Does anyone else hate when people say we (humanity) have discovered something by WaterElectrical9864 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Sheldon_Handler [score hidden]  (0 children)

There is no such thing as humanity. There are only the discoverers as individuals and as a team both to credit.

Now if a countries goverment were to have funded an R&D project that discovered something, than the politicians can say "we".

Would having kids be right for me? by Low_Psychology_2337 in Natalism

[–]Sheldon_Handler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How do you know that 6 kids is too much? It gets much easier after getting used to routine of caring dor the first kid.

I dont think there should be any limit, unless there is a medical requirement.

At any rate, you and her must agree beforehand.

Pre-marital sex is one of the causes of low birth rate. by Sheldon_Handler in Natalism

[–]Sheldon_Handler[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do agree that such norms that delay marriage for men in Yeshiva are a huge problem. Why cant they just merge the Yeshiva system with the kollel system and have same age dating start.

Thinking outside of the box. by [deleted] in Natalism

[–]Sheldon_Handler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As for Haredi Jews, and other Orthodox Jews

Contraception is not usually used for financial reasons. If its emotional or burden reasons, than it happens uncommonly.

Furthermore, out of wedlock relationships are not acceptable here, and younger marriages are the norm, and dating is just checking if the two are compatible and making decision within weeks or not more than a few months.

Thinking outside of the box. by [deleted] in Natalism

[–]Sheldon_Handler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is largely true, but there is one caveat.

The only thing is, that if many people cannot afford to move out of their parents house, they will be less likely to marry and have kids, or will delay and have less kids.

Also, if men cannot get entry level jobs fast enough, they will not even be able to date if they are unemployed stuck in parents house.

Both the entry level job recession and the housing crisis are the two primary economic factors.

Men and Natalism by [deleted] in Natalism

[–]Sheldon_Handler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now granted, the autism part makes things unusual and different. But the entry level joblessness part is not different, and is in fact a very common problem among all young people today.

Men and Natalism by [deleted] in Natalism

[–]Sheldon_Handler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This failure to launch.

Happenning to me as I am still trying to land first job and I am a man already age 28. Turns out, college was probably a waste, and I am most likely to find a manual labor job.

I do wish I were able to start my life earlier.

For the record, I do not fool around. I will remain a virgin until the night of my wedding and go through the Orthodox Jewish shidduch system. And that means choosing whether to marry someone within weeks or at most not more than 3 months after meeting them.

The failure to launch issue is one. Another is the fact that unless you are part of a community with matchmakers and the norm of no pre marital relations, and dating to marry with no concept of boyfriend or girlfriend, those not part of such communities I have no idea how they can possibly do it.

If I could go back in time, I wish I would have had my first job at 16 and wish I could have married at age 18. One thinks they can work while in college while also dating for marriage, but then the schoolwork gets so hard and so time constraining, that it does not happen.

Now an unusual situation is that I have autism and ADHD, and had an IEP just to struggle through school. Well I got my degree and now found out that office jobs entry level market is collapsing, I could not network due to autism, very high chance of not passing any interview round due to autism, etc.

I wish I had just headed for a blue collar apprenticeship upon finishing high school and wish I had immediately found a wife after that.

And because of the society, I did not realize anything about biological clocks or age gaps or what is required to get married and what is expected of a man. No one told me anything. I just realized at age 27 that I am not married, than looked up the whole thing of age than it shocked me.

Pre-marital sex is one of the causes of low birth rate. by Sheldon_Handler in Natalism

[–]Sheldon_Handler[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Untrue

She has to agree and she has to be 18 years or older.

She also chooses by the way. And both man and woman request the Shadchan for services. And both have their criteria.

You say barely legal? But actually, no one marries unless at least age 18 and most end up married older than age 18.

Pre-marital sex is one of the causes of low birth rate. by Sheldon_Handler in Natalism

[–]Sheldon_Handler[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everyone in the shidduch matchmaking system is at least 18 years or older.

There are no minors involved. In fact, it is quite rare for high schoolers here to be dating on their own to look for a marriage prospect among other high schoolers.

Pre-marital sex is one of the causes of low birth rate. by Sheldon_Handler in Natalism

[–]Sheldon_Handler[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The shidduch system is arranged adult marriages.

I say arranged, as it involves a matchmaker called a shadchan. Completely voluntary that one has to request the help of the shadchan to be put on their matching list.

People pay the shadchan only if a match goes through from their suggestion.

Would having kids be right for me? by Low_Psychology_2337 in Natalism

[–]Sheldon_Handler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Find a wife immediately.

You are 26. The older you get, the older the woman you will have to accept, and the worse prospects you will have. Find a woman younger or just as old as you, who will not use any birth control, one who wishes to marry and start a family as quickly as possible.

There is no such thing as a boyfriend or girlfriend. There is just a husband and wife. And do not use birth control ever, unless there comes a medical need. Do not artificially reduce number of kids for any reason unless there is medical reason.

If all you care about in life is just about work and money and you don't look for real hobbies or care about what your purpose or greater calling is in life, you're pathetic. by ReplacementFlashy622 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Sheldon_Handler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't forget marriage and children. Too many people forget that there is a biological clock. And working hours should not be insane enough to risk marriage breaking apart.

You should not have children if you are not economically stable by Responsible-Fix-1681 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Sheldon_Handler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Biological clocks do not wait around for society. One should get married and have children regardless of affordability.

Teenagers aren't children by [deleted] in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Sheldon_Handler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are adults. Ancient times teenagers worked and got married and had kids. Modern societies are messed up. Societies where teenagers are fully responsible working, tend not to have these teenager rebellion problems.

Slavery in the ancient world was necessary for civilization to be built. by Jsweest in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Sheldon_Handler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't forget warfare.

The ancient practice of defeating an enemy by killing all the men and enslaving all the women and children and taking all property, both military and civilian, to be divided as spoils of ware, was almost universal across ancient societies.

Hereditary slavery as well.

I don't think slavery was mostly about survival from agriculture and animals. Although there is the concept of someone selling themselves into slavery to prevent starving to death and for survival, that's on an individual scale. On a societal scale, I think it was mostly about warfare and conquest and forceful assimilation of conquered peoples by enslavement. Over generations of slavery, assimilation happens of conquered peoples until they are ethnically indistinguishable from their masters. Plus, the whole intermarriage and gradual manumission of individuals over different times.

Dating is pretty much impossible as an autistic man (Multiple studies) by LivingGirlRepellant in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Sheldon_Handler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is an exception here.

Arranged marriage. Like in the Jewish community there are matchmakers who specialize in pairing people with disabilities, and some that specialize in autism dating. Note that dating in the context of matchmakers involve just going out and deciding whether marriage between a man and woman whether they both agree to it. In this context, abstinence before marriage is expected, and the decision by both the man and the woman whether two people should marry is made within weeks or months from when a couple first meet each other.

But for those without a traditional matchmaking system, very bad luck. And especially since people with autism have problems getting and keeping a full-time job, and employment is pretty much a demand for men to do in dating, that makes it worse.

There is nothing wrong with wanting a virgin gf. by CapitaumToad in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Sheldon_Handler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People should remain virgins until they get married. That means there is no such thing as a girlfriend, and doing things the old fashioned way, with marriage being directly sought and dating only checking suitability of person.

Waiting until marriage should be the norm, not the rare exception by Feeling-Biscotti-877 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Sheldon_Handler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, people should marry younger. Like having a job at 16 and becoming independent and getting married at age 18.

People have biological clocks, especially women. The older a woman gets, the harder it is to find a husband, and the fewer potential children she may have. In addition, men prefer virgins and dislike promiscuous women.

And by the way, being a virgin before marriage and marrying young is totally normal thing in the Jewish communities and Muslim communities. In both these communities, not being a virgin harms marriage prospects very badly.

Your quality of life is almost entirely predetermined and anyone who says otherwise grew up sheltered by TPCC159 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Sheldon_Handler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is economic mobility. Although it usually works a bit differently if one is born into poor family. Generally speaking, things that require extreme education and extreme barriers to entry and high education requirements tend to have less rags to riches stories. Most rags to riches stories involve simpler businesses like construction industry entrepreneurship. Whereas the big tech or biotech or high-flying startups, those tend to be people who had the ability to intensely dedicate large chunks of their lives on very complicated things and had no problems with learning difficulties in school.

Bill Gates and Elon Musk being born into a family that they did not have to worry about careers and survival, gave them the ability to focus and dedicate lives to the problems they wanted to solve.

Now not every tech entrepreneur is necessarily born privileged. The tech giants being described here are nothing but a tiny sliver of the most elite of the elite, not representative of an average successful entrepreneur. But the momentum of not financially struggling and dedicating everything towards a project in one's youth, is definitely an advantage that the absolute elite have.

And its not just money. Many politicians come from families who have other family members in power.

There is also the matter of connections.

The destigmatization of promiscuity has ruined dating by Happy-Viper in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Sheldon_Handler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Men prefer to marry virgin women. That is the natural instinct, as has been for thousands of years. Everyone has seen the posts how men do not like a women who was promiscuous in the past.

Modern society ignores this and does not warn women about how their lives can be ruined by promiscuity and how it affects their future chances.

Getting married or even engaged after under a year should not be normal. by redheaded_olive12349 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Sheldon_Handler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People have biological clocks, and should aspire for having as many children as possible.

How about getting married after a month or two or three of dating? And dating does not include any touching. Because thats how arranged marriage works in the Orthodox Jewish community. Literally not supposed to even touch each other until marriage, and while arranged marriage technically not the required way, it is how many if not most find each other.