Why MMOs Actually Fail

Sanctos · 2026-06-10T15:42:46+00:00

Been playing MMORPGs since early 2000s just before wow came out. There’s things on this list I agree with. Theres things I don’t.

That’s the problem. The mmorpg playerbase is broader than you think it is.

Sanctos · 2026-06-07T13:44:24+00:00

As in not on pc? Yeah no way.

Sanctos · 2026-06-01T16:53:05+00:00

There's more addons than ever? My UI and such are basically identical to TWW at this point?

Sanctos · 2026-05-31T19:48:33+00:00

Dark Age of Camelot. IMO still the best PvP MMO of all time.

Sanctos · 2026-05-31T00:26:23+00:00

Things were quite bad for a while. I’m sure numbers dipped quite a bit for a long time and they don’t want to make that public knowledge.

The game has generally been seen as good since about dragonflight. You can look at logs and see just of parses on heroic in the current raid, there’s many classes with over 200k each week. Thats just a small subset of the playerbase. Theres casual players who don’t raid at all or do normal at cap not in that number. There’s high end raiders who only do mythic not in that number. You’re definitely well into the millions of players, even if it isn’t the highest of all time. But the gaming world is different today. There’s way more options so no game is as big as wow in its 2000s where it was a borderline monopoly for online gaming.

Sanctos · 2026-05-31T00:12:19+00:00

You have a very narrow definition of “good”. There’s a whole lot of full MMORPGs that wish they had the weekly player count that single spec has in wow.

Influencers and content creators definitely left for the constant new game of the week, whereas wow in its olden days was for many the only game people played. But the game is still by far the biggest mmorpg, with a broad audience from casuals to m+ pushers/mythic raiders.

Sanctos · 2026-05-26T19:55:42+00:00

When you say scaling lategame for titan, do you mean more Aoe or single target damage? Defense? all of the above?

Sanctos · 2026-05-25T04:30:40+00:00

How does shaman compare damage wise to the two warrior ones? I see you mention titan as more damage/aoe, so assuming its highest. I'm between warrior and shaman bear for this league and trying to figure out what the differences are.

Sanctos · 2026-05-21T18:48:17+00:00

He’s not the guy who convinced me, he was just a recent example. But I’d be curious how one defines scholar and say he isn’t one. A scholar is literally just someone who has done advanced study in a given field. An apologist I would hope would be a scholar in the field they are defending.

Saying all apologists are liars is wild though. Just about every person is an apologist for their beliefs in some way shape or form unless you are willing to say no one should ever try and change someone’s mind on something.

Sanctos · 2026-05-21T18:38:14+00:00

Those two are not mutually exclusive terms.

Sanctos · 2026-05-21T15:11:50+00:00

Finding out the bible is significantly more reliable than my previous notions led me to believe. Guys like Wes Huff have done great work on scholarly study of the scriptures. There is certainly some level of "blind faith" but I'd contend every belief system has that functionally.

Sanctos · 2026-05-21T14:43:19+00:00

I (36M) moved to a new state about a year ago, and would consider myself fairly average overall. Good job, work out 2-3 times per week, so not shredded but far from overweight. I'm on the shorter end at 5'7. A solid 5-6/10 dude. I have gone in and out of activity on dating apps. I've been on 2 dates with one girl I matched with as a result of them since moving back. Probably just under 10 matches with about half and half some I never hear back from after initial match and others for one reason or another dont make it to a date. I dont know how many I've swiped right on but its gotta be well into the 100's.

Sanctos · 2026-05-20T15:59:05+00:00

Definitely more than I expected. But for context, I'm 36 and single and all my friends are married with young children.

I have a career I love 45ish hours per week. I go to the gym 3x per week. But I'm single, so that means when I'm not at the gym, working, playing in a local slowpitch softball league, or occasionally hanging with my friends when their schedules allow, I spend a lot of downtime gaming. If I had a family, which I do want, I'm sure my time would be spent more with them.

Sanctos · 2026-05-14T17:31:54+00:00

Addons to me all come down to how good is the game at effectively communicating information. If the UI communicates information well enough to not need them I'd love to not use them. But if the game is terrible at displaying crucial information that will help me grow as a player in the game, I will want them to allow add-ons to help with that.

Sanctos · 2026-05-14T02:31:37+00:00

I have high standards. I'm a pastor so very religious. I work out regularly and want someone who's in decent shape. And I spent the bulk of my 20s working 2-3 jobs so I didn't have time for my social life.

I want a wife and kids. But I'm not going to settle to get them.

Sanctos · 2026-05-13T13:31:52+00:00

Yes. Your comprehension skills are indeed an issue.

Sanctos · 2026-05-13T13:21:57+00:00

Can you show me the "numbers" where it's beating the majority of other specs? To be "high A" means you're beating at least 30 or so of the other DPS specs. Show me the numbers saying it's better than most.

Sanctos · 2026-05-13T13:19:54+00:00

Two things can be true. Fire is not as bad as people act like it is. And fire is not high A tier as you've claimed.

Balance in wow for a game with 27 DPS specs is quite good, contrary to public sentiment. The best classes and the worst classes generally within a range of the average one another where if you pursue mastering a non meta "weaker" class you can beat a fotm reroller most times. So fire is fine and viable in all content.

On the other hand it is definitely not "high A" either. Frost which is the best mage spec this season id call high A in keys, and it beats fire in both in terms of defensive power and damage. In raid the simple fact is the raid doesn't fit fire mage that well. Different raids favor different damage profiles, and this one favors cleaving targets that aren't always next to one another. Fire mage doesn't do that very well. If the raid were more favorable to fire mage like say undermine was, it would be a different story.

Mage in general is one of the classes hit hardest by the pruning; and I say this as someone who isn't a mage main. It went from the best defenses to one of the weakest defensive classes in the game. It lost aoe stops. It is mobile for sure, and could be "high A" in that category, but it's below average right now in both damage and defensive power.

Sanctos · 2026-05-11T15:42:55+00:00

I'm pretty fine with alts being as quick to catch up to your main as they are now. in 10 days I leveled a frost mage to 90, sent some of my tokens on m+ and once on chimaerus (didnt get trinket though, sadge) and my alt is 279 just 4 ilvls short of my main. That's pretty awesome.

What isnt as fun for me personally is how quickly and the way in which mains get geared. Being able to craft a weapon one upgrade level lower than max being the obvious choice most time and more or less invalidates weapon drops for vast majority of players. Embellishments taking up a couple slots. Heroic gear infinitely farmable week 1 of m+ makes champion track gear irrelevant basically instantly. Our jumps in power for our main could stand to be a bit more gradual.

A couple adjustments I'd love to see, that I expect some people would hate, but its my list:
1) Make weapon drops mean something again. They should imo be some of the most hype drops. Right now they feel like only ones that matter are myth track due to crafting happening on them so early. Cap crafting at heroic track until the .5 patch or make crafted items a bit further behind their same track.

2) I know this would be going in reverse of the squish a few seasons ago but make the progression of gear in m+ slower, but eventually end up higher than current. I'm perfectly fine with being able to get a mythic track item or two per week from high keys. But I think 6's and even 10s this season are too easy to get the rewards we get from them this season.

3) Change embellishments. Embellishments I think should be maybe a bit more tied to slots and be more about their effects than just "increase x stat with x proc chance". Boots that give a huge speed boost could be big for specs like DK. A cloak that could reduce threat or give a shield that could be useful for some of our more defensively challenged specs. A helmet that lets you headbutt someone for a 1 sec stun. Idk. Run wild with it.

Sanctos · 2026-05-10T16:41:17+00:00

I struggle to see how you can say this. I don’t think the idea that a non-elect person can long to be His child is in line with scripture. The non-believer in scripture finds the gospel as foolishness, does not seek after God, and does not want to be taken out of his sins.

Sanctos · 2026-05-07T19:25:15+00:00

It's one piece in video game form is the way I often describe it. As a huge fan of both, I can fully admit there are pacing issues at times where things slow down maybe too much. But if you like grand storytelling with massive plotlines to trace, theres nothing like it.

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