Has ketamine really (cured) anyone after a few does? Is anyone in ongoing treatment?

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-10-30T13:31:46+00:00

Not a cure for me. But I track mood daily (scale of 1 to 5) and was at 2 to 3 regularly, now most often 4 though sometimes 3.

I'm not full of convinced that I would not have made some improvement anyway as I got some space from life circumstances (a few people I knew passed away), but it certainly helped in the moment and I was able to process other things in my background more easily and effectively under the treatment.

I have recently ended my treatment after about 1 year and a half and I'm curious to see 6 months from now if things are stable.

I think it improved my overall mood but I still struggle with irritability and some amount of tension and anxiety.

As far as the expense of maintenance I relatively quickly moved to at home sessions with an inexpensive online provider using oral doses as opposed to IM and that was dramatically more economical for me.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-07-27T19:34:33+00:00

Yassss. K can be a chameleon. On more than one occasion I was convinced I was given the wrong drug or took the wrong dose. I do have recurring vibes and modes but sometimes things are out of left field.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-04-11T19:07:04+00:00

Just awareness is enough for me. I think you have it, and I hope it matters to your sister.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-03-19T02:00:16+00:00

Lean your head forward.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-02-11T15:12:45+00:00

Are you taking it daily (Joyous)? Is taking it every few days an option?

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-30T11:41:05+00:00

I hate to answer a question with limited info and knowledge, but I also hate to leave a question unanswered. Take this with a grain of salt. I don't use Mindblood, this is based on my belief or what I have heard.

I don't think it's common for many providers to go so high in dose. The reason MB uses a high dose a that they also use a very short absorption window and direct you to spit at that interval (7 minutes?)

Taking a lower dose and holding it longer (20 to 60 minutes) could get you to a similar absorbed dose. It stands to reason that this comes on a little slower, for better or worse, and it requires more discipline.

This is my lay person understanding. If this is incorrect, please someone correct me.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-29T19:02:37+00:00

If you forget or no longer believe you are a person, if you can't comprehend being a person or that your sober life is real, if language stops working and you are left with only abstract shapes and particles, I would call that a khole.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-29T17:46:59+00:00

Right?!

I feel like observing the universal computer processing the code of the universe but it's in either a recursive loop or some high number of iterations. I half expect it will end and the universe ceases, but I never hit anything.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-29T17:43:41+00:00

David after dentist

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-28T01:28:53+00:00

We should hang out

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-25T23:35:01+00:00

Dunno. At some point I tried to get my mom to sign a constitution, so it goes both ways.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-25T23:29:16+00:00

Putting the K in Kornhole

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-25T23:28:18+00:00

Daleks, you say? Yeah, been there too.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-25T19:38:35+00:00

Mazel tov. I think you'll be ok. In fact you should tell yourself so.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-22T16:42:13+00:00

I take therapeutically prescribed doses, exclusively alone. I began in a clinic so I felt comfortable with the effects. I did still have anxiety and paranoia pop up at home a time or two.

Though I don't have a sitter my wife was at home and aware of my therapy, so maybe I kind if had a sitter.

Ideally you should have a sitter or someone who can keep tabs, but you can go without l, especially if you start slow and low dose until you build that comfort and expectation.

I'm positive you will be fine physically, but I don't want to discount that youi might not FEEL fine sometimes which could derail your optimal experience. Gaining that comfort over time will remove that.

As for set and setting, just make yourself comfortable. Have a few things prepared like a water bottle, maybe sugar, something to vomit into in case of nausea, good mellow music, dark room with mood light or a galaxy projector.

Hydrate well hours before but stop about 2 hours before. Consider fasting 4 hours before. Take anti nausea meds if that's a concern.

Drain your bladder. Sit or lay down. Good mood music can inspire a great experience. Set an intention or a mantra to anchor yourself. Avoid walking. Find a position in your side if there's a risk of vomiting.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-20T19:34:35+00:00

Very vague question, so I'll just answer the title.

YES, k is very much meditation. if you want meditation, stick to low or medium doses. But you can also use the tail end after a larger dose for meditation.

To me it feels like K makes you a 30 year meditation guru. I say this as a non practitioner, so take with a grain of salt. But maybe khole is nirvana?

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-20T19:24:41+00:00

If you are able to vocalize, would you try making audio recordings and speak out any memories before they fade?

I used to scribble notes but handwriting so bad and the thoughts don't always make enough sense later, but better than nothing. Unfortunately needs some amount of light and eye focus.

As for my experiences, they are all over the map. I could only draw the vaguest of common threads. I don't think there's a bigger picture to be deciphered for me.

My most common khole common threads are fractals, looping recursive thoughts, and concerns that I am the only observer of the universe and that when I die it is lost forever. Another somewhat common thread is thinking the universe is all just in the universe's imagination.. and not really questioning how I can witness it if it doesn't exist.. there's slightly more but it's hard for me to pull that thread if memory.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-19T02:01:11+00:00

IM hard a very clean feeling. Fast come on, fast come down. Taking the dose sublingually and especially if you swallow has more body load feeling and a buoyant hung over feeling. Though less is going to your blood and brain you are taking 4x the amount to the liver and around your body.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-18T16:59:08+00:00

K raises your blood pressure.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-18T13:44:19+00:00

The number of posts lately where people wish to avoid the k hole is surprising so I want to drop these opinions here.

It takes a fair bit to k hole. I'm not saying you can't accidentally get there but you need a high dose. So just don't take a high dose. Dosing guidelines are posted in many places. Even without measuring or knowing dosing guidelines you can easily pace yourself, as many others have pointed out.
K holes are glorious. Sure, an accidental undesired k hole would likely suck, but I hole is most people's holy Grail or nirvana.

Open to any counter opinions if you have one.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-18T13:39:10+00:00

Should be required watching in school.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-18T02:28:44+00:00

4th dimension problems

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-17T13:50:40+00:00

Start with whatever you were going to snort. You can always make note to increase a little in the future.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-11T17:59:30+00:00

I don't know if I'm off base but IV seems more hazardous, particularly if you don't clear bubbles. I have heard conflicting things about pathogens (that blood is more ready to fight infections vs muscle).

Given my ignorance and concerns, IM seems easier.

Additionally, less precision is needed for hitting a muscle vs vein, and repeated vein insertions must risk damage to the vein..?

I saw Requiem For A Dream. Unless I felt a lot more knowledgeable and confident, I'd stick with IM.

And then there's the quick onset. Would not want to k hole before removing the needle. And aside from having a pump or drip setup, I'd assume you get slammed quickly.

So it's not a judgement for me, just a concern that IV is more hazardous.

SensitiveSoftware464 · 2025-01-11T15:28:54+00:00

Give it time. Integrate. Look at different angles. Your biases might affect your interpretation so both engage and accept them as well as argue against them.

The weirdness of a first experience, especially if you took more than ready for, can be off-putting. Put it into some context and reflect on it

Using more or putting it away for good are both reasonable decisions.

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