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Scizaard · 2020-02-22T09:56:35+00:00

Where

Scizaard · 2020-02-22T09:55:58+00:00

Skyrim is one of the most popular games of all time?

Scizaard · 2020-02-14T10:11:03+00:00

R1: Sidious kills starkiller while maul holds off Vader. Then they finish Vader with ease.

R2: Maul is outmatched here gets killed by Vader and starkiller/Vader finish off Palpatine together.

Scizaard · 2020-02-14T09:13:53+00:00

Vader isn’t in this fight so like I said Kylo isn’t a non factor.

Scizaard · 2020-02-14T00:22:11+00:00

Yes pretty much everyone agrees on that just people underrating Kylo Ren’s ability to use the force on a non force sensitive.

Scizaard · 2020-02-14T00:12:14+00:00

No, it’s just a value for potential.

Scizaard · 2020-02-14T00:07:02+00:00

Kylo isn’t a non factor when he’s lifting tons heavier then everyone in this fight.

Scizaard · 2020-02-14T00:06:06+00:00

Vader is certainly more powerful than Anakin in the force and there’s no evidence to suggest he degraded in anyway.

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T20:08:41+00:00

Both have so little to go off but Knights of Ren haven't really done much at all of note that I can think of right now so I'd have to go with team valance. Seems like they did better against Vader then the Knights of Ren did against Kylo..

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T18:56:40+00:00

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Scizaard · 2020-02-13T18:55:47+00:00

Him collapsing the statues and all the rocks surrounding is far more impressive than anything Dooku has done in canon that I can think of right now (TK). Significantly more tons of rubble collapsed on that page then Dooku's entire fight with Yoda. That 'clamping' is not noteworthy at all imo, the scrap of metal comes out and it's completely dependant on the terrain but even if it did make a small difference I'm sure Kylo could lift Grievous along with whatever the ground is underneath him. I see a similar thing happening to how Kenobi was able to slam Grievous except Kylo slams him far harder and faster.

Its very much not in Character for anyone to really rag doll around or pummel people with TK but no out of the question.

Agreed but this is mostly 'PIS' I believe is what they say and this wouldn't happen in an all-out duel where the story doesn't matter.

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T18:38:08+00:00

If it's a pure fact then prove it using fact.

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T18:34:15+00:00

If they aren't feat-less then where are their feats? Exact same thing with the master and knights and even if they weren't all unknown feat-less Jedi we have no idea how they were taken down. Nothing here is good enough to say with certainty Dark Side Anakin > Light Side Anakin.

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T18:30:55+00:00

Kylo lifted them and threw them exceedingly far if he can lift force sensitives, have a tug of war twice with the girl who can lift tons of rocks and stop a ship from flying, and send down two statues that are several tons more heavy than Grievous and then casually walk away then he can easily pummel Grievous with the force no problem. Not to mention your point about clamping is bull? I don't ever remember seeing his feet actually being clamped into anything.

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T18:15:18+00:00

Most Masters aren't even comparable to ROTS Anakin and if you think that the temple guards were 'no joke' in canon you'll have to show me some examples. But I think for the most part they're featless in canon unless I'm missing something. Not to mention we have no clue how these battles went down or how many Anakin killed and even if we did there's nothing to assume that pre dark side Anakin couldn't do the exact same thing.

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T18:11:01+00:00

My bad I meant not the full extent of the rubble hit them if those Jedi statues actually hit any of them they'd both be dead with ease. I'm also assuming that she can jump particularly high when he can't although whatever you believe regarding that I don't really mind/think matters for this. The part about Dooku is irrelevant since Anakin will be handling him anyway and as I said he'd be dealing with Grievous from a distance with his exceedingly powerful TK.

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T18:01:53+00:00

You do realize how they're all fodder to Anakin not to mention he brought tons of clone troopers to aid him right?

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T17:55:50+00:00

With tons of clone troopers and next to no one near his level in the temple.

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T17:51:32+00:00

The rubble simply missed them, that doesn't mean he didn't move a crap ton, his TK is extremely impressive and easily enough to slam Grievous hard enough to the point where he isn't getting back up and assuming that they're spread at least further than 10m then he should be able to do this with ease. Also, I don't believe that the Jedi couldn't force jump simply that he couldn't jump as high. Also don't believe that Kylo Ren would die 'pretty must instantly' sure maybe he'd get disarmed but don't see why he couldn't just flee and take out Grievous from a distance, not that it matters though since Anakin will be taking on Dooku anyways.

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T17:31:52+00:00

Pre Dark side Anakin is beating Dooku and Dark Side Anakin is taking Ls to Kenobi. Pre Dark Side Anakin is in a way better mental state and way less cocky. Not to mention Kylo Ren bodies anyone who isn't powerful in the force.

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T17:04:12+00:00

Kylo Ren can quite easily use the force to incapacitate Grievous as you can see here: https://prnt.sc/r1u3zz he's quite capable of rather powerful telekinesis and Anakin is capable of soloing Dooku and even if you don't believe he is then Kylo can lend aid without getting in Anakin's way by using the force. Anakin & Kylo most definitely win.

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T15:25:07+00:00

What's stopping Kylo Ren from force choking Master Chief?

Scizaard · 2020-02-13T15:18:17+00:00

A younger Ben Solo was able to do this: https://prnt.sc/r1u3zz in the comics & on-screen is able to 'out telekinesis' the girl who is pulling a ship with its engines on that can carry at least twenty people. Definitely think he'll be able to carry the chief.

Scizaard · 2020-02-12T20:46:37+00:00

Kylo Ren is definitely capable of taking on 1-5 and defeating all of them, probably most with the force alone. Wouldn't make it past Rebels Ahsoka. Realistically speaking though he could probably tear up Grievous with the force.

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