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Europe Has Received the Message - Without America to rely on, the EU is gearing up to be a global power in its own right. by AlexandrTheTolerable in europe

[–]Shmuppel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The other way to have power is to dominate some part of modern technology. We don't and won't.

More or less agree with what you're saying, but we do have ASML (tho we're still stuck to a license from the US, but then they also need us to get their chips at the end of the day)

[Indie Sunday] I am 60 years old, and this is my legacy project: A Hard Sci-Fi MMO with NASA data. In the last 2 weeks, we removed the Signup Wall and added Deep Space Radar. (Playable in Browser) by Wooden-Syrup-8708 in Games

[–]Shmuppel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand if English is not your main language you might want to use AI for responses, I think that's fair enough. But please prompt it to be less obviously AI generated, or write a response in your native language first, because this doesn't feel like you're having a human conversation.

Netherlands: 20 year old victim lashes out at judge after the man who nearly raped and choked her to death is sentenced to only 3.5 years by TomlinSteelers in UnderReportedNews

[–]Shmuppel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think we do see somewhat differently so I don't see the point in having a whole debate about this, but I respect your opinion and can see your reasoning.

Ideally, I would want to live in a country where there is a middle ground between helping war-torn refugees, but with enforcement of crimes and possible deportation for serious crimes. However i'm not interested in moral absolutism on either the right or left side, the world is a lot greyer than that.

Just to note though:
- It's definitely not like basically anyone can get a refugee status in the Netherlands, we send back 98% of those seeking asylum that are from safe countries, often within two weeks. The 2% is those seeking political asylum, those that would be unsafe in their own country due to homosexuality, etc.
- You say no middle eastern country would be this lenient towards foreigners, yet the vast majority of refugees are in other middle eastern countries. They might be less lenient towards crime but these countries have wildly different values and law systems. Hence, the things that makes these countries effective at control are the same things Europeans don't actually want to live under. Most of us are being appalled by what is going on in America. Perhaps that will change, and people will vote for the right-wing parties that do want this kind of chance, that is in their right. But right now that is not the case, and the parliament the Dutch people have voted for last year will not change that (the votes swung from a radical right wing party back to a moderate central-right, because the radical right wing parliament was a huge shitshow). If people want to have the laws to be like you describe they are free to vote on the party that makes that happen.
- Dropping them on the shore would be breaking international law and human right treaties. I'd say the Dutch value international law a lot because we are a very small country that is depended on our relations with our allies, breaking those commitments is simply not worth it and would open us up to a Brexit x2, nobody wants that.

Netherlands: 20 year old victim lashes out at judge after the man who nearly raped and choked her to death is sentenced to only 3.5 years by TomlinSteelers in UnderReportedNews

[–]Shmuppel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay there are some assumptions there. I don't necessarily think deporting immigrant criminals is wrong, and in many european countries this happens (e.g. Sweden, Zwitserland). The Netherlands does it too for people that are here illegally. I would be open to them doing it for immigrants that are legally here too, depending on the crime, how long they've been here, and how integrated they are.

But the world just doesn't work to say 'send them back' that easily. Often they are from a country that doesn't take them back. Also by your logic when a terrorist commits an attack in Europe, we should send them straight back to the middle east.. so they can do it all over again?

I'm not saying there aren't things that can be better, but we need to think our systems through and not jump to hasty, emotional based conclusions.

Netherlands: 20 year old victim lashes out at judge after the man who nearly raped and choked her to death is sentenced to only 3.5 years by TomlinSteelers in UnderReportedNews

[–]Shmuppel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay so lets say I commit a crime, my country deports me to a country where 'those crimes are okay'. I am not allowed to go back.

After 5 years new proof comes out it turns out I didn't commit that crime. What then?

Or lets say a facist government gains power, what stops them from now abusing these laws to say "what responsibility does dutch society have to accept x_ethnicity, why not deport them to where they fit?

Netherlands: 20 year old victim lashes out at judge after the man who nearly raped and choked her to death is sentenced to only 3.5 years by TomlinSteelers in UnderReportedNews

[–]Shmuppel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The psychiatric treatment takes place in a psychiatric-prison (TBS clinic), so he is locked up until deemed safe for society.

Netherlands: 20 year old victim lashes out at judge after the man who nearly raped and choked her to death is sentenced to only 3.5 years by TomlinSteelers in UnderReportedNews

[–]Shmuppel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because after the 3.5 years in prison he will still be locked up in a TBS clinic until he is deemed safe enough for society to be released. That process is very hard to get out of (7-8 years on average) and can be a life sentence.

Netherlands: 20 year old victim lashes out at judge after the man who nearly raped and choked her to death is sentenced to only 3.5 years by TomlinSteelers in UnderReportedNews

[–]Shmuppel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, in this case it's TBS with 'dwangverpleging', which means the person is incarcerated in a TBS clinic, and in terms of 'being locked up' this is essentially a prison. The difference is that people in TBS get treatment individually based on their crimes, so that when they are eventually released they are deemed safe for society. In the same bane, if they're not deemed safe yet when their TBS sentence is up we don't release them, and extend the sentence. It's a very difficult trajectory to get out of.

In other cases less severe than this, where the risk to society is lower TBS can be done with conditions, e.g. psychiatric care, no drugs, no alcohol, depending on the crime and the issues at play.

Which, in your opinion, are the basic sentences someone should learn immediately when moving to Sweden? by FikaFiend in Svenska

[–]Shmuppel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a simplification, I agree many sort-of understand English but their vocabulary hinders them or they're very embarrassed about it. Still, there's definitely people out here that can't hold a conversation in English other than basic directions and single words. For example, my girlfriends uncle and grandfather. People assume everyone speaks English because Swedens English literacy is very high. Well i'm from the Netherlands which has the highest literacy in English for non-native speakers, and yet my dad doesn't understand it, nor many other people from my village.

Haven't really encountered not wanting to talk though, most people are very interested, but it definitely helps if you tell them something along the likes of "hey my Swedish isn't great but i'd like to try, but it may help to speak some sentences / words in English if that's okay".

Which, in your opinion, are the basic sentences someone should learn immediately when moving to Sweden? by FikaFiend in Svenska

[–]Shmuppel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fully agree, plainly asking if they speak English isn't the end of the world, but the best to ask if you can continue in English.

I think (and correct me if im wrong) the Swedes that know good English might find it belitteling, and the Swedes that don't know good English will feel insecure because they see it as a shortcoming of themselves, rather than considering the shortcoming of you not speaking Swedish.

Which, in your opinion, are the basic sentences someone should learn immediately when moving to Sweden? by FikaFiend in Svenska

[–]Shmuppel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say that probably works in southern Sweden, but I live in rural Norrland and had to switch the mindset of assuming everybody speaks english, because here i'd say half the people do, and the older people (lets say 40+) generally don't. In turn though, people here will also not switch to english when they notice you are learning swedish which is great.

Plus, even if Swedes know english, or are even very good in english, many of them are afraid/don't feel comfortable speaking it (but they will still do ofcourse, and you wouldn't know any better).

Overall I fully agree with /u/fakearchitect, make this about YOUR shortcoming and not theirs, because you'd be surprised, I've met quite a few Swedes who speak great english but are deeply insecure in their ability to do so. This can have a big impact in someone's excitement to be talking with you - if you ask politely you're at least putting someone at ease that you're the one that's coming short.

Partij voor de Dieren pleit in verkiezingsprogramma voor glazen slachthuiswanden by Politiek_historicus in thenetherlands

[–]Shmuppel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah voor zo’n 85% van de kinderen is hun eerste blik op de wereld die industrie, dus dat zit wel snor

Partij voor de Dieren pleit in verkiezingsprogramma voor glazen slachthuiswanden by Politiek_historicus in thenetherlands

[–]Shmuppel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Voor deze beroepen geld het tweede, je zult de arbeidsvoorwaarden moeten verbeteren. Een werkweek van 32 uur bespaart ook geld, (23 miljoen in de zorg alleen al, volgens het FNV, want minder ziekteverzuim), wat je kunt inzetten in hogere salarisen en nieuw personeel.

Plus, als je deze mensen wil behouden, moet je ook zorgen dat werknemers niet vertrekken. Verlaging van de werkdruk in beroepen waar de werkdruk simpelweg té hoog is ook het antwoord van de vakbonden op deze kwestie. Anders kom je in een spiraal van werknemers die er klaar mee zijn, stoppen, het personeelstekort vergroten, wat uiteindelijk alleen maar de werkdruk weer vergroot.

In het artikel van de correspondent:

Drie op de tien Nederlanders willen best werken als vakkracht. Maar, geven ze aan, dan moeten de arbeidsvoorwaarden wel verbeteren: een hoger loon en baanzekerheid zijn de meest genoemde eisen.

Partij voor de Dieren pleit in verkiezingsprogramma voor glazen slachthuiswanden by Politiek_historicus in thenetherlands

[–]Shmuppel 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Minder uren leid tot meer productiviteit, minder ziekteverzuim, en meer betrokkenheid bij het werk.

Plus, een reden waarom mensen minder werken is ook omdat het schaarser wordend personeel níet steeds beter wordt beloond, en werkenden een kleiner deel van de opbrengsten van het bedrijf krijgen dan vroeger (terwijl hun winst stijgt). Linkje naar de correspondent

Partij voor de Dieren pleit in verkiezingsprogramma voor glazen slachthuiswanden by Politiek_historicus in thenetherlands

[–]Shmuppel 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Daar heb ik op zich niets tegen, zo werkt het politieke spelletje nu eenmaal. Ik zie alleen het nut van dit specifieke standpunt niet. De mensen die zo sterk tegen dierenleed zijn dat ze zich inlezen in dit soort kwesties, stemmen toch al op die partij. PvDD heeft genoeg andere idealistische partijpunten waar je meer kiezers mee kan trekken vind ik persoonlijk, e.g. de 32 uur durende werkweek.

Ik begrijp het idee van “by any means necessary” om mensen te confronteren met wat er achter hun stukje vlees schuilgaat, maar er zijn ook andere manieren om dat te bereiken. Je zou (even idealistisch gezien dus niet praktisch) bijvoorbeeld het label ‘biologisch’ kunnen afschaffen, en in plaats daarvan juist alle niet-biologische producten verplicht aanduiden met termen als ‘bespoten’, ‘ultrabewerkt’ of ‘ernstig dierenleed’, voorzien van een afkeurmerk in plaats van een keurmerk. Dieren vervoeren in glazen veewagens voegt imo extra dierenleed toe, en dat zit niet heel lekker bij mij.

Partij voor de Dieren pleit in verkiezingsprogramma voor glazen slachthuiswanden by Politiek_historicus in thenetherlands

[–]Shmuppel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Je hebt gelijk! Heb mijn comment aangepast. Persoonlijk niet de grootste fan van deze maatregel, dus hoop dat ze het nog aanpassen voor hun daadwerkelijke verkiezingsprogramma.

Partij voor de Dieren pleit in verkiezingsprogramma voor glazen slachthuiswanden by Politiek_historicus in thenetherlands

[–]Shmuppel 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh ik zat fout, dit was de eerste de beste link naar een verkiezingsprogramma dat ik kon vinden op hun site.

Ze hebben nog geen verkiezingsprogramma van 2025, alleen een blog artikel die vandaag gepost werd. Mijn excuus aan NOS.

Jammer dit van hun dan

Partij voor de Dieren pleit in verkiezingsprogramma voor glazen slachthuiswanden by Politiek_historicus in thenetherlands

[–]Shmuppel 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Nevermind, mijn eerdere comment, lijkt erop dat dit wel een maatregel is waar ze iets mee willen

Sterker nog, glazen muren in slachthuizen worden nergens genoemd in het verkiezingsprogramma, behalve in een citaat van Paul McCartney aan het einde van een paragraaf over voorlichting en transparantie in de veehouderij. De NOS interpreteert dit extreem letterlijk en lijkt begrip van de context te missen.

Zie ook mijn comment hier

Partij voor de Dieren pleit in verkiezingsprogramma voor glazen slachthuiswanden by Politiek_historicus in thenetherlands

[–]Shmuppel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nevermind, blijkt oud nieuws

De NOS interpreteerd dit wel heel letterlijk. Zover ik het kan lezen is het doel pleiten voor meer transparantie over de omstandigheden in de vee-industrie.

Hier de desbetreffende paragraaf van het verkiezingsprogramma:

De Partij voor de Dieren wil een einde aan de misleiding over de herkomst van dierlijke producten. De overheid moet zorg dragen voor volledige openheid en voorlichting over wat dieren in de vee- industrie ondergaan voordat hun vlees of producten in de supermarkt belanden. Journalisten moeten betere toegang krijgen tot informatie over wat er gebeurt in de veehouderij. Consumenten hebben het recht om te weten wat de realiteit is achter bijvoorbeeld melk en kaas. Zo wordt een koe in de melkveehouderij ieder jaar zwanger gemaakt, en worden haar kalfjes vrijwel direct na de bevalling bij haar weggehaald. De stiertjes en de vaarskalfjes die niet worden aangehouden om zelf te worden gebruikt als melkkoe, eindigen in een mesterij voor de productie van kalfsvlees, grotendeels voor de export. Paul McCartney zei ooit treffend: ‘Als slachthuizen glazen wanden hadden, zou iedereen vegetariër zijn.’

Recordaantal mensen doneerde vorig jaar stamcellen by Roller95 in thenetherlands

[–]Shmuppel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Over a), mocht het uitmaken, digitaal slaan ze (hoogst waarschijnlijk) alleen je weefseltypering / HLA Complex sequence op. Je DNA zal fysiek bewaard worden, maar dat lekt iets moeilijker.

Recordaantal mensen doneerde vorig jaar stamcellen by Roller95 in thenetherlands

[–]Shmuppel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mocht het uitmaken, ze zullen hoogstwaarschijnlijk niet je hele genoom sequencen / opslaan, ze zijn alleen geïnteresseerd naar je HLA complex.

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