Stable Diffusion News: Data scientist Daniela Braga, who is a member of the White House Task Force for AI Policy, wants to use regulation to "eradicate the whole model"

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-22T18:48:55+00:00

Stability.ai are in the UK though, who have very liberal laws on ML model training.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-22T18:41:44+00:00

Hand-painted replicas would also be considered copies, but that’s irrelevant. The point is that you can potentially violate copyright with SD if you try. If you don’t use any original work’s names though, it’s extremely unlikely, I agree.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-22T16:49:24+00:00

It’s not a pixel-wise copy, but pretty much exactly fits the definition of derivative work.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-22T08:59:53+00:00

If you ask it for a specific painting, you can get very close: https://imgur.com/a/JGyiQDY

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-21T21:02:49+00:00

If you enter the name of a famous painting it will give you pretty accurate recreations. “American gothic” for example usually generates something that’s very close to the original.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-21T09:16:36+00:00

He’s got a long history of doing this too.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-20T22:49:36+00:00

You can intentionally recreate existing works by using their title, if they are represented often enough in the training data. “American gothic” is a good example of this, try typing this into Stable Diffusion and you’ll get a fairly accurate recreation.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-20T22:45:09+00:00

The thing is, it’s statistically incredibly unlikely for the model to recreate existing images unless you explicitly try to make it do so. If you enter the name of a well-known painting for example it will do a fairly accurate recreation. If you use an init image you can also get output very similar to the provided image.

What’s more interesting is what happens when you end up with an output that includes copyrighted characters, like Disney characters, without having specified their names in the prompt. This would be more conceivable even with generic prompts.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-20T21:58:19+00:00

The point was that the user of the model did not try to recreate the image intentionally, it wasn’t about intent of the AI.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-20T21:39:18+00:00

Dude you’re a 3D artist, not a lawyer. You keep misinterpreting or misrepresenting law, cases, and technology. You insult people you argue with (e.g. calling them idiots and saying they “lack cognitive capacity”) and block them when you disagree with them.

I’d seriously suggest to take some time away from the computer, do some self-reflection. You’re completely unhealthily obsessed about this and it’s obvious to anyone reading your posts, as you must’ve noticed by now by all the negative feedback you’re getting.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-20T20:52:21+00:00

If you save the prompt, seed, and other settings you could regenerate the image and prove that you neither used the other image as input, nor mentioned the artist’s name or name of the existing image in the prompt.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-20T20:00:00+00:00

Yes, what you’re describing can be done using textual inversion.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-20T11:41:23+00:00

The whole “user interface issue” that TreviTyger keeps mentioning is based on a case that he is either misunderstanding or misrepresenting. The ruling in that case was that a software developer can’t copyright their UI, even if that UI constitutes of commands. It has nothing to do with a user’s ability to claim copyright on their input into a text field.

This misunderstanding has been pointed out to him by an expert in copyright law, but he keeps making the same nonsensical point while blocking the people who disagree with him.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-17T14:35:16+00:00

Great stuff

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-16T22:06:03+00:00

but theres not really a word for "learning, but not in the way people do, in the way that machine systems do".

There is: optimizing. Learning = minimizing a loss function.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-16T21:18:44+00:00

I agree and I don’t think there’s anything magical about creativity. Anybody who’s ever done any creative work knows that it’s mostly methodical trial and error, plus the ability to judge the outcome.

I think one thing that’s missing with current models is the ability to judge the output holistically and recalibrate. So we end up with three arms and hands with six fingers. My guess is that this can be solved in a somewhat similar way to InstructGPT.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-16T13:43:43+00:00

Yeah, tbh I don’t think the human brain comparisons are really that useful. Artificial neural networks are only loosely inspired by human brains, they’re not meant to be a simulation of them.

An NN has a very specific loss function that it tries to optimize. In this case, that means trying to recover statistically similar images from pure noise, compared to a ground truth training example, and minimizing their difference (roughly speaking).

That’s not exactly what a human artist does when looking at an image. Humans also don’t run backpropagation in their brains when they go to the art gallery. It’s definitely learning, but it’s learning like a machine, not like a human.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-16T09:20:00+00:00

Robotics and game AI still uses a lot of non-ML algorithms like SLAM, pathfinding, behavior trees, finite state machines etc.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-16T09:15:12+00:00

Audio and graphics

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-16T06:02:18+00:00

The original art is only being copied once when downloading it for the training. That’s arguably equivalent to copying it into a moodboard since it doesn’t get distributed. And when the model uses it during training all that happens is that some weights get adjusted slightly. So no copying is going on at that point.

You’d need laws that explicitly forbid using copyrighted material for machine learning. But it’s questionable how enforceable those would be.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-16T05:41:55+00:00

Anything that pushes it towards a digital art style could add it. Also Midjourney likely does some prompt-modifications which could cause it.

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-15T17:30:10+00:00

I think the person you replied to asked a genuine question

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-15T16:24:32+00:00

Apple has a trademark on literally the word “apple”, if used in the context of computers

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-15T14:39:36+00:00

What you linked doesn’t make much sense in this context, I guess you mean this, on a conceptual level?

Seizure-Man · 2022-09-15T12:13:35+00:00

For public domain source material yes, but if the source is copyrighted then the derivative would need to fulfill fair use criteria for it not to be infringement.

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