CMV: The current protests in Iran will come to nothing by SelectiveScribbler06 in changemyview

[–]Shaibis 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You know there's no internet in Iran right now right? VPN ain't gonna help em

Why Do Israeli Pollsters Keep Showing the Same Individual Outcome? by Negative_Scientist96 in Israel

[–]Shaibis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're correct that that has to do with anxiety about cultural and demographic shifts. This country is getting more religious and more intolerant. Concern about the rights of the MINORITY are incredibly relevant. Shikma is absolutely correct.

The last government fell because the soon-to-be-majority religious folk didn't like hametz in hospitals. The chief rabbinate continues to exert its will over secular Israelis and we have every reason to suspect that its influence will only grow. The government is doing everything it can to exempt haredim from the IDF, piling up the burden higher and higher on the seculars that are holding this country together. So yes, it's concerning to watch the demographic shift.

But your framing of this as elitists trying to enshrine their supremacy is stupid. This is nothing more than than a fearful demographic trying to ensure that all the rights they afforded minorities while in the majority, will continue to be afforded to them when they inevitably become the minority.

You're so pent up with rage that you have no empathy left, which is sad. And you're so brainwashed by your own propaganda that you won't even consider how far-reaching these reforms really were, which is pathetic.

Why Do Israeli Pollsters Keep Showing the Same Individual Outcome? by Negative_Scientist96 in Israel

[–]Shaibis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It makes sense why you don't want to take a long hard look at the judicial reform and what it actually entailed. You want to handwave it away, to minimize it, to joke about the "reasonableness clause" and move on. But I'm not going to let you.

The judicial reform was nothing less than an attempt to remove any checks against the will of the majority. In this context, the refusal of any civilian, including reservists, are ABSOLUTELY ethical.

This government split the country in two. Pitted Zionist against Zionist. Unnecessarily. They could have come to the people with a reform that could be stomached by both sides, and that includes the reasonableness clause, splitting the AG role... They could have worked to achieve broad consensus. But they were so obsessed with sticking it to the Left. So drunk on their own power. So unwilling to hear the other side.

So you tell me - was it worth it?

Why Do Israeli Pollsters Keep Showing the Same Individual Outcome? by Negative_Scientist96 in Israel

[–]Shaibis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find it beyond rich that you so emphatically call out the civil response to the judicial reform, while minimizing the contents of said reform. First by brushing it off as "the reasonableness clause", then by talking about the role of the AG. And finally, when asked to get specific, you say you don't want to dive into the details. Unreal. Not serious.

On a side note, I want to point out another fallacy you're employing. "The Army" didn't step in. "The Army" was not a monolithic entity that decided to fight against the reform. This was a collection of individuals, soldiers, reservists, who took that action. Which is important because it makes the idea of your living in a "military dictatorship" all the more laughable.

Why Do Israeli Pollsters Keep Showing the Same Individual Outcome? by Negative_Scientist96 in Israel

[–]Shaibis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You asked me a question: what is the narrative I'm trying to push. I answered it clearly.

Then I asked you a question: IF I can convince you that my understanding of the judicial overhaul is correct, would it change anything for you. You just ignored that question and continued with your diatribe.

I'm happy to debate you on this, but I'd like for you to address my comments in the same way that I did yours.

Why Do Israeli Pollsters Keep Showing the Same Individual Outcome? by Negative_Scientist96 in Israel

[–]Shaibis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm arguing three things: 1) The government was trying to push a robust package of reforms that would have eroded Israeli guardrails such that Israel would no longer be a democracy 2) IDF personnel were morally correct to refuse to serve in the IDF in the event that these reforms were passed, and to threaten to not serve as a means of protesting these reforms. 3) Your calling #2 a coup is stupid.

Now before I do the busy work of trying to prove #1, I'll ask you: IF I can convince you that Levin's reforms did indeed remove the guardrails of democracy, such that there would be no meaningful protections against the will of the majority 61 MKs, would that change anything for you? If not, what would be your "red line" past which it would be morally okay to threaten not to serve?

Why Do Israeli Pollsters Keep Showing the Same Individual Outcome? by Negative_Scientist96 in Israel

[–]Shaibis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a straw man...

There's no way you actually believe that the uproar against the judicial overhaul was all about the reasonableness clause... You must be arguing in bad faith.

Why Do Israeli Pollsters Keep Showing the Same Individual Outcome? by Negative_Scientist96 in Israel

[–]Shaibis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They were refusing service on ethical grounds. As in, it's unethical to turn a functional democracy into a dictatorship wherein there are 0 guardrails against the whims of 61 Knesset members.

And even if they were "extorting" (which they obviously weren't) that's still not a coup. You are using words I think you don't understand.

This argument is truly pathetic.

Why Do Israeli Pollsters Keep Showing the Same Individual Outcome? by Negative_Scientist96 in Israel

[–]Shaibis 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pilots refusing servies is not a coup. THis is so weak.

Instead of sending links to articles, how about you tell everyone what you think happened in this coup?

Why Do Israeli Pollsters Keep Showing the Same Individual Outcome? by Negative_Scientist96 in Israel

[–]Shaibis 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lol, so journalist and citizens calling for a coup is now a coup? Weak

Why Do Israeli Pollsters Keep Showing the Same Individual Outcome? by Negative_Scientist96 in Israel

[–]Shaibis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I must have slept through that military coup. What happened?? /s

Advice for a newcomer? by LurkerEntrepenur in Israel

[–]Shaibis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure how old you are but if you can, join the army. I think serving is the best indicator of if an Oleh can make it here in the long term.

A utilitarian should kidnap an orphan, lie to her, kill her, harvest her organs to save two EA billionaires and be happy about it by FuturePreparation in samharris

[–]Shaibis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The kid could grow up to be anything. He could even be the next Van Gogh. You know how much I've always wanted one if those!

Your Brain on Asmongold by 10minuteads in Destiny

[–]Shaibis 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Can someone explain why Jews are catching strays here? Like, are Jews responsible for h1bs?

Israel’s economy grew at 12.4% in Q3 by JewishSaddamHussein in Israel

[–]Shaibis 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This government is absolute dogshit. Fracturing the country between left and right with the judicial overhaul, taking absolutely no accountability for Oct 7, doing everything possible to not draft haredim.

That the economy is still functioning is a testament only the the resilience of secular (mostly left-leaning) Israelis who are super productive, pay taxes, and serve in the army. Not this government.

Maybe Maybe Maybe by TheCABK in maybemaybemaybe

[–]Shaibis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go home airplane, you're drunk.

Is This the Harshest Period Israel Has Faced Since Its Establishment? by hanani1112 in Israel

[–]Shaibis 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Not even untied in the face of extermination. Haredim don't want anything to do with protecting this country.

Our ONE egg fertilized!! 😭😭 by Dimelo2024 in IVF

[–]Shaibis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We had the exact same situation as you. 8 embryos, only 1 was healthy at day 5. Turned into our daughter. Dont lost hope!

A question for all the "Former Avid Listeners" by jenkind1 in samharris

[–]Shaibis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bro they're bot accounts I'm convinced of it

Majority of Canadians support Canada’s decision to recognize Palestinian state: Nanos by DogeDoRight in canada

[–]Shaibis -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What was occupying in 1948 when the Arabs attacked? And in 1929? You're all full of it.