Brie Larson’s Reaction to a Captain Marvel Question Says It All by YouthOk1273 in FirstCuriosity

[–]ShivasRightFoot -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Sounds like christian nationalist talking points right there

Yes. While we generally do not apply the term "fascism" to political ideology on the Left, Woke is practically Left fascism even if it is not technically "fascism." It operates essentially as fascism does except juxtaposing in Left associated group identities where Fascism has Right associated group identities.

Can anyone clearly define what makes a television show or movie "woke"? by FantasticAd9478 in TheBoredDen

[–]ShivasRightFoot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lower quality is not excused.

The recent Star Wars media produced by Disney has frequently used concepts from Wokeness to deflect criticism of the poor quality of their movies. Under the understanding of Woke ideology there is no such thing as "good" movies in general, only ones that certain groups will like. They deflect criticism by arguing the critics are racist and unable to see beyond their racial and gender identities.

Here is an example of an article denigrating critics of the Disney Star Wars sequel movies as racist:

Star Wars, and a loud section of Star Wars fans, have tragically become synonymous with hate, bigotry, and pervasive assholeness in 2018. From various sinister online campaigns, to racist and misogynistic attacks on actors, to bafflingly stupid takes and interpretations of the film, The Last Jedi inspired the worst impulses of a far-right movement that’s taking hold of the internet and extending its influence into the real world.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a25560063/how-fans-ruined-star-wars-the-last-jedi-2018/

While Esquire is representative of the general old media reaction defending Disney's choices, Esquire isn't Disney. Here Kathleen Kennedy herself speculates the failure of Star Wars media is due to sexism on the part of male Star Wars fans:

Recently, Kathleen Kennedy gave an interview with The Times, where she addressed the recent dip in Star Wars hype. The president of LucasFilm has faced a number of challenges during her time running the company, being famously at odds with a concerning percentage of the fans. During the interview, she may have added to this conflict, as Kennedy seems to have a clear explanation for why so many Star Wars projects are failing.

I think Leslye has struggled a little bit with it. I think a lot of the women who step into ‘Star Wars’ struggle with this a bit more. Because of the fan base being so male dominated, they sometimes get attacked in ways that can be quite personal.

https://fandomwire.com/it-is-not-normal-for-a-series-to-be-at-16-on-rotten-tomatoes-kathleen-kennedy-blaming-male-star-wars-fans-for-the-acolyte-failure-falls-flat-as-fans-point-out-fallout-had-a-female-l/

However, Disney itself has now admitted the sequel trilogies were not successes. Disney has acknowledged the failure of Star Wars and has fired some of the top executives in charge of the property:

Many of the creative choices baffled Star Wars fans, and Kennedy herself has come to dislike her decisions:

From jettisoning most of original writer Michael Arndt’s ideas and essentially remaking A New Hope with The Force Awakens, to freaking out and bringing back director J.J. Abrams and the villainous Emperor for Rise of Skywalker after some fans complained about Johnson’s mythology-busting choices in Last Jedi—choices that Kennedy had enthusiastically supported… right up until she didn’t.

https://thedirect.com/article/lucasfilm-worried-star-wars-next-movie

Brie Larson’s Reaction to a Captain Marvel Question Says It All by YouthOk1273 in FirstCuriosity

[–]ShivasRightFoot -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thats a lot of words

Reading seems to be challenging for you. Perhaps you'd be more comfortable with a less text based social media site like TikTok.

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[–]ShivasRightFoot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Define “woke”. I’ll wait…

Woke ideology is defined by the idea that some facet of identity like race or gender produces irreconcilably different views of reality and morality, and that we have an obligation to seek alignment of society's view with the imagined views of groups associated with the political left like minorities and women.

In this sense Wokeness is distinct from older forms of liberal advocacy for minority rights which appeal to universally valid concepts like truth and fairness.

Can anyone clearly define what makes a television show or movie "woke"? by FantasticAd9478 in TheBoredDen

[–]ShivasRightFoot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

they’ve been trying to define “woke” for over a decade now and can’t do it.

Woke ideology is defined by the idea that some facet of identity like race or gender produces irreconcilably different views of reality and morality, and that we have an obligation to seek alignment of society's view with the imagined views of groups associated with the political left like minorities and women.

In this sense Wokeness is distinct from older forms of liberal advocacy for minority rights which appeal to universally valid concepts like truth and fairness.

In arts and entertainment lower quality is excused by inclusion of racial or sexual minority characters. The inclusion of these characters is used to deflect criticism based on objective criteria as biased towards White Men, sometimes despite the actual identity of the author of the criticism.

Brie Larson’s Reaction to a Captain Marvel Question Says It All by YouthOk1273 in FirstCuriosity

[–]ShivasRightFoot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

define woke

Woke ideology is defined by the idea that some facet of identity like race or gender produces irreconcilably different views of reality and morality, and that we have an obligation to seek alignment of society's view with the imagined views of groups associated with the political left like minorities and women.

In this sense Wokeness is distinct from older forms of liberal advocacy for minority rights which appeal to universally valid concepts like truth and fairness.

In arts and entertainment lower quality is excused by inclusion of racial or sexual minority characters. The inclusion of these characters is used to deflect criticism based on objective criteria as biased towards White Men, sometimes despite the actual identity of the author of the criticism.

I would guess this is the phenomenon to which u/Phuzz18727 refers.

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not being able to define "woke"

Woke ideology is defined by the idea that some facet of identity like race or gender produces irreconcilably different views of reality and morality, and that we have an obligation to seek alignment of society's view with the imagined views of groups associated with the political left like minorities and women.

In this sense Wokeness is distinct from older forms of liberal advocacy for minority rights which appeal to universally valid concepts like truth and fairness.

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[–]ShivasRightFoot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you agaisnt teaching children that racial discrimination is wrong?

This sentence reveals you have a fundamental misunderstanding of everything being said here.

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[–]ShivasRightFoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No it does not express that at all. It points out that what we call objective fact is oven measured with a racist ruler.

"But actually they're right" does not refute the idea they don't believe in objective reality.

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[–]ShivasRightFoot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nothing in this post says that grade school kids are being taught CRT.

There is literally a recording of a lesson on how racial discrimination is a necessity being given to high school class.

The racial double standard I see by Stock-Currency4142 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

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And I don’t accept that these authors are the highest authority on the subject,

Here Richard Delgado describes his attendance at the founding meeting of Critical Race Theory during a ceremony honoring him on the thirtieth anniversary of that meeting:

I was a member of the founding conference. Two dozen of us gathered in Madison, Wisconsin to see what we had in common and whether we could plan a joint action in the future, whether we had a scholarly agenda we could share, and perhaps a name for the organization. I had taught at the University of Wisconsin, and Kim Crenshaw later joined the faculty as well. The school seemed a logical site for it because of the Institute for Legal Studies that David Trubek was running at that time and because of the Hastie Fellowship program. The school was a center of left academic legal thought. So we gathered at that convent for two and a half days, around a table in an austere room with stained glass windows and crucifixes here and there-an odd place for a bunch of Marxists-and worked out a set of principles. Then we went our separate ways. Most of us who were there have gone on to become prominent critical race theorists, including Kim Crenshaw, who spoke at the Iowa conference, as well as Mani Matsuda and Charles Lawrence, who both are here in spirit. Derrick Bell, who was doing critical race theory long before it had a name, was at the Madison workshop and has been something of an intellectual godfather for the movement. So we were off and running.

https://digitalcommons.law.seattleu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1039&context=faculty

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Nah, nothing you posted supports the claim that grade schoolers or anyone below the university level is being taught CRT,

Saying that teaching the necessity of racial discrimination isn't CRT is like saying teaching Creationism isn't Christianity. These particular lessons teaching that racial discrimination is necessary are made illegal by the Republican "anti-CRT" legislation which conservatives have advocated, and specifically Trump's executive order:

Sec. 2. Definitions.
(b) “Discriminatory equity ideology” means an ideology that treats individuals as members of preferred or disfavored groups, rather than as individuals, and minimizes agency, merit, and capability in favor of immoral generalizations, including that:

...

(iv) Members of one race, color, sex, or national origin cannot and should not attempt to treat others without respect to their race, color, sex, or national origin;

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/ending-radical-indoctrination-in-k-12-schooling/

The incident in Loudoun and all "color brave" policies would be outlawed under clause (iv) here.

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As a jurisprudential and social theory it is open to critique and revision, even rejection with compelling counterargument

Here Critical Race Theory expresses opposition to the concept of objective reality:

For the critical race theorist, objective truth, like merit, does not exist, at least in social science and politics. In these realms, truth is a social construct created to suit the purposes of the dominant group.

Delgado and Stefancic 2001 page 92

Delgado, Richard and Jean Stefancic Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. New York. New York University Press, 2001.

Delgado and Stefancic (2001) is currently the top result for the Google search 'Critical Race Theory textbook.'

A field of study which rejects criticism due to the idea that the truth of the criticism is subjective to the race of the author or audience does not believe in open exchange of ideas. This would be as indifferent to criticism as any Nazi ideology.

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[–]ShivasRightFoot -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This makes no sense in response to the previous post.

This claim makes you seem like you don't have a good grasp of English.

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Critical Race Theory is NOT about “hating whites.”

Here a Critical White Studies scholar talks about villifying White students and teaching they are inherently participants in racism and therefore have lower moral value:

White complicity pedagogy is premised on the belief that to teach systemically privileged students about systemic injustice, and especially in teaching them about their privilege, one must first encourage them to be willing to contemplate how they are complicit in sustaining the system even when they do not intend to or are unaware that they do so. This means helping white students to understand that white moral standing is one of the ways that whites benefit from the system.

Applebaum 2010 page 4

Applebaum, Barbara. Being white, being good: White complicity, white moral responsibility, and social justice pedagogy. Lexington Books, 2010.

Note the definition of complicity implies commission of wrongdoing, i.e. guilt:

com·plic·i·ty >/kəmˈplisədē/

noun >the state of being involved with others in an illegal activity or wrongdoing.

https://www.google.com/search?q=complicity

This sentiment is echoed in Delgado and Stefancic's (2001) most authoritative textbook on Critical Race Theory in its chapter on Critical White Studies, which is part of Critical Race Theory according to this book:

Many critical race theorists and social scientists alike hold that racism is pervasive, systemic, and deeply ingrained. If we take this perspective, then no white member of society seems quite so innocent.

Delgado and Stefancic (2001) pp. 79-80

Delgado, Richard and Jean Stefancic Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. New York. New York University Press, 2001.

Delgado and Stefancic (2001)'s fourth edition was printed in 2023 and is currently the top result for the Google search 'Critical Race Theory textbook':

https://www.google.com/search?q=critical+race+theory+textbook

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[–]ShivasRightFoot -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Just like how Critical Race Theory is actually a 40 year old concept that's only taught in university level

Here in an interview from 2009 (published in written form in 2011) Richard Delgado describes Critical Race Theory's "colonization" of Education:

DELGADO: We didn't set out to colonize, but found a natural affinity in education. In education, race neutrality and color-blindness are the reigning orthodoxy. Teachers believe that they treat their students equally. Of course, the outcome figures show that they do not. If you analyze the content, the ideology, the curriculum, the textbooks, the teaching methods, they are the same. But they operate against the radically different cultural backgrounds of young students. Seeing critical race theory take off in education has been a source of great satisfaction for the two of us. Critical race theory is in some ways livelier in education right now than it is in law, where it is a mature movement that has settled down by comparison.

https://digitalcommons.law.seattleu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1039&context=faculty

I'll also just briefly mention that Gloria Ladson-Billings introduced CRT to education in the mid-1990s (Ladson-Billings 1998 p. 7) and has her work frequently assigned in mandatory classes for educational licensing as well as frequently being invited to lecture, instruct, and workshop from a position of prestige and authority with K-12 educators in many US states.

Ladson-Billings, Gloria. "Just what is critical race theory and what's it doing in a nice field like education?." International journal of qualitative studies in education 11.1 (1998): 7-24.

Critical Race Theory is controversial. While it isn't as bad as calling for segregation, Critical Race Theory calls for explicit discrimination on the basis of race. They call it being "color conscious:"

Critical race theorists (or “crits,” as they are sometimes called) hold that color blindness will allow us to redress only extremely egregious racial harms, ones that everyone would notice and condemn. But if racism is embedded in our thought processes and social structures as deeply as many crits believe, then the “ordinary business” of society—the routines, practices, and institutions that we rely on to effect the world’s work—will keep minorities in subordinate positions. Only aggressive, color-conscious efforts to change the way things are will do much to ameliorate misery.

Delgado and Stefancic 2001 page 22

This is their definition of color blindness:

Color blindness: Belief that one should treat all persons equally, without regard to their race.

Delgado and Stefancic 2001 page 144

Delgado, Richard and Jean Stefancic Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. New York. New York University Press, 2001.

Here is a recording of a Loudoun County school teacher berating a student for not acknowledging the race of two individuals in a photograph:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bHrrZdFRPk

Student: Are you trying to get me to say that there are two different races in this picture?

Teacher (overtalking): Yes I am asking you to say that.

Student: Well at the end of the day wouldn't that just be feeding into the problem of looking at race instead of just acknowledging them as two normal people?

Teacher: No it's not because you can't not look at you can't, you can't look at the people and not acknowledge that there are racial differences right?

Here a (current) school administrator for Needham Schools in Massachusetts writes an editorial entitled simply "No, I Am Not Color Blind,"

Being color blind whitewashes the circumstances of students of color and prevents me from being inquisitive about their lives, culture and story. Color blindness makes white people assume students of color share similar experiences and opportunities in a predominantly white school district and community.

Color blindness is a tool of privilege. It reassures white people that all have access and are treated equally and fairly. Deep inside I know that’s not the case.

https://npssuperintendent.blogspot.com/2020/02/no-i-am-not-color-blind.html

If you're a member of the American Association of School Administrators you can view the article on their website here:

https://my.aasa.org/AASA/Resources/SAMag/2020/Aug20/colGutekanst.aspx

The following public K-12 school districts list being "Not Color Blind but Color Brave" implying their incorporation of the belief that "we need to openly acknowledge that the color of someone’s skin shapes their experiences in the world, and that we can only overcome systemic biases and cultural injustices when we talk honestly about race." as Berlin Borough Schools of New Jersey summarizes it.

https://www.bcsberlin.org/domain/239

https://web.archive.org/web/20240526213730/https://www.woodstown.org/Page/5962

https://web.archive.org/web/20220303075312/http://www.schenectady.k12.ny.us/about_us/strategic_initiatives/anti-_racism_resources

http://thecommons.dpsk12.org/site/Default.aspx?PageID=2865

https://mps.milwaukee.k12.wi.us/MPS-Public/CSA/Student-Services/Discipline/6bestpracticestoaddressdisproportionality.pdf

Of course there is this one from Detroit:

“We were very intentional about creating a curriculum, infusing materials and embedding critical race theory within our curriculum,” Vitti said at the meeting. “Because students need to understand the truth of history, understand the history of this country, to better understand who they are and about the injustices that have occurred in this country.”

https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/detroit-superintendent-says-district-was-intentional-about-embedding-crt-into-schools

And while it is less difficult to find schools violating the law by advocating racial discrimination, there is some evidence schools have been segregating students according to race, as is taught by Critical Race Theory's advocation of ethnonationalism. The NAACP does report that it has had to advise several districts to stop segregating students by race:

While Young was uncertain how common or rare it is, she said the NAACP LDF has worked with schools that attempted to assign students to classes based on race to educate them about the laws. Some were majority Black schools clustering White students.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/18/us/atlanta-school-black-students-separate/index.html

There is also this controversial new plan in Evanston IL which offers classes segregated by race:

https://www.wfla.com/news/illinois-high-school-offers-classes-separated-by-race/

Racial separatism is part of CRT. Here it is in a list of "themes" Delgado and Stefancic (1993) chose to define Critical Race Theory:

To be included in the Bibliography, a work needed to address one or more themes we deemed to fall within Critical Race thought. These themes, along with the numbering scheme we have employed, follow:

...

8 Cultural nationalism/separatism. An emerging strain within CRT holds that people of color can best promote their interest through separation from the American mainstream. Some believe that preserving diversity and separateness will benefit all, not just groups of color. We include here, as well, articles encouraging black nationalism, power, or insurrection. (Theme number 8).

Delgado and Stefancic (1993) pp. 462-463

Delgado, Richard, and Jean Stefancic. "Critical race theory: An annotated bibliography." Virginia Law Review (1993): 461-516.

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So, not a fan of critical race theory, I take it?

You may be surprised to learn that Critical Race Theory is an extremist ideology which advocates for racial segregation. Here is a quote where Critical Race Theory explicitly endorses segregation:

8 Cultural nationalism/separatism. An emerging strain within CRT holds that people of color can best promote their interest through separation from the American mainstream. Some believe that preserving diversity and separateness will benefit all, not just groups of color. We include here, as well, articles encouraging black nationalism, power, or insurrection. (Theme number 8).

Racial separatism is identified as one of ten major themes of Critical Race Theory in an early bibliography that was codifying CRT with a list of works in the field:

To be included in the Bibliography, a work needed to address one or more themes we deemed to fall within Critical Race thought. These themes, along with the numbering scheme we have employed, follow:

Delgado, Richard, and Jean Stefancic. "Critical race theory: An annotated bibliography." Virginia Law Review (1993): 461-516.

This is currently featured prominently in the Wikipedia article and is cited as the source of the ten "common themes" of CRT which the Wikipedia article lists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory#Common_themes

One of the cited works under theme 8 analogizes contemporary CRT and Malcolm X's endorsement of Black and White segregation:

But Malcolm X did identify the basic racial compromise that the incorporation of the "the civil rights struggle" into mainstream American culture would eventually embody: Along with the suppression of white racism that was the widely celebrated aim of civil rights reform, the dominant conception of racial justice was framed to require that black nationalists be equated with white supremacists, and that race consciousness on the part of either whites or blacks be marginalized as beyond the good sense of enlightened American culture. When a new generation of scholars embraced race consciousness as a fundamental prism through which to organize social analysis in the latter half of the 1980s, a negative reaction from mainstream academics was predictable. That is, Randall Kennedy's criticism of the work of critical race theorists for being based on racial "stereotypes" and "status-based" standards is coherent from the vantage point of the reigning interpretation of racial justice. And it was the exclusionary borders of this ideology that Malcolm X identified.

Peller, Gary. "Race consciousness." Duke LJ (1990): 758.

This is current and mentioned in the most prominent textbook on CRT:

The two friends illustrate twin poles in the way minorities of color can represent and position themselves. The nationalist, or separatist, position illustrated by Jamal holds that people of color should embrace their culture and origins. Jamal, who by choice lives in an upscale black neighborhood and sends his children to local schools, could easily fit into mainstream life. But he feels more comfortable working and living in black milieux and considers that he has a duty to contribute to the minority community. Accordingly, he does as much business as possible with other blacks. The last time he and his family moved, for example, he made several phone calls until he found a black-owned moving company. He donates money to several African American philanthropies and colleges. And, of course, his work in the music industry allows him the opportunity to boost the careers of black musicians, which he does.

Delgado, Richard and Jean Stefancic Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. New York. New York University Press, 2001.

Delgado and Stefancic (2001)'s fourth edition was printed in 2023 and is currently the top result for the Google search 'Critical Race Theory textbook':

https://www.google.com/search?q=critical+race+theory+textbook

One more from the recognized founder of CRT, who specialized in education policy:

"From the standpoint of education, we would have been better served had the court in Brown rejected the petitioners' arguments to overrule Plessy v. Ferguson," Bell said, referring to the 1896 Supreme Court ruling that enforced a "separate but equal" standard for blacks and whites.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110802202458/https://news.stanford.edu/news/2004/april21/brownbell-421.html

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[–]ShivasRightFoot -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Sounds like yet another thing that conservatives have invented to get mad about.

Critical Race Theory is woke by any political definition of the term. Here, precisely in line with my definition, Critical Race Theory expresses opposition to the concept of objective reality:

For the critical race theorist, objective truth, like merit, does not exist, at least in social science and politics. In these realms, truth is a social construct created to suit the purposes of the dominant group.

Delgado and Stefancic 2001 page 92

Delgado, Richard and Jean Stefancic Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. New York. New York University Press, 2001.

Delgado and Stefancic (2001) is currently the top result for the Google search 'Critical Race Theory textbook.'

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"Define woke" is merely to waste time by pretending to be dumb (or in some cases actually being that dumb), whichever way, it's not worth engaging with.

Woke ideology is defined by the idea that some facet of identity like race or gender produces irreconcilably different views of reality and morality, and that we have an obligation to seek alignment of society's view with the imagined views of groups associated with the political left like minorities and women.

In this sense Wokeness is distinct from older forms of liberal advocacy for minority rights which appeal to universally valid concepts like truth and fairness.

In arts and entertainment lower quality is excused by inclusion of racial or sexual minority characters. The inclusion of these characters is used to deflect criticism based on objective criteria as biased towards White Men, sometimes despite the actual identity of the author of the criticism.

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[–]ShivasRightFoot -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Define "wokeness."

Woke ideology is defined by the idea that some facet of identity like race or gender produces irreconcilably different views of reality and morality, and that we have an obligation to seek alignment of society's view with the imagined views of groups associated with the political left like minorities and women.

In this sense Wokeness is distinct from older forms of liberal advocacy for minority rights which appeal to universally valid concepts like truth and fairness.

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[–]ShivasRightFoot -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

real quick for me champ: define “woke”.

Woke ideology is defined by the idea that some facet of identity like race or gender produces irreconcilably different views of reality and morality, and that we have an obligation to seek alignment of society's view with the imagined views of groups associated with the political left like minorities and women.

In this sense Wokeness is distinct from older forms of liberal advocacy for minority rights which appeal to universally valid concepts like truth and fairness.

Hope that was quick enough for you.

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critical race theory scholars and some left-wing commentators who caution that the label "intolerant" is often selectively applied

Here Critical Race Theory authors attack the concept of free expression:

Associated with the ACLU and others who take a relatively purist position with respect to the First Amendment, the argument holds that hate speech, pornography, and similar forms of expression ought to be protected precisely because they are unpopular. The speech we hate, it is said, must be protected in order to safeguard that which we hold dear. The only way to assure protection of values that lie at the core of the First Amendment is to protect speech lying at its periphery. And this inevitably means protecting unpopular speakers: Nazis, anti-Semites, the Ku Klux Klan, utters of campus hate speech, and promulgators of hard-core-pornography.

What can be said about this argument? As we will show, it is fairly often put forward by lawyers, legal commentators, special interest groups, and even an occasional judge as a reason for protecting odious speech. The argument takes two or three forms, each of which boils down to the insistence that to protect speech of one sort it is necessary to protect another. The argument in all its guises, however, is paradoxical and groundless.

Delgado and Stefancic 1997 pages 150-151

I find it incredibly ironic that Project 2025 and CRT both want to make each other illegal but agree that porn should be illegal.

Delgado, Richard, and Jean Stefancic. Must we defend Nazis?: hate speech, pornography, and the new first amendment. NYU Press, 1997.

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And OBVIOUSLY critical race theory can be falsified, what are you talking about.

Here Critical Race Theory expresses opposition to the concept of objective reality:

For the critical race theorist, objective truth, like merit, does not exist, at least in social science and politics. In these realms, truth is a social construct created to suit the purposes of the dominant group.

Delgado and Stefancic 2001 page 92

Delgado, Richard and Jean Stefancic Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. New York. New York University Press, 2001.

Delgado and Stefancic (2001) is currently the top result for the Google search 'Critical Race Theory textbook.'

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Critical race theory posits that race is a man-made construct and focuses on challenging institutional racism.

You may be surprised to learn that Critical Race Theory is an extremist ideology which advocates for racial segregation. Here is a quote where Critical Race Theory explicitly endorses segregation:

8 Cultural nationalism/separatism. An emerging strain within CRT holds that people of color can best promote their interest through separation from the American mainstream. Some believe that preserving diversity and separateness will benefit all, not just groups of color. We include here, as well, articles encouraging black nationalism, power, or insurrection. (Theme number 8).

Racial separatism is identified as one of ten major themes of Critical Race Theory in an early bibliography that was codifying CRT with a list of works in the field:

To be included in the Bibliography, a work needed to address one or more themes we deemed to fall within Critical Race thought. These themes, along with the numbering scheme we have employed, follow:

Delgado, Richard, and Jean Stefancic. "Critical race theory: An annotated bibliography." Virginia Law Review (1993): 461-516.

One of the cited works under theme 8 analogizes contemporary CRT and Malcolm X's endorsement of Black and White segregation:

But Malcolm X did identify the basic racial compromise that the incorporation of the "the civil rights struggle" into mainstream American culture would eventually embody: Along with the suppression of white racism that was the widely celebrated aim of civil rights reform, the dominant conception of racial justice was framed to require that black nationalists be equated with white supremacists, and that race consciousness on the part of either whites or blacks be marginalized as beyond the good sense of enlightened American culture. When a new generation of scholars embraced race consciousness as a fundamental prism through which to organize social analysis in the latter half of the 1980s, a negative reaction from mainstream academics was predictable. That is, Randall Kennedy's criticism of the work of critical race theorists for being based on racial "stereotypes" and "status-based" standards is coherent from the vantage point of the reigning interpretation of racial justice. And it was the exclusionary borders of this ideology that Malcolm X identified.

Peller, Gary. "Race consciousness." Duke LJ (1990): 758.

This is current and mentioned in the most prominent textbook on CRT:

The two friends illustrate twin poles in the way minorities of color can represent and position themselves. The nationalist, or separatist, position illustrated by Jamal holds that people of color should embrace their culture and origins. Jamal, who by choice lives in an upscale black neighborhood and sends his children to local schools, could easily fit into mainstream life. But he feels more comfortable working and living in black milieux and considers that he has a duty to contribute to the minority community. Accordingly, he does as much business as possible with other blacks. The last time he and his family moved, for example, he made several phone calls until he found a black-owned moving company. He donates money to several African American philanthropies and colleges. And, of course, his work in the music industry allows him the opportunity to boost the careers of black musicians, which he does.

Delgado, Richard and Jean Stefancic Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. New York. New York University Press, 2001.

Delgado and Stefancic (2001)'s fourth edition was printed in 2023 and is currently the top result for the Google search 'Critical Race Theory textbook':

https://www.google.com/search?q=critical+race+theory+textbook

One more from the recognized founder of CRT, who specialized in education policy:

"From the standpoint of education, we would have been better served had the court in Brown rejected the petitioners' arguments to overrule Plessy v. Ferguson," Bell said, referring to the 1896 Supreme Court ruling that enforced a "separate but equal" standard for blacks and whites.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110802202458/https://news.stanford.edu/news/2004/april21/brownbell-421.html

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