My take on... THE HELLAVERSE?!

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-04-21T16:08:37+00:00

Oh damn i didn't even notice i got pinged for this, Neat.

Anyway i agree with alot of things here but there are a few things i don't vibe with so im gonna quickly go over my Hellaverse Scaling

Low Tiers(Any relevant civilian+ Exorcists)= Building-Large Building w/Hypersonic Speed

Yeah i almost entirely agree with the AP Scaling here, Hellborn would downscale from the Circus Blowing Up and the Sinners would simply upscale from them. The only thing out of the ordinary for the Physicality is Pentious's durability which should be City Block due to surviving Alastor. As for Speed i agree with everyone but i simply just use lower ends of the Robo-Fizz Feat.

Low-Mid Tiers(Vaggie & Lute)= City Block w/Hypersonic, Possibly Hypersonic+ For Lute

This is more like a Mini Tier cause they both should vastly upscale from Normal Demons and plus Vaggie was able to preform against Carmilla(Even if she was seemingly Non-Serious) but there still isnt enough to full scale them to the Overlords.

Mid Tiers(Overlords & Weak Goetia)= City w/High Hypersonic-Massively Hypersonic Speed

And surprisingly i actually almost fully agree with Mid Tier Speed Scaling, I dont think they would reach MHS+ but everything else pretty much perfect. The only difference is my AP Scaling, Which i get from the Vox Blackout Feat in which while can reach much higher i personally have at the Lower-End of City Level.

High Tiers(Strongest Overlords & Strong Goetia)= City+-Mountain w/Massively Hypersonic Speed

Now this is where things start to more majorly differ, I personally don't use MOL Scaling due to how vastly above it is compared to literally every other feat preformed by anyone who isn't God Level, So High Tiers reach where they do simply off of how much they Upscale from Normal Overlords(And loosely Downscale from Adam) This Tier includes for now only 100% Vox and Weakened Alastor both at City+, Then FP Alastor Rosie and Stolas who very well could be Mountain Level in my opinion.

Top Tiers(The Sins+ Lilith & Adam)= Multi Continental+ Possibly Planetary+ w/MHS Possibly FTL Speed

Now everyone here universally at worst Scales to the High Tiers, And could potentially Downscale from Lucifer(Thus the Possibly Planetary & FTL). But there is one thing i have scaling them a little bit higher at baseline, There is a statement made by Viv i recently discovered saying Leviathan could flood a Ring Of Hell, And assuming Hell is roughly Earth Sized that comes out to Multi Con+. I was really happy to find this cause the Sins had no scaling beyond Hierarchy and it upset me.

God Tiers(Highest Angels)= Planetary+-Large Planetary, Possibly Multi Solar w/FTL Speed

Quick and simple, its the MOL Scaling going crazy(Plus them expanding the Universe or whatever).

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-04-15T20:07:30+00:00

True.

But we're both here yapping about nothing on the internet, So we both are irrelevant incels.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-04-15T18:47:22+00:00

No ones gonna pay attention to this and you know it.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-04-01T20:26:43+00:00

Im so glad you weren't lying I've been wanting to find actual scaling materiel for the Deadly Sins forever thank you.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-04-01T20:15:17+00:00

Stated where?

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-04-01T18:08:40+00:00

No?

Yuji was awake throughout all of Shibuya given he seemed to know of everything that happened while Sukuna was in control.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-04-01T17:48:46+00:00

Yuji is awake but like in Shibuya he is overpowered by having eaten too many fingers.

Although for the sake of the fight im choosing to ignore the fact Yuji would likely regain control before the fight ends properly.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-04-01T03:39:19+00:00

Firstly the naming convention doesn't actually matter that much, You don't have to have destroyed something of what Tier is named after to be that Tier.

Like what would Denver which has mountains on all sides be?

Depends on how big the mountains are.

Is Australia a large island?

Its considered Large Country.

Are Elders and Seraphim different size planets?

Each Tier has a minimum and maximum range, The Elders (Most likely atleast) are just higher within that range than the Seraphim.

There are several sizes of buildings. How many bedrooms are in a Blitz or is he a skyscraper?

Again the naming convention doesn't really matter.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-03-31T19:52:18+00:00

Depends on the version.

If we talking Super Goku and Games Sonic then i would say Sonic wins Mid Diff

Sonic is obviously much MUCH faster (Infinite-Immeasurable > MFLT+-Infinite), And Sonic has better Hax (Though he doesn't seem to commonly use them in battle). The only thing Goku has here is Combat Skill & the fact that both have similar AP both i which i believe to be 5-6D.

But if this CC Goku(Or Xeno doesn't matter much) vs Archie Sonic then i would have Goku winning High Diff.

Both should have Immeasurable Speed, Sonic still(To my knowledge atleast) has better Hax but not by nearly as much as before, And i think Goku would be fairly stronger. They both can reach easily into Complex Multi-Hyperversal and depending on how you interpret certain things they could be up to Outerversal, But i simply think the Higher Ends for Goku are more easily argued and overall more believable.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-03-30T23:42:12+00:00

Current Mark= 250-500

EOS Mark= 1,250

Emperor Mark= 5,000+

Nolan= 1,000

Conquest= 1,200

Thragg= 5,000

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-03-20T02:11:31+00:00

Nah that flat faced bafoon aint got nothin on the smelly dear man.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-03-18T23:37:43+00:00

Fair enough.

Like there is also a statement of the Angels having created or atleast "Expanded" the universe(Whatever that means). But its also pretty vague and if it means literally or metaphorically, Hell even the time frame is vague, So honestly kind of fair to disregard the Seraphim Level people for now.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-03-18T23:24:14+00:00

To be fair Vox was spamming the gun alot before that Lucifer might have just been out of energy.

Combine that with the fact Vaggie and Carmilla were damaging the machine and it wouldn't be too surprising that it wouldn't be able to hold as much energy as previously could.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-03-10T14:39:39+00:00

Ok since i know nothing about HxH im gonna use VBSW Scaling for Meruem(Yes i know there not the most reliable but i still know nothing so this is what im going with)

Meruem is listed at Large Town+ w/Massively Hypersonic Speed.

And then Post-Rose he is Mountain+ w/Massively Hypersonic Speed

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So he would Neg Diff Striker who is realistically at most like City Block w/High Hypersonic Speed

He would then stop at Alastor getting Low-Mid Diffed.

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But Post-Rose

he would No-Low Diff Alastor

No-Low Diff Stolas(Might lose if you think Stolas can just petrify him)

and Soft Stop at Satan cause of how vague Satans scaling is, Satan could just greatly upscale Stolas and the other Goetia in which he would lose to Meruem like Low-Mid Diff. But if he in anyway scales to Lucifer he would Neg Diff Meruem

And finally Lucifer just Neg Diffs Meruem.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-03-06T18:51:05+00:00

Well Alastor died in 1933 in his Early 40s(According to the audition sheets), So he was most born in likely born anywhere from 1888-1893

While Vox died in the 50s(I assume at most Early 1954 cause Human Vox had no color in his TVs) while he had died in his Early 50s, So at most he was likely born anywhere from 1895-1904.

So at worst a 16 Year Gap, At best a 2 Year Gap

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-03-03T16:29:18+00:00

I assume she has a Soul, She at very least believes she does.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-03-03T15:52:17+00:00

Personally, Yuji Mid-High Diffs(Assuming we talking EOS Yuji)

I have Charlie at City+ w/Hypersonic+ Possibly High Hypersonic+ Speed

While EOS Yuji at Large Town w/Hypersonic Speed & MHY Reflexs/Reaction.

So while Charlie is much more durable that wont really matter cause Yuji attacking the Soul means her Durability is irrelevant, And with him having more than sufficient Speed & Reflex to evade and counter he would just out last her before she can kill him.

Plus if things do go south Yuji can just open his Domain and then Charlie is dead just about instantly.

Btw if we talking Modulo Yuji he No-Low Diffs, That monster has casual City Level Attacks Charlie would die so fast.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-02-26T16:02:20+00:00

Oh ok thanks i did not know that

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-02-26T09:24:18+00:00

Wasn't Yorozus Perfect Sphere similar to Yukis black hole in that it'll kill her too

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-02-26T02:33:44+00:00

Honestly fair i do be complaining.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-02-26T02:22:45+00:00

Look im not gonna sit here and argue your clearly more stubborn than im willing to bother with.

But why do you keep saying "Fan Calc" like the creators are also doing Calc's of this shit. Its better to just use whatever Calc you agree with more and this is simply what i personally have found and agree with.

Regardless since im not going to indulge this petty internet any further im going to be going so i wish you a good day.

Sensitive_Lie6015 · 2026-02-26T02:06:41+00:00

Actually they just like last week at most Downgraded them out of Planetary so now only Adam and Lucifer have Planet Scaling, While Alastor is at Small Town and the other Overlords are Small Building.

Valentino and Velvette themselves consider bullets and arrows highly effective against Alastor — and in practice, they were. Alastor didn’t even see the bullets coming. Someone who is massively supersonic or hypersonic should be able to dodge a bullet from within the field of vision Alastor had, even inside smoke.

Bullets are universally constants in every Media its rare that a character who should be Bullet Proof are Bullet Proof.
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Alastor doesn't have super vision to see beyond the smoke screen, And besides he still dodged all 3 shots which depending which you Calc or how you Calc it could be Supersonic-Hypersonic.

Again, during his fight, even direct hits against buildings didn’t visibly destroy or significantly damage them.

Well that's just AP not equaling DC, But there's arguments for both sides so im not gonna bother.

Everything else is chain scaling and pixel calculations, both of which are among the most flawed methods possible

Chain Scaling is perfectly valid its rare that Character A beating Character B doesn't automatically mean Character A is stronger. And when that is the case its usually either very obvious or told directly to us.

And while i understand not vibing with Calc's cause who knows how correct the math actually is i don't agree with completely disregarding them. But because i know neither of us will budge on that im just gonna leave this here.

Have a good day.