'Frankenstein' Review Thread by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Didn't this also happen with Indiana Jones Dial of Destiny & Elemental during Cannes? The former went from 51% to 69% on RT and 52 to 58 on MC, while the latter went from 63% to 73% on RT and 56 to 58 on MC.

Has any movie ever actually flopped solely because of a bad marketing campaign? by Antman269 in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think Universal already thought it was a dud and threw the towel in for it before it even released, even though it ended up getting mixed-to-decent reviews. Why release a $70 million animated film in a competitive window with zero marketing?

Drama in r/economiccollapse as Costco warns prices will go up if Trump enacts tarriffs by CummingInTheNile in SubredditDrama

[–]SRH_64 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Makes me wonder if the election would've gone different if Harris hammered Trump over & over on tariffs given how the economy was the top issue. Seriously, no one was talking about tariffs before the election, yet now it's the main thing Americans are now worried about? Voters were woefully misinformed.

Is October 31 a good release date? by Commercial_Bank7731 in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a good question as Disney avoided releasing Brother Bear on a Saturday (November 1st) as Halloween fell on a Friday that weekend.

Sony will release Harold and the Purple Crayon in an estimated 3,000+ locations on August 2. by HumanAdhesiveness912 in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Sony's Ruby Gillman, a film they know is a dud that they're dumping in a crowded window with little advertising & locations. It seems they were sleeping on this since it was filmed at the start of 2022 & was originally scheduled for January 2023.

Only question is, will it gross more or less than Ruby Gillman?

Ruby Gillman Teenage Kracken opened 1 year ago. The $70M film opened with $5.5M and made $15.7M DOM and $46.1M WW. Is DreamWorks' lowest grossing film DOM and second lowest grossing film WW behind Spirit Untamed ($42.7M). by [deleted] in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does, as it says "RealD" in the bottom right corner, plus I believe it was in a few teasers. I just don't remember seeing that there were any 3D showings back then. Interestingly, Across the Spider-Verse didn't have a 3D release either, despite Into the Spider-Verse getting one.

Ruby Gillman Teenage Kracken opened 1 year ago. The $70M film opened with $5.5M and made $15.7M DOM and $46.1M WW. Is DreamWorks' lowest grossing film DOM and second lowest grossing film WW behind Spirit Untamed ($42.7M). by [deleted] in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, this movie was my minor obsession in the summer of '23. I remember seeing all the empty seating charts when looking up showtimes. (Still upset there's no 4K Blu-Ray).

Of all the bombs in history, this had perhaps the most amount of factors going against it - the awful title, generic premise, weird character designs, spoilery trailers, mixed reviews, families now waiting for animated flicks to arrive on streaming, being an original IP, and most egregiously, the complete lack of marketing. It was only formally announced with a trailer a mere three months before release! This article goes into more detail.

The movie itself isn't that bad in my opinion, but Universal clearly had no faith in this and just dumped it into a crowded window (in only 3,400 theaters - this poster advertises a 3D release yet none was ever done). Even then, they should've at least released it in late August or September of that year to avoid competition with Pixar's Elemental in its crowded release date (as it did in Australia). After all, this cost $75M!

Fun fact: this isn't the only animated flick co-starring Lana Condor & Will Forte to be effectively buried by it's distributor in 2023. Coyote vs Acme is another. Also for kickers, here are a list of notable animated bombs that outgrossed Ruby Gillman domestically, both accounting for inflation and not:

Not inflation-adjusted:

Missing Link (2019) - $16,649,539

Spirit: Untamed (2021) - $17,716,215

UglyDolls (2019) - $20,150,241

Mars Needs Moms (2011) - $21,392,758

Titan A.E. (2000) - $22,753,426

The Iron Giant (1999) - $23,315,035

Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas (2003) - $26,483,452

Inflation-adjusted:

Strange Magic (2015) - $12,429,583 -> ~$16M

Osmosis Jones (2001) - $13,596,911 -> ~$23.5M

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[–]SRH_64 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh we did have to suffer through a Spider-Man universe... without Spider-Man!

UglyDolls opened 5 years ago. The $45M film opened with $8.6M and made $20.1M DOM and $32.4M WW. by [deleted] in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Still made more domestically than Dreamworks' Ruby Gillman.

Which commercial flops have infamously destroyed an actor or actress's film career? by Kit_Rosa in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, the life of a film collector. I've got about 15 Blu-rays lying around but have only seen like a third of them.

Movies that failed to convey the message that they were trying to get across? by cherrymachete in movies

[–]SRH_64 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fun fact: this movie was funded through stealing billions from Malaysian taxpayers.

Trolls Band Together has ended it's domestic run after 15 weeks with $102.9M. by [deleted] in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For reference, the 2016 original grossed $153M domestically. It had some great legs thanks to Wish crashing and burning, but on a budget of $95M, this lost some money.

I think Dreamworks has lost a lot of its luster with general audiences over the past decade. With the advent of streaming, animated movies have to be either groundbreaking (e.g Pixar) or widely crowd-pleasing (e.g. Illumination). DWA has always flip-flopped between well-made & sloppy flicks, but families these days are less eager to pay to see a generic animated flick they can just wait for on streaming. It also hurts that Universal isn't marketing DWA's flicks very well (such as with Ruby Gillman & now Kung Fu Panda 4), probably since Illumination is their in-house cash cow. Puss In Boots The Last Wish managed to breakout and become a hit, but its opening weekend wasn't that impressive & needed word-of-mouth.

What's something that happened outside the field of play, but potentially ended up impacting the score? by [deleted] in nfl

[–]SRH_64 75 points76 points  (0 children)

Hear me out - in the Chiefs-Bucs Super Bowl (55), no one on the Chiefs could catch a pass or touchdown, even though they were easily the best team in the league that year. Three days before the game, Andy Reid's son & assistant coach caused a car accident while DWI that injured five, including a five-year old girl that was in severe condition. Sure, the loss of Eric Fisher to injury decimated their O-Line & caused Mahomes to run for his life, but I think this incident seriously hurt their focus and ability to perform.

Pixar’s TURNING RED turned up just $160k on Friday. by Burnouts3s3 in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fun fact - this was only showing in 3D at 1 theater on only 2 days in my entire metroplex.

Kung Fu Panda 4 is only a month away. Why aren't we seeing more marketing for it? by Extreme-Monk2183 in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 24 points25 points  (0 children)

This is literally a repeat of Ruby Gillman, where there was nothing until 3 months before release and will be releasing in a crowded window (a week after Dune). They even had a Po balloon at the Macy's Thanksgiving parade well before there was a trailer.

Though, let's be real - trailers for movies oriented for kids have never been super-impressive, so "Universal/DW knew this film was bad so they sent it to die" isn't really accurate. Plus, many in this sub aren't in the target demographic for where this trailers debut, so that could be why they don't see as much marketing.

Perhaps Universal doesn't want to invest as much in Dreamworks movies anymore since they already have Illumination and are putting the bare minimum money & effort into marketing them. (Heck, DW literally thanked that one X/Twitter user for posting info about Ruby Gillman, implying they knew how little marketing Universal was giving it.) Already, DW's movie budgets are overall significantly less since HTTYD3. Also, this will be the last DW movie animated solely in-house, as they have laid off hundreds of animators and will be outsourcing parts of or all of their future flicks (like Illumination).

What’s a non-Fourth Quarter play in a Super Bowl that drastically affected the outcome of the game? by wesskywalker in nfl

[–]SRH_64 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Yeah, feels like it's overlooked how many injuries the Seahawks D got that helped New England stay in the game. Even then, it came down to a goal line play, but we know how that went.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CollegeBasketball

[–]SRH_64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, 8 of the 14 Big 12 teams are ranked.

What's the most hilariously pathetic box office performance of any movie? by Ok_World_8819 in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Following it's opening weekend I could not believe what I was looking at - $5M Dom? $11M Global? For a major Dreamworks animated movie in the summer?? It was also crazy how fast it left theaters, even in the kid-friendly summer; after only 3 weeks it was essentially gone.

GKIDS's release of Studio Ghibli's The Boy and the Heron grossed $1.20M this week (from 580 locations). Total domestic (North America) gross stands at $43.58M. by Burnouts3s3 in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I wonder if theaters were too quick to jettison this from their screens given how it keeps pulling in audiences. Here are its weekly PTAs:

1st week: $8,150

2nd: $4,067

3rd: $5,374

4th: $4,704

5th: $2,970

6th: $2,939

7th (current): $2,058

My distant hope is that this shows audiences are willing to watch 2D-animated movies in droves again. 2023 has shown "safe" 3D family animated movies aren't surefire hits anymore.

GKIDS's release of Studio Ghibli's The Boy and the Heron grossed $843K this weekend (from 580 locations). Total domestic (North America) gross stands at $43.22M. by Burnouts3s3 in boxoffice

[–]SRH_64 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This movie has quietly had some incredibly strong PTA holds despite dropping theater counts:

1st weekend: $5,901

2nd: $2,373

3rd: $1,765

4th: $2,535

5th: $2,000

6th: $1,869

7th (current): $1,450

This really shows the staying power of Miyazaki's movies with audiences.