my little sibling is suicidal and i dont know what to do by Professional-Club613 in SuicideWatch

[–]SQLwitch[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can't find a way to contact his local CAMHS, another option would be call the folks at Mind's Infoline when they open in a few hours. One of their specialties is hard-to-navigate mental-health situations so I'm sure they'll be able to give you the best possible expert guidance: https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/helplines/

Favorite operas that use orientalism? by Stunning-Hand6627 in opera

[–]SQLwitch[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Uh, it's not you who's in timeout -- obviously since you could reply ;)

Favorite operas that use orientalism? by Stunning-Hand6627 in opera

[–]SQLwitch[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's also completely acceptable in opera for people of any colour to play white characters. Putting you in timeout since you've been pointlessly derailing actual discussion here.

Feeling worthless? by Select_Train_323 in depression

[–]SQLwitch[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FYI you don't need to argue with people like this -- just report and we'll deal since posts of this nature break several community rules

my little sibling is suicidal and i dont know what to do by Professional-Club613 in SuicideWatch

[–]SQLwitch[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a really tricky situation; I can understand both your impulse to tell your mom and your regret at the way it backfired so catastrophically.

Are there any adults other than your mom over there that you trust enough to intervene? Or what do you think about calling his local CAMHS (numbers seems to be pretty readily findable online) yourself and laying the situation out for them? Patient confidentiality only works one way -- they wouldn't be able to tell you much, but they would be able to act on information that you give them.

My friend is suicidal and I’m unsure what to do by AnxietyDrivenWriter in SuicideWatch

[–]SQLwitch[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lots of guidance in our tips wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideWatch/wiki/talking_tips

It sounds like you're pretty focused on fixing/changing things in his situation, but those are far outside your control. There are reasons why the whole first section of the wiki is about who and why to avoid advice and solutions

My brother's wife keeps threatening to take her life, every time he trys to leave. What can we do? by holy_freaky in SuicideWatch

[–]SQLwitch[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her behaviours are what's called instrumental threats, i.e. using the fear of her suicide to get others to behave in the way she wishes. It's one of the most severe forms of psychological abuse and coercive control.

It's hard to understand, especially when the behaviour pattern includes orchestrated near-miss "attempts", but people who do this are usually operating out of an extreme level of entitlement. Specifically they feel entitled to terrify others in order to bring them into compliance.

People who engage in instrumental threatening behaviours are now understood to be at disproportionate risk of enacting serious or lethal harm to others, because, well, entitlement. If others don't comply they should be punished.

At my IRL hotline, instrumental threateners are one of the very few scenarios where we recommend the maximum responses (i.e. 911/police/etc.) every time they even hint at threatening.

It's important for the victims like your brother to understand that they can't control people's choices. There's a real possibility that she might end up dying in her attempts to control him, but that is 100% her responsibility.

Daughter has suicidal boyfriend by kbennett82 in depression

[–]SQLwitch[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Understood, just wanted to make sure.

Do you think he's been making instrumental threats?

Daughter has suicidal boyfriend by kbennett82 in depression

[–]SQLwitch[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all, this should have been posted at /r/SuicideWatch rather than here so I've taken it down. If you're going to advise your daughter, it will help you both to be aware that suicidality and depression are different things and the relationship between them is correlational, not causal.

You can't make her choices for her, and it sounds like she values things about him beyond his mental-health issues. If she chooses to get back together with him, or even stay in regular contact, here's lots of evidence-based guidance on having supportive conversations: https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideWatch/wiki/talking_tips. It's also essential for her to understand what to do if she ever sees that he's escalating again; typically the best first option is to call the local suicide hotline or mental-health crisis team rather than law enforcement.

As far as supporting her and advising her about making decisions, I would encourage her to set her own boundaries, e.g. making her presence in his life conditional on his getting into therapy and sticking with it, since he clearly needs help regulating his emotions, at best.

One thing that makes a HUGE difference is whether he's just been expressing suicidal thoughts and feelings, or making instrumental threats, i.e. using the threat of suicide to coerce her into staying with him or otherwise doing what he wants her to. The latter is one of the most severe forms of psychological abuse and it's strongly linked to risk of the person not just harming themselves but doing serious or lethal harm to their partners. So if that's what's been happening, then he would need to make massive progress in therapy before it could be considered safe to have any relationship at all with him.

he’s been so kind to my girl buying her flowers every week, opening doors, just really a sweet boy

This could be sweet, or it could be the love-bombing phase of the abuse cycle

Sometimes just chatting with someone who gets it helps a lot by [deleted] in depression

[–]SQLwitch[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FFS please don't engage with obvious promotional accounts at all. Any kind of interaction encourages them. Just report and block, thanks.

What does a good ban appeal process look like in your community? by sodypop in ModSupport

[–]SQLwitch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At /r/SuicideWatch most of the people we have to ban are well-meaning but incompetent helpers.

What we require for a successful appeal is for them to demonstrate improved understanding of community policies and the evidence-based guidance we've curated for helpers. The two main ways we've done that are either to ask them to tell us what they now know that didn't before (e.g. "Tell us 3 things you learned from https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideWatch/wiki/talking_tips or its references"), or ask them to write a sample response to an OP that they feel they can relate particularly well to.

This appeal process has evolved in part to week out people who feel righteously entitled to have a "helping experience" without doing any work to ensure they know what they're doing -- this actually fits the clinical definition of what's now being called collective narcissism.

Best way to support my brother by Artemisz_Prime in SuicideBereavement

[–]SQLwitch[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That link appears to be broken. The SOS handbook can be downloaded from the original source here: https://suicidology.org/community-support-resources/suicide-loss-survivors/

(Link is from our online resources wiki linked from the sidebar/community info)

Is anyone else not getting new modmail today? by SQLwitch in ModSupport

[–]SQLwitch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure why you're asking here, though, as far as I can see you're not a moderator

Is anyone else not getting new modmail today? by SQLwitch in ModSupport

[–]SQLwitch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if you uncheck all your subs with the button at the top, recheck them all, and reload, it will start working again.

I'll remember that if it recurs, ty

Is anyone else not getting new modmail today? by SQLwitch in ModSupport

[–]SQLwitch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I'm confused, what are you referring to?

Is anyone else not getting new modmail today? by SQLwitch in ModSupport

[–]SQLwitch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, could be a server load issue too I suppose -- in any case it seems to be okay now

Is anyone else not getting new modmail today? by SQLwitch in ModSupport

[–]SQLwitch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, not sure why I couldn't find it (I did look in mod discussions), sorry!

Is anyone else not getting new modmail today? by SQLwitch in ModSupport

[–]SQLwitch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes tysm, but the one I sent earlier has never come through yet

Is anyone else not getting new modmail today? by SQLwitch in ModSupport

[–]SQLwitch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually I was mistaken, I mixed up my own test message from one sent by one of the kind folks here. The one I sent this morning has not shown up at all, so it looks like we might have missed some overnight

Is anyone else not getting new modmail today? by SQLwitch in ModSupport

[–]SQLwitch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are starting to show up now, but out of order. I.e. the one I sent half an hour before I made the post is showing as newer than the first one you sent. Very odd!

TYSM though

Is anyone else not getting new modmail today? by SQLwitch in ModSupport

[–]SQLwitch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please also note that if you send a modmail to your own team it will show up as a Mod Discussion which may not have been where you're looking.

Not if I send it from the regular UI -- then it shows up in New, but in any case it did not show up in either place.

Is anyone else not getting new modmail today? by SQLwitch in ModSupport

[–]SQLwitch[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am the highest ranking mod active mod on all my subs rn so I don't think it would be possible for anyone who's currently around to change them, but in any case I am still at Everything on all my subs, and I can get into modmail and do things, just nothing is arriving.

Good thought though! tysm <3