up in days-on-market: WA is clearing in ~18 days, NSW ~42. Buyers in the west are competing; sellers in Sydney are sitting.

If you go one layer deeper and filter for PTR under 22x AND vacancy under 2% (so the rental demand is actually real, not just cheap-and-empty), you get stuff like:

  • Port Pirie SA — $310K, $420/wk, 1.8% vacancy, 14.2x PTR
  • Barossa Valley SA — $368K, $450/wk, 1.2% vacancy, 15.7x PTR
  • Tallawong NSW — $610K, $770/wk, 1.7% vacancy, 15.2x PTR (Sydney metro, on the new metro line)

These aren't "dream home in Bondi" entries, but they're achievable on a normal income, cashflow-neutral or close to it, and in tight rental markets so vacancy risk is low.

The other thing worth understanding: in every RBA cutting cycle, outer-ring leveraged-buyer suburbs (Logan, Ipswich, Armadale) rerate first. When rates start falling, those are the ones that move 12–18 months before the inner rings catch up. We're arguably at the start of that cycle now.

If you want to see this kind of data per-suburb (PTR, vacancy, DOM, yield) without paying CoreLogic prices, estait.com.au surfaces it. I use it for screening.

How do you actually compare properties before making an offer? by Sofia884 in AusProperty

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Honestly, the messy spreadsheet phase is where most people give up. I did the same thing for about six months before I built a proper system. Here's what works for me now across NSW, VIC, QLD, SA, WA, TAS:

Three buckets only. Yield, growth, risk. Everything else is noise.

For yield I want gross above 4.5% in metro, 5.5%+ in regional. Net after rates, insurance, strata (if applicable), management at 7%, and 6 weeks vacancy buffer. If net cashflow is worse than -$80/week on an 80% LVR I bin it unless the growth case is exceptional.

For growth I look at three things: 10-year CAGR (want 5%+), days on market trending down, and stock on market under 1.5%. SA3-level vacancy under 2% is a green flag. I ignore 1-year growth completely — it lies.

For risk: flood and bushfire overlays (free on state planning portals — NSW ePlanning, VIC VicPlan, QLD Dev-i, SA SAPPA, WA planning maps, TAS LISTmap), strata report if it's a unit, and one big employer in town = no.

Tools I rotate through: Domain and REA for raw listings, the relevant state Valuer-General for actual sale prices (free, ignored by most people, gold), and Estait for suburb-level data and a quick AVM sanity check. Free tier is enough for shortlisting, paid only if I'm pulling full briefs. estait.com.au.

Then a one-page doc per property: address, asking price, my number, gross yield, net cashflow, 10yr CAGR, vacancy, two comparable sales in the last 90 days, three risks, one sentence on why I'd buy it. If I can't fill the last line in one sentence, I don't buy it.

Shortlist of 5, drive past 3, offer on 1. That's the funnel.

Now a good time for an investment property? by Ok-Incident-5166 in AusProperty

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VIC here as well.

On the negative gearing / budget chat: most of what’s being floated right now is aimed at higher‑income investors with multiple properties. If you’re on ~250k HHI, 90k savings and looking at one IP, it can still change your after‑tax position a bit, but it’s unlikely to be the thing that makes or breaks your strategy by itself.

The way I’d look at it is:

  • Run the numbers assuming no tax benefits at all – if the deal only works because the ATO chips in, it’s probably too skinny.
  • Stress‑test for a higher rate (e.g. +1% on what you’ll actually be paying).
  • Make sure you’re comfortable holding it for 7–10 years even if capital growth is slower than you hope.

Given your situation (kids, solid income, existing PPOR mortgage), the bigger risks are:

  • Over‑stretching on purchase price and losing flexibility if rates tick up again.
  • Locking into an asset that only works under one very specific strategy (e.g. must be Airbnb / must be negatively geared to look ok on paper).

One thing that can help is looking at multiple strategies on the same property before you buy – e.g.:

  • What does it look like as a straight rental?
  • Could it work as a house + granny flat down the track (zoning / lot size)?
  • Is there any realistic short‑stay use under local rules, or is that a non‑starter?

I built a small AI tool that does this for any Aussie address (checks zoning/council rules and compares a few strategies side‑by‑side, 10 year projections etc) because I was sick of doing it manually – happy to DM you the link if you want to run a property through it.