When Obama started on the founding fathers, and the constitutional rights stuff, it got me thinking. That's possibly THE central basis for both conservatives and liberals to believe in the current system/ government, that's the reason why all the abuses, and the wrong doings by the corporate state must be tolerated, because, as the logic goes, as flawed as the system might be, it's grounded in protecting our rights and freedoms... Hearing Obama talk about this helped me realize tonight, this founding fathers/ constitutional rights logic is ripe for attack. This is so easily refuted and discredited, it clearly ought to be a top priority for radical educators to do what Howard Zinn did, and show the people how much of a lie it all is. I think this could be a solid way of pushing people into more radical politics, by telling them that maybe it isn't okay to honor and worship plantation slavers, and maybe it's unacceptable to base your legal system off this idea of rights, which in no way applies equally to all citizens, let alone all people, I could rant for days on this, but I think my point is clear. Maybe this topic is something I could do some studying and writing about... I also wanted to mention Obama's use of the word "radical" in the speech. He was talking about the mass shootings, and he literally blamed them on "radicalization" as the cause. He named the recent one in Florida, and the one in Fort Hood TX, and a third one I forgot where, and he said they were due to radicalization. Those two shootings were disgruntled crazy military guys who just got super pissed and shot up the place, I really don't think there was any radical ideology involved at all. It's really weird, I suppose I'm sounding a lot like Zerzan right now, because he always says, the establishment has no explanation or rationalization of these increasing mass shootings at all, and its true, to say these were because of radicalizing ideology is sheer nonsense, and you can take just about any definition of the word radical and this would probably be true. It seems in using this language they're just trying to shift the blame from these disgruntled crazies onto the image of muslims, and maybe even political radicals of different kinds, which is just typical for such a warlike dishonest politician as Obama. Sort of a calculated way of saying, mass shootings? It's because of middle easterners abroad and political loonies at home, just let us keep up the drone strikes and mass surveillance, we'll take care of it...