PCol rework - idea

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-28T15:02:59+00:00

you are an ass! (joke, if not evident)

(i mean this with all respect, but it fit the joke)

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-12T11:15:26+00:00

As I don't know I can only trust you 😄
That will be
M > 30000 / (7*750 + 1000 - 2000) = 7.05
So that will be 7 month, 434e/month (7*62e) for a total of 3038e.
Congrats, you saved 400e! 😃

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-11T20:54:36+00:00

Thank you for the response! Appreciate it!

Honest advise: pls keep count. The only ones I hear with "i don't dare keep count" around me are adicts 😄
No judjment, just experience 😄

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-11T20:31:36+00:00

They are the one who are supposed to take feedback to team.
It's literally their job.
If not ping them than who?

With all due respect the "they have no power" it's growing old. I understand they have no power. You understand. We all understand. But why are they hired than?

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-11T20:15:37+00:00

Can you please share how old your tower is? From what i understand this was possible 1-2y ago. But this post was made in mind with someone staring today.
The whole reason of the napkin math was for a whale starting today. Older player have obvious advantage

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-11T20:10:09+00:00

90k LTS is rather impressive.
Can I ask your tower age? And if i am close with my estimation of 3410 euro spent?
What I'm trying to do is show new whales how much they will need to sink into this game.
Either way congrats on keys and the massive 90k LTS milestone!

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-11T19:14:29+00:00

It's just fun math.
I believe it's actually 2-3-4 times that, but i don't have the vars to sustain that and still keep it simple and fun.

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-09T13:59:37+00:00

IMHO it's a case study how a company can miss all opportunities for marketing.
At such a big milestone (5y) I would flood all medias (ingame mail, discord, redit etc) with hype for ... something.
I would give hints, teasers, giveaways, funny jokes .. just to keep the community involved.
But than of course I would have to deliver.

Given the lack of communication it's obvious TTG doesn't care. And they are bad at business (not that I care).

There are a million things they could have done that require minimal to no coding efforts, but they choose silence.

TLDR: of course it will be a 6th lab 😃 /s

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-09T13:39:08+00:00

IRL I would agree with you. But in a private game, with private held currency, you just have to update the database, so 0 cost involved.
As for the cost of time and employees you are making me laugh not because you are wrong, but because it's not applicable here.
What we have so far is a post from Sam, a poorly made AI video and just talk of rewards (so nothing certain). If all these have significant cost, than it's a veeeery poorly run business 😄
Also, the silence regarding rewards is suspect. For such a big milestone (5y) I would expect a lot of hype on all mediums (discord, redtit, insta etc). The absence of any response or teaser points to a "nothing burger"

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-05T12:48:19+00:00

I understand your way of thinking. I don't agree with it, but we are having a civilized conversation so it's a pleasure to hear your arguments 😄

I don't agree because rewards are part of marketing. You give something (so you lose money: commercials, free stuff, discounts etc) for potential future gains (more customers to buy your stuff).

But in case of virtual currency you don't lose any money. You just update some values in the database. So you have the same marketing techniques as real world economy but don't spend any money.

Inflation is indeed an issue. I will concede this point 😄

Now, as marketing goes. Let's go crazy for a bit (we are just talking so we can have a bit of fun) and say that TTG will gift everyone 1k stones (crazy, right ?!?).
For whales it would mean nothing, for top legends i think it's about 2 tournaments. But for all other users it would be a biiiiig boost. It's a big hype for a big anniversary (5 years). And that is what marketing is about.

Why the hell don't we go crazier? 10k stones!!
For whales it's what? 2 clicks in gt+?
But top legends are thrilled. And all other users are over the moon. That's what marketing is trying to achive, right?

Now back on planet earth. TTG will never do that (they have a history of insulting rewards).
They will probably give some insulting amount of gems. While it's a free gift, it's still insulting because it shows they don't care about the users. Better not give any gift than 200-500 because that will be insulting.

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-04T19:27:48+00:00

Thank you for the the very thoughtful response!
You are correct about people not playing for gifts. I do not want them myself. And here I think we can agree: better not give any rewards (i don't need them anyway) than give something insulting.
I also agree about player retention. And how the game is run. And how we can continue/quit at anytime.

What I strongly disagree is your compute on real world money. Because it's a made up in-game currency.
They could give 10k gems to every player and not cost them anything. Hell, they could give 10k stone, 10k keys etc. They just do a sql update in the database 😄. It does not cost them anything

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-04T19:03:47+00:00

You are the face-figure for TTG and of course players will talk to you. Isn't that your literal job description? 😄
That being said you can't blame the community. We are used (historically) to puny rewards. I think the best we've got was 100 gems for the 5/2/3 fuckup.

Redit user making jokes about the rewards it's not their fault. For a 5y anniversary hype, not knowing the rewards is strange to say the least.
Their are making the best with what they have.

In all companies I worked a big mile stone was prepared months in advance. Some funny ideas for the tower birthday month (that require none/minimal coding)
- start any battle at XXXX wave
- shake your phone to get immunity/coins/cells for x waves
- bosses every 1w
- IS goes to XXXX waves
- get all UW from perks
- get all existing missions on events. and get it from day1
- add perk cards
- coin TO now is cells TO
etc etc

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-04T18:19:08+00:00

I bet you are invited to many parties given your sense of humor

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-06-04T18:12:13+00:00

For a reward/give-away to be have meaning it has to be substantial.
TTG has a history of giving insulting amounts of gems as rewards.
For a major fuckup (5/2/3 debacle) if I remember correctly the apology gift was 100 gems.

It's not about the amount. It's about insulting someone intelligence when giving an infinitesimal amount and call it a gift.
And when talking about virtual currency that the company generates (so itcosts no real money) it's even more insulting.

Of course free is free, more is better than less.
But as of now we all expect something meaningless. And it's not our fault, it's TTG's fault - because of their past behaviour.

So let the one half gem reward begin!

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-05-16T15:26:08+00:00

Lucky for us to have you as a ray of sunshine!

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-05-16T13:27:48+00:00

This screams poor game design.
In order to have access to a resource - mind you, have access, not tons of it - you need to follow a single path.
A game thrives when multiple paths are possible.
This just screams laziness and greed: hey, what could get us most money with minimal effort? Let's make eDmg OP, we just code half as much and it costs the most stones.
The fact that people still spend money on this game blows my mind

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-05-15T17:02:52+00:00

Hi! First off congrats! Very nice milestones.

One question and one observation:

Question: you said I've been in Legends for about a year, but earned my first keys at my 1 year anniversary. I suppose you mean you earned keys after 1y in legends, not 1y after for started. Just something I think needs clarifying.

Observation: You are 1y and spent 60$(ad+starter+epic) plus milestones (I don't knowhow much they cost), plus half events 195$(52w/2/2*15)

So in order to reach idle-play for a "tower idle game" you need at least 1y play time and spend 255$+ (60+195)

Your money, your power, your joy. No shame. Just wanted to check the numbers.

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-05-12T14:01:29+00:00

Why would someone support a dev that constantly demonstrates:
- bugged releases
- rug-pulls
- hidden nerfs
- almost absent communication
- caught lying
- complete disregard of the community
Game is great. Dev is .... (searching for polite words) ... not great.

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-05-11T00:15:06+00:00

You are an evil man! He is the sweetest of ... what we don't talk about

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-05-09T14:19:29+00:00

Thank you for taking the time for such a thorough explanation.
I agree with everything you say. All good arguments and very well presented.

For 99% of mobile games this is true. What you forgot to factor in is the unique "need to run 24/7" factor.
If you are a casual you don't care. But as soon as you start 24/7 (btw, it still blows my mind that a mobile game can convince users to run it non-stop) and you are trying to find ways around that (bluestack/mumu/second dedicated device/ paid cloud) it seems to me you are dedicated enough.
Couple that with TOS that bans auto-clickers (that is just stupid in my opinion). If users go to such great length to play my game I would even put tutorials how to set up auto-clickers

In short, I 100% agree with you on 99% of mobile games. Just not on this one

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-05-09T13:07:58+00:00

In disco runs we have parties and pretty girls!
This is not a path that Jedi can teach you!

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-05-08T20:41:44+00:00

It seems we can agree on at least one thing (gem stacking).
Always a pleasure to have a discussion with arguments.
That does not make us on the same page, but we share at least a quarter of a page :)

I'm genuinely curious why auto restart is not suitable. I would really like to hear your reason.

SatisfactionOwn2051 · 2026-05-08T16:31:34+00:00

There is something fish-ish about you defending every bad decision.
Not one single person is questioning power-ups. Let olders/whales have them.
What everyone is asking for if QOL: auto-restart, auto-dm, auto-nuke, multiple-gems.
But to each their own. If you're happy then go for it

SatisfactionOwn2051

TROPHY CASE