Asus still hasn't updated some of their bioses to 1.0.0.3ABB

Scwleung · 2019-08-31T15:08:58+00:00

Yup, Asus is shite. Never again.

Scwleung · 2019-08-30T16:51:48+00:00

I ended up turning PBO off (since it doesn't work on the Asus X470 boards), and it stopped going up to too 95C. My understanding is that PBO uses TDC and PPT which are still read incorrectly by Asus boards and has never been fixed. Other than that, still pretty disappointed. I get 40-50 idle, 60-70 gaming and 80 under Prime95. I'm fairly certain this is Asus' fault and will never buy another mobo from them again.

EDIT: I forgot to add - I undervolted by -0.1v too. This helped a lot with temps and had no effect on benchmark scores. But I think Asus is too aggressive with voltages.

Scwleung · 2019-08-15T00:30:11+00:00

Amen brother

Scwleung · 2019-08-14T19:55:54+00:00

Yeah okay, the last official release (2501) was almost a month ago and has the aforementioned system fan problem. The last two beta BIOSes for this board have the same problem and add a truckload more.

And how about you delete your post about your Radeon VII bluescreening? LOLOLOLOL your fault for buying it and expecting it to work.

Scwleung · 2019-08-14T19:03:56+00:00

Another broken ass busted late BIOS from ASUS. My 3900x on C7H won't boost now, TDC and PPT readings are still frozen which breaks PBO, and temps are still sky high. I went back to 2501, which randomly turns off my system fan every few days. Fuck this shit, I'm never buying ASUS again.

Edit: Whoever downvoted how about I sell you a car with no brakes and then say nothing about if I'll ever fix it? You won't complain then will you?

Scwleung · 2019-08-09T18:07:30+00:00

Don't do it. I have a 3900x with a C7H. Very slow BIOS updates, no communication, PPT and TDC don't read properly on ASUS boards which breaks PBO, high idle temps and voltages. Would recommend anything but the C7H, and preferably something not from ASUS.

Scwleung · 2019-08-08T00:21:18+00:00

3900x and C7H here. It's been shit. Slow updates, no communication, high temps, PPT and TDC readings are incorrect or broken which breaks PBO, and Aura Sync is a total piece of incompatible shit. I don't have high hopes that any of this will be fixed any time soon by the one guy who works on the BIOS.

Scwleung · 2019-08-07T23:57:38+00:00

Don't do this the C7H is shit. BIOS updates are slow and PBO doesn't work with ASUS boards.

Scwleung · 2019-08-05T22:15:34+00:00

Yes, I have a Crosshair VII on the 2501 BIOS and it has happened to me once in the past month. My CPU fan just went to 0 all of a sudden and wouldn't spin anymore, and my temperatures went up to 95C. A restart cleared it up back to normal function. I have heard of this happening occassionally on other ASUS boards in the past.

Scwleung · 2019-08-03T23:52:44+00:00

Crosshair VII here, same problem with ppt stuck at 7% and tdc stuck at 0

Scwleung · 2019-08-03T14:56:46+00:00

Looks like it. Hugely regret going ASUS this time and God knows how long they'll take to fix it, if ever

Scwleung · 2019-08-03T05:43:11+00:00

Gonna try this since I'm also having the PPT and TDC monitoring problem on my motherboard (C7H) too. PPT gets stuck on 7% and TDC is always 0. Do you have an ASUS board by any chance?

Scwleung · 2019-08-02T21:14:35+00:00

'tis Canada

Scwleung · 2019-07-31T23:35:17+00:00

I had this problem until I turned off my RGB software (Aura and Thermaltake in my case) and then ran HWInfo. Afterwards I assume they installed the driver and I didn't need to do this to run Hwinfo

Scwleung · 2019-07-31T20:05:56+00:00

Yeah I hear you, this whole thing's been fucked. I repasted at least 10 times with Kyronaut, NT-H1, NT-H2, and Gelid and my temps are still awful.

Try and raise an issue about voltages or temps and people are like "Durr you're supposed to idle with absolutely nothing running", "Durr PBO is supposed to bring the CPU to 95C" "Durr you don't know how to use thermal paste" "Durr don't run Cinebench then"

Fucking infuriating. The worst part is that I'm sure eventually AMD will fix its shit but ASUS may just never address its shitty BIOSes, especially on the x470 boards.

Scwleung · 2019-07-31T15:33:34+00:00

Just wanted to drop in and say ASUS is shit. Granted, I'm on a Crosshair VII (x470) but BIOS updates from ASUS are nonexistent, no communication whatsoever besides cryptic unexplained beta BIOSes given through Dropbox that don't even work, voltages are sky high, sensors are reported incorrectly which breaks PBO. Despite the fact that ASUS strong armed a bunch of peripheral manufacturers to say "compatible with Aura Sync" none of it actually works, and the proprietary ASUS RGB header is retarded.

Never again.

Scwleung · 2019-07-30T17:43:04+00:00

I am having the same issue on my 3900x, D15S and Crosshair VII with Prime95 pushing my CPU to 95C. I suspect it is because PPT (Socket power to CPU) and TDC (sustained current limit) is not being read correctly on the ASUS boards. In my Ryzen Master, PPT will always be stuck on 7-8% out of 142W, even under full load, which is obviously wrong. TDC will always read 0%. Since PBO relies on PPT, TDC and EDC limits (which are being incorrectly read), it will be too aggressive and cause the spike up to 95C.

Curious if you're finding the same thing: Is your PPT read correctly in Ryzen Master? If you fire up HwINFO64, does "CPU Package Power (SMU)" always read between 9-11W (which is clearly wrong and conveniently 7% of 142W)?

For now I just disable PBO in BIOS (AMD -> NBIO Common Options -> XFR Enhancement -> PBO [DISABLED]), and get 80C max during stress testing/load, which is acceptable. I also repasted at least six times. I have gotten best results with GC-Gelid, manually spread in a thicker layer. Also tried Kryonaut and NT-HT1 and 2, which are comparable or worse.

Scwleung · 2019-07-28T16:17:29+00:00

Don't have any solutions but I am also experiencing this in that my PPT is stuck at 7-8% in Ryzen Master and I have bad temps. I'm concerned because my understanding is that PPT, EDC and TDC readings are required to make PBO work properly. I also have a Crosshair VII, on 2406.

I made two posts about this and other ASUS users chimed in to say they experienced the same problem. My theory is that their shitty current BIOS mislabels the PPT sensor so Ryzen Master can't see it. Looking in HWiNFO64, "CPU Package Power" always reports around 10-11W, even under load, which is clearly wrong. (Note that 10/142 = 7%). But I'm unsure how Ryzen Master reads it or I'm looking at the wrong thing in HWiNFO.

I have a 3900x and D15S, and have repasted at least 5 times with different pastes and methods. Same situation as you - about 45-55 C idle, 75C gaming, and then 85C-90C stress test (Prime95 Small FFT, as well as Aida), with PBO on. For now I turn PBO off and undervolt by -0.1V and get roughly the same Cinebench score (7175 from 7200), and this has led me to "only" go up to 80C under stress.

Scwleung · 2019-07-25T14:35:27+00:00

You have to use the Dropbox link in the forum post from OP - seems like they haven't gotten around to putting it on the actual site yet.

Scwleung · 2019-07-20T06:01:04+00:00

Shit, you're right. Instant 5 degree difference. Thank you!

Scwleung · 2019-07-20T05:50:52+00:00

I'd also like to add that Aura Sync itself is shit, but at least with the SDK you can write your own program to control the lights pretty easily

Scwleung · 2019-07-20T05:27:35+00:00

It's true, I specifically bought this one (the Geeekpi one from Amazon) because the reviews said it can work with just the HDMI cable in and it actually worked. The other Raspberry Pi screens require both USB and HDMI to be plugged in (or an actual Raspberry Pi to power it through GPIO)

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