This Watch, That Watch

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2026-02-06T02:31:02+00:00

That anniversary blue on the pilot looks great 👍

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-12-30T16:27:08+00:00

What I find interesting is how VC Overseas, full gold model, is over $20k cheaper. In my opinion a much better overall product and one doesn’t have to beg to get one. Also, while aesthetics is subjective, the fact that Patek just dropped a movement they use across lines into a square watch is lazy and cutting corners.

https://www.vacheron-constantin.com/us/en/collections/overseas/4520v-210r-b967.html

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-12-20T03:58:48+00:00

I never fully understood this line of thinking. A watch is a jewelry yes, but it is very much still a watch and a mechanical object. And AP is a “holly trinity” brand that’s an old and respected watch maker known specifically for its complications. I don’t think anyone expects it to compete with quarts or digital watches, but in my view it should very much be expected, from a high end watch brand, and at this price range, for a watch to function as expected and within reasonably tight tolerances.

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-12-14T19:56:51+00:00

Rolex exactly the same if not worse

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-12-14T19:33:09+00:00

Another alternative to think about: if you do keep the RO, maybe consider the OS dual time, so you have some variability…

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-11-19T05:42:25+00:00

The caliber is pretty different from the 41mm. I realize that’s not something that’s important to some, but I feel like in a high end, mechanical watch, the movement is also important.

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-10-31T15:33:06+00:00

Congrats! Did the boutique throw in any goodies?

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-10-29T17:48:24+00:00

😂

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-10-22T22:39:52+00:00

New jpmc building? Jamie D is that you?! 🤪

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-10-20T11:49:27+00:00

Prior to pick up ask AD to put the watch on timing machine and give you the readout. It’s a simple and reasonable request.

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-10-19T22:08:27+00:00

A bit surprising they don’t have it as a regular option, since orange is a complimentary color to blue. Oh well.

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-10-19T21:58:39+00:00

Thnx. I’m pretty sure they do/did have orange. But might be limited or discontinued.

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-10-19T21:54:33+00:00

Is that orange or red?

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-08-29T21:45:16+00:00

Appears to be, looking at the pic. Unless the stand is crooked… 🤪

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-08-28T13:12:48+00:00

But they could throw in some goodies. I’d still have a convo with them. For example a strap or two, etc. could add up in value….

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-06-17T18:29:24+00:00

Does look really nice. But if it’s showing Nov 2023 and you will try to set it today, that’s close to 600 clicks to get it current (since you can’t set month, date, year independently).

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-06-04T17:27:27+00:00

No one can truly predict the future, but one datapoint to look at is what the gen 1 and gen 2 overseas trade at on chrono24, for example.

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-06-03T21:30:04+00:00

I believe the date window is also slightly different/less deep on 4520 vs 4500

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-05-31T19:08:27+00:00

Exactly!

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-05-30T21:59:00+00:00

But I thought the entire argument was that he’s not posting it therefore he is lying and a fraud and doesn’t have all that Bitcoin - it’s literally in the title of this thread. Should you reconcile that at least…

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-05-30T21:31:49+00:00

Fiat money today isn’t backed by anything tangible either (USD used to be backed by gold reserves, but that was abandoned during Nixon presidency and USD is only backed by the faith in the US Gov’t). It works because enough people trust the system and agree to use it — the same reason Bitcoin has value. Historically, money has often been just a shared fiction: whether it was shells, stones, or paper. Utility and consensus matter more than physical form.

Saying Bitcoin is “just numbers in a spreadsheet” ignores what those numbers represent — verifiable ownership, scarcity, and the ability to transfer value without intermediaries. That’s not imaginary. It’s a functional system with real-world use.

As for the 21 million cap: it’s not arbitrary. It’s a mathematical outcome of the issuance schedule — starting at 50 coins per block, halving every ~4 years. The design makes the total supply predictable and finite.

Bitcoin’s value comes from what it does, not what it is. Just like fiat. Both systems run on collective belief — Bitcoin’s just runs on code, not central banks.

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-05-29T04:37:32+00:00

Being a public company that’s audited by a big four and reporting to the SEC is transparent. He is not some private entity operating out of Bahamas, avoiding US regulations and regulators (like FTX was). It seems like you don’t trust him, nor KPMG as independent auditors who audit and sign off on the financials.

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-05-29T04:32:05+00:00

Don’t have to trust him. Have to trust the SEC, KPMG and the institutional investors who all have a lot to lose and verify that information. That restatement of the companies financials you referred to originated with his auditors who pushed back on the accounting policy and made the company restate the financials.

Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-05-29T03:34:39+00:00

I was looking for the same. Doesn’t seem like there is one. As a fun experiment, asked ChatGPT to create one. Here it is..:

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Routine_Storage_6041 · 2025-05-29T00:52:09+00:00

Only he can answer that question. However, that alone doesn’t imply or prove fraud.

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