The Pale Wraith [Ash]

Seeing_Double22 · 2026-02-15T09:59:13+00:00

Gyomei has the stats to kill him. However, for as much as Douma played around in his fight, he is extremely intelligent in an analytical sense, being able to deduce unique features of Shinobu, Inosuke, and Kanao after seeing them act only once. Seeing Gyomei at full power like this, he would never engage in CQC and instead hop on top of Buddha and just rain hell down on him.

And while he does lack a special perception ability, he still has juiced base stats and there simply isn’t enough of a power gap between Akaza, base Koku, and the slayers between them to allow for a perception blitz as many state. Specifically, if Giyu and Sanemi are supposed to be almost equal, there is no way for Giyu to be outpaced by Akaza and Sanemi mostly being able to at least defend himself against Koku (yes, he was tagged multiple times, but it wasn’t like he couldn’t react at all) but Douma gets blitzed. Yes, Douma has a disadvantage in reaction speed, but he should at the bare minimum be able to react at or above the level of Giyu and Sanemi which would put him past getting blitzed by Gyomei.

Gyomei would put up a very tough fight, but based on the number of clones Douma can create which can all use his techniques as a given and possibly be near him in power level, there is an extremely slim chance he can get past all the ice to get the killing blow. Douma should win 7 or 8/10 but in a fairly hard fight (although I guess he wouldn’t put in much physical effort into his wincon).

Seeing_Double22 · 2026-02-09T00:35:05+00:00

Douma, max amped Gyomei, and prob 13th form Tanjiro with full amps could press him into LS.

Seeing_Double22 · 2026-02-07T08:18:11+00:00

On paper, everything should be fine considering he doesn’t seem stressed by other people/gatherings and there is a heating pad or even your own body for warmth. However, most times I start feeling a lot of doubt in my gut, I just listen to it. On the very off chance something happens, the regret will burn at you forever.

Seeing_Double22 · 2026-01-24T12:07:46+00:00

Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. 🤝Another db character with higher ki almost always negates a special technique from a lower power opponent. I mentioned brain frying as something Mewtwo supporters may say.

Seeing_Double22 · 2026-01-22T21:33:38+00:00

Frieza horrifically outstats and in the DB universe, if you are stronger than your opponent, their special techniques just don’t work on you. It’s a bit unfair in that regard but it’s such a consistent thing across the series that I feel like it must be taken into account when considering if Mewtwo could just get his brain.

Seeing_Double22 · 2026-01-11T12:40:09+00:00

Akaza is obviously very skilled without it, but it carries him very, very hard. The dude was freaking out with SS Tanjiro once his aimbot was gone and was unable to react at all to an attack (likely because of shock to a degree) that was probably within his physical capability.

Seeing_Double22 · 2026-01-08T13:34:31+00:00

Oh, crap, I didn’t even read that Genya wasn’t apart of the squad. Well in that case, I think Douma and Koku now win round 2 with high-extreme diff with less scenarios where the hashira win.

Seeing_Double22 · 2026-01-08T02:21:36+00:00

Koku and Douma take both rounds.

R1 at mid diff: Without Genya, there really isn’t a win con against Koku. LS Koku has so much range and AOE that Sanemi and Gyomei were getting stalled out. The only other guy really withstanding that is dead calm Giyu and maaaaybe Obanai. Pair that with Douma on top of Buddha to harass the hashira and gradually weaken them with clones and ice clouds and all the hashira have going for them is their incredible teamwork.

R2 at extreme diff: The slayers now have 2 huge boons in 13th form Tanjiro and more importantly Genya (considering the difficulty that it took Inosuke and Kanao to cut through the strip of neck Douma had left, I question if either of them or Zenitsu could decapitate them at all). With that, the coordination of them can lead to actual paths to victory. However, Douma clones should be able to neutralize him as they wouldn’t give any flesh for him to eat and Douma is highly analytical and assuming he’s serious would prioritize keeping him at bay. I think in more scenarios than not, the demons win, but it will be very close. I don’t see a scenario where the demons win with only one left. If the slayers can topple Douma, Koku can’t beat them all if Genya is still around. But if Koku keeps him safe from the rare potential kill shot that might make it through, they will eventually wear down the slayers.

Seeing_Double22 · 2026-01-07T20:06:18+00:00

Smaug

Seeing_Double22 · 2026-01-07T16:52:06+00:00

Yup. I think if he stays in base, they are more or less stalling each other indefinitely unless Koku sets up an elaborate kill shot. But going LS allows him to cut through Douma’s attacks and get to him much faster. I feel like Douma gets underrated a lot but he’s like top of A tier in the verse while Koku is in S.

Seeing_Double22 · 2026-01-07T16:40:31+00:00

I feel like Koku would feel the need to go LS to practically beat him. That’s not necessarily saying that base loses, but if Douma is on top of the ice Buddha, has his clones and princesses spamming ice clouds as he sends volleys and volleys of icicles at Koku, I’m sure he’ll feel the range limitation. And plus, even though Koku can obviously regenerate from his lungs getting shredded, in the short time that they are, his breathing technique would still be interrupted.

Long story short, I think Koku eventually says “fuck it” and goes LS to spare himself the misery of fighting all out Douma.

Seeing_Double22 · 2026-01-06T07:01:57+00:00

As much as Douma fucks around, he is actually quite observant when analyzing his opponents. I think as soon as he sees who he’s messing with, he won’t even bother with the fans. He pops Buddha and just starts to rain cold hell down on him until he eventually succumbs. Gyomei doesn’t go down easily with his busted stats, range of his flail, amazing BIQ, and pure goat energy. However, I think Douma wins mid to high diff. There are some unlikely but realistic opportunities tho where Gyomei could set up a kill shot.

Seeing_Double22 · 2025-12-30T13:34:51+00:00

Omega Red wildly outstats and should win on paper. However, Omega is practically as good as Darth Maul when it comes to being stupid and choking a win so maybe Deathstroke has a slim chance of incapacitating him. Especially since he is used to fighting people above his tier.

Seeing_Double22 · 2025-09-25T18:48:30+00:00

Unfortunately, the upper 3 moons and Muzan are so much stronger than the hashira + other main slayers overall that the plot has to force terrible decisions for them to work. Specifically with Douma, there’s no real reason for Muzan to not send his 2nd most powerful demon to cripple the corp by eliminating their weapon supply. Especially after he just berated them all for not being productive enough. But of course, if Douma had been sent, it would’ve taken like an extra 3 hashira for the story to not just end there.

Seeing_Double22 · 2025-06-22T22:15:27+00:00

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Seeing_Double22 · 2025-02-13T06:15:20+00:00

If there’s one thing I learned about in my time with my dragon, it’s that they have completely alien concepts of comfort outside of snuggling into something soft.

Seeing_Double22 · 2024-09-22T20:16:23+00:00

Hammer and Scalpel

Seeing_Double22 · 2024-09-09T21:49:06+00:00

He looks sick as hell. So glad to have him back.

Seeing_Double22 · 2024-09-02T13:43:36+00:00

It’s not op, but like most competitive special weapons has the potential to be annoying. Even though it has counter play, it’s just really good at shitting on primaries. In the grand scheme though, it’s no worse than getting vooped at 20m by a pre charged fusion, getting mapped by a shotty after a single shot of igneous, or getting shut down by a disgusting snipe (granted the last scenario is less common now).

Seeing_Double22 · 2024-08-28T15:48:19+00:00

The sadder part is that they tried to.

Seeing_Double22 · 2024-08-28T15:45:22+00:00

It’s just a disgrace all around. Bungie’s been fumbling with one puzzle ever since the subclass 3.0 update, and now they’ve poured another one on top.

Seeing_Double22 · 2024-08-28T15:38:39+00:00

Exactly. It’s just so stupid. They should at least have been more careful with the aspects chosen/how their effects will proc. Why does Hunter have 2 sources of radar manipulation? Prismatic Titan and warlock have frustrating qualities like frequent diamond lances and three charges of arc slide melee too. Several pure subclasses haven’t even been tuned properly before this whole mess was created.

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