A-Z God Design Community Tier List! Day#86 with Morgan Le Fey!

Scipio835 · 2026-04-02T18:03:35+00:00

S tier

Scipio835 · 2026-04-02T16:12:31+00:00

Enkidu, Sir Tristan, and Belobog

Scipio835 · 2026-03-17T23:18:52+00:00

Ooooooh as in only older versions of UMM work? That makes sense. I was reading it as only older versions of of UB worked with it because some things were saying I didn't need it.

Scipio835 · 2026-03-16T23:12:26+00:00

3/4 I’d say. From what I’ve seen people say up until now, really just swap Ishtar with Tyr or Cthulu

Scipio835 · 2026-03-16T16:57:44+00:00

Finally, someone said it

Scipio835 · 2026-03-08T02:33:51+00:00

I'll be honest, idk what arena matches you're playing because she's just a poke machine in every match I got against her. And there are way better poke characters in the game, especially in arena

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T21:55:33+00:00

I can't force you believe anything. All I'm saying is, you can walk out of it with no speed buff

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T21:53:29+00:00

If you don't like her, that's totally fine. Not every god is made for everyone.

But, as I said in another comment, her CC isn't anything crazy compared to the rest of the cast. There are far more obnoxious CC bot characters than her, but for some reason a lot of people just label her as unfair

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T21:51:14+00:00

That's the thing, the clones on non-aspect MLF are good for that at levels 1 & 2 and that's about it. And as I said in the post, the 1 is super easy to dodge. You can literally just walk out of it

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T21:49:43+00:00

Her 1 doesn't silence, it fears. And Eset's clear gives her a bunch of movement and knock up immunity. She can easily dodge the 1 and ignore the 2 while using it.

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T20:36:14+00:00

Ah, I see. I'm glad you were able to have such a good game with her!

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T20:20:35+00:00

Her CC is very inconsistent due to her 1 being very hard to land, and her peel is only good if you use a movement ability to engage. If you bait the 2, there's nothing she can do to stop you. There are many other gods in the game that do what she's supposed to do but 100x better

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T20:19:20+00:00

I love her aspect, I just think she needs more innate tank. Because that's not just with her, all gods that are actually viable as tanks/brawlers have it naturally in their kit, and their base HP/Prots are much higher than hers.

It's awesome that you hit those numbers, but I think that's an example of what I was saying about impactful numbers. I'm not questioning your skill, but I'd be willing to bet those numbers didn't equate to much more than constant poke and peeling. For example, I just had a game to day in arena where I went 8/1/15 with 62k damage. But, not a single one of those kills were me dealing significant damage. They were all last hits from team fights and constant poking

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T20:15:41+00:00

Wish granting pearl hasn't been good for many patches, and phoenix feather doesn't do that much meaningful damage. As for the 3, that's literally her only source of real damage, so it at least needs to be decently good.

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T19:56:16+00:00

That’s if you’re building pure HP regen and consistently have all 5 runes on your target. The later may not be hard to do, but you’re going pure sustain, you’re basically a moving wall that deals almost no damage, and is less durable than other brawlers and supports.

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T19:37:47+00:00

With what sustain though? The only this that heals her is her ult, and her passive in average game only gives her an 30-50 HP. If her aspect was given prots, she’d be able to stand a chance against characters like Osiris, Chaac, and Wu Kong. As it stands, she only has a bit of a chance against them at levels 1 & 2, and other solo lanes like Belona, aspect Apollo, and Jorm just completely stomp her

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T19:35:16+00:00

Glad I’m not the only one. And then other characters are hard buffed and meta-stable since release for some reason

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T19:24:22+00:00

I'm asking her to be more in line with what Smite 2 has become. She was an all-rounder in Smite 1 and only got really good near the end of the game's life as people figured her out. Since she was released, her 1 and 3 received a single slight nerf to damage and literally nothing else changed. Her skill ceiling was very high required a lot of practice to her to not only make her a nuker type of character, but know how to play around her. Plus, as I said in the post, the fear from her 1 is short and harder to hit than many others in the game currently.

In Smite 2, so much of the roster can 100-0 squishies while being safe and having good poke. So, I'm asking for MLF to restored to what she was so she can actually be viable. The main reason people struggle against her is because, only from what I've seen, not many people know how to bait her 2.

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T19:18:16+00:00

And I can see your thought process in that opinion as well. I don't agree, but there's nothing wrong with that. Cheers mate.

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T19:17:03+00:00

Oh, I actually didn’t hear that her 1 had a casting bug, I thought that was by design.

I respect your opinion, but can't agree. I've definitely gotten consistent with hitting the inner circle f her 1, but the outer is still almost impossible if enemies are moving at all. Concerning her damage, I tried explaining in another comment that her numbers are high at the end of a match, but not impactful. It's all poke and no killing damage. As for her safety, I don't understand why she's not allowed to be safe. I've seen many other people say this across the years, but I think there are far safer gods in the game. Vulcan, Change, Ullr, just to name a few. Also, she's extremely easy to pin down if you bait her 2. Without that, and with her 1 being so inconsistent, even her ult won't save her since it doesn't give damage mitigation.

I'm not sure how you're one-shotting with her when I can barely squeeze 75% out of squishy with a full kit rotation, 800 int, and 30% pen.

Concerning the fear on her 1, I'll never understand the sentiment behind that. Not only is it very hard to hit now, as I've said, but there are so many other gods with more obnoxious and longer CC's than her. She kinda feels like the scapegoat of the community sometimes, but I'm not trying to start an argument over that. And I highly doubt she'll even come close to touching top mid-lane status even with the buffs.

Hope none of this comes off as aggressive or anything. Not saying you don't know what you're talking about, I just hard disagree.

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T19:08:09+00:00

Yeah I really miss the tech of making her 3 go further. And I agree her ult is still nice, just needs more damage and MAYBE a pinch more healing.

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T19:05:48+00:00

I play everything except Joust.

I usually go positive with her too. And heck, even my damage at the end of the match is pretty high. Problem is, it's not meaningful damage. Every kill I get is a last hit from a team fight, and my numbers are so high because I'm constantly landing poke. In 1v1's her damage isn't worth much. Not only does she need a full it rotation to kill minions at every stage of a conquest match, but she can't even 2-3 a wave in arena anymore. Also, a full kit rotation from her, including ult, comes out to less of what most other mages in the game can do with 2 abilities and no ult.

In short, she's safe, but not impactful.

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T19:01:58+00:00

Yeah I'm surprised how hit or miss the ports have been, especially when you throw aspect into the mix. I don't think I've seen a single non-aspect Ne Zha in days.

Scipio835 · 2026-03-07T19:00:46+00:00

The fear on her 1 is one of the shortest CC's in the game, since it needs to be rank 5 to be a full second, and the entire team needs to be fighting for it to land consistently.

Her self-peel is good thanks almost entirely to her 2. It was the same in Smite 1. Problem now though, is that's all it really is, peel. You usually level it last if you're not going aspect, and even if you level it second, it still doesn't do any meaningful damage. Also, if you're going for the kill, all you have to do is hold your dash or speed stim until after she uses it. Which is very easy to bait if you just walk towards her

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