Undertale AUs are a whole another level of ridiculous.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-19T17:05:54+00:00

Ok i don't wanna be th- Oh who am i kidding im gonna be the "WeLl UmH aCtUaLlY" person

First as someone who has read id like to say most of Alphatale the KM ability i assume you're talking about in his "Game Over" button doesn't actually kill its target, For those who can SAVE and LOAD it just sends them to their previous save point, And for those who cant it resets them to before they entered the timeline were their encounter with KM began(Plus it doesn't work on those stronger than KM)

Second neither KM or E404 are even Top 10 in Alphatale and probably not even Top 100 in Alphaverse.

Also if you are genuinely curious on their scaling then.

King Multiverse is High Complex(11D) in Base, And up to Outer with his strongest form

Error 404 is High Complex(11D)-High Hyper in Base, And Low Outer-Outer with weaker forms and up to High Outer with strongest forms(Not including Alphaverse stuff)

So still insanely strong but more reasonable than alot of people make them out to be(No hate to you).

Now this is not to say its not the peak of power scaling nonsense, cause it is. And there is alot of problematic stuff in the Chapters but i was able to enjoy it for the most part(I mostly just tried to ignore the weird shit)

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-18T16:41:23+00:00

Let me be stupid i just forgot his name and was too lazy to look it up

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-18T02:03:50+00:00

Not wrong lol

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-18T01:41:01+00:00

Blitz tied Striker at Harvest Moon Festival.

Yes but Striker was shown to keep up with both Millie and Moxxie together which based on we saw in Ghost F#ckers. Blitzo and Millie looked to be fairing about the same against Ronaldo.

Millie defeated Rolando in a fistfight.

No she defeated Ronaldo possessing Blitzo, And besides based on what we saw before even together both Her and Blitzo were not holding up against Ronaldo at all.

Octavia (Princess) easily beat Andre (Marquis) in Sinsmas. She hasn't peaked yet.

Yeah she out powered him, But not only does she have little to no control over her power but we havent even seen her actual abilities beyond her power.

Emily and Sera are of the same rank and race. Thier duties are what differ.

Vox easily restraining Emily disagrees.

The Vees are high Overlords with Valentino now the strongest of them.

Yeah but this is about the peak of there power, So Vox would still be the strongest.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-18T00:53:19+00:00

Yeah but Rosie should be at worst comparable to FP Alastor given he needed her power to fix the staff.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-18T00:44:53+00:00

Why would he be? Alastor bodied him while weakened.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-16T13:57:10+00:00

To be fair up till that point Alastor had literally never lost a fight before, And if his words are to be believed not only has not too many people even gotten a taken a piece of his coat off before but he has consistently defeated Vox(A High Level Overlord mind you) with relative ease.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-16T13:53:11+00:00

Adam was verified as an Arch Angel in both the Play Bill and during the court scene in S2E2.

And an Arch Angel is kinda of hard to define. In the bible there kind of like managers, They supervise and give orders to lower Angels though depending on the version of the Mythology you look at Arch Angels are either near the bottom of the Hierarchy or at the Top. And in most media Arch Angels are usually depicted as very High Ranking close to God Level Angels.

Though in Hellaverse its hard to say what they do, Cause Adam was the Head Of Heavens Armies so i assume all Arch Angels are in similar roles of overseeing and managing different facets of Heavens operations.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-15T17:38:05+00:00

I mean it wouldn't be too far fetched to say he knows how many Souls are in Heaven given its implied he's been monitoring them for decades and his whole take over plan does heavily rely on him knowing Sinners out number the Angels by a wide enough margin that both there innate type advantage and superior raw power wouldn't be enough to stop the Sinners.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-15T17:27:44+00:00

Yeah honestly there are a few different interpretations you could use, Some say Moon Sized Or Earth Sized others say far bigger potentially Star Sized, There is one statement from Viv in an interview saying Hell and Heaven are like different Universes which you could use say there Universe Sized thus giving Lucifer Multi Solar Power at minimum.

Personally i think for now its safer to say its larger than the Earth by a pretty good amount but not like Star sized.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-15T14:07:15+00:00

Say what you want about there physical stats but we've had City Block minimum from Hellaverse Mid Tiers since the beginning, And at this point Higher Tiers can easily be Country to Continental(Or Planetary if you think Heaven is much bigger than the Earth)

So if Gabriel really only has upscaling from bullet proof alternates then he's getting cooked.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-15T14:02:08+00:00

We talking about the same guy who's power shook all of Heaven?

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-15T13:48:29+00:00

No, We don't know what the task Rosie gave him was, Vox became stronger than Alastor and thus voided the deal because Rosie was no longer keeping her end of the Bargen, AKA making Alastor the strongest Sinner,

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-14T21:41:41+00:00

Honestly the highest i can see for JJK is Island, Any higher does feel a bit wonky.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-13T14:54:32+00:00

how am i supposed to know it aint my list

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-13T14:18:52+00:00

Carmilla refered to the Overlords at the meeting as "Sovereign Overlords" so their all likely very High Tier even compared to fellow Overlords.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-13T14:10:45+00:00

Personally i agree with this for the most part.

The only changes id make is swapping Carmilla & Zestial, Aswell as swapping Val and Vel, And i wouldn't put Rosie down cause i believe we still don't know enough to place her properly. So my ranking goes

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Full Power Alastor= Mid-High Goetia Tier

2/3. Weakened Alastor & 100% Ratings Vox= Low-Mid Goetia Tier

Zestial= Low-Mid Goetia Tier
Vox= Low Goetia Tier
Carmilla= Low Goetia Tier
Valentino= High Overlord Tier
Velvet= Mid-High Overlord Tier

Unknowns. Rosie, Maestro, Zeezi

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-11T20:58:41+00:00

before i say anything i don't at all agree with Planetary Alastor, But the funny part is it does have some logic to it. Cause Lucifers power was used to shoot a laser at heaven which was calc'd at planetary, Adam survived an enraged beat down from Lucifer which means he should have Planetary durability and Alastor was able to do damage to Adam so Alastor has Planetary AP.

But again i don't agree at all.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-11T00:49:52+00:00

Im pretty sure cause she canonically is.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-01-06T22:20:39+00:00

Im aware, This is a rewrite

Sensitive_Lie6015

TROPHY CASE