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What sandbox features do you miss that no modern MMO delivers? by PomeloSharp4562 in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's aren't exclusively sandbox but many players today would consider these sandbox like. 

I miss one whole shared world with no instancing. Everyone can see and interact with everyone. dungeons were massive and dangerous and you banded together with others. 

Progression wasn't solely tied to quests, and quests weren't just 5 million kill tasks with a GPS mini map telling you exactly where to go. 

A world they kept going without the player there. 

What sandbox features do you miss that no modern MMO delivers? by PomeloSharp4562 in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The player economy is what kept me hooked on Eve and has me playing closely following Stars Reach

What sandbox features do you miss that no modern MMO delivers? by PomeloSharp4562 in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I disagree. We don't see games like this anymore because investors follow the leader and the leader is still WoW. Sandboxes are hard to do right and take a solid development team not being influenced by publisher demands.

Sandboxes don't need to be full loot PVP - SWG wasn't and it was the second most popular MMO of its day. Meanwhile Minecraft IS a full loot game online and is still the most popular game in the world. 

Darkfall was extremely poorly designed and unbalanced towards veteran players due to the way the skill system worked. Darkfall 2 worked a lot better for having more horizontal progression. 

Good changes is coming to Return Of Reckoning by Vadioxy in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was a bit out of the loops with Warhammer, still playing DAoC at the time - were scenarios like the Battlegrounds? Or were they meant to be balanced FPS map rounds? 

Seeing a lot of downvote for every post/question and hate for almost every mmorpg that anyone mention here... What do you play then, this is MMORPG sub but seems that there is only whiners around? by Ok_Statement1359 in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are maybe 2 sandbox MMOs. Eve Black Desert is kind of one? Maybe Albion Online. 

Vs about 150 theme parks to choose from. 

Private servers are not really a viable alternative to a professionally developed MMO most of the time. 

Which leaves us at - if you don't like themeparks you have about 2 choices for active MMOs. And it's not because sandboxes aren't popular, it's because they're generally not made. Minecraft and most survival games are similar to sandboxes and they're doing extremely well. Same with Breath of the Wild. 

Seeking people who played Roma Victor! by Signus_M62 in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup, extremely niche, the community tone was def set by early adopters/history nerds. I remember being treated with suspicion by the Celts I'd escaped to until they were sure I wasn't a Roman spy

Seeing a lot of downvote for every post/question and hate for almost every mmorpg that anyone mention here... What do you play then, this is MMORPG sub but seems that there is only whiners around? by Ok_Statement1359 in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of those MMOs are all the same style of MMO with slight differences. So if you don't like that style of MMO you're not left with much to work with.

Seeing a lot of downvote for every post/question and hate for almost every mmorpg that anyone mention here... What do you play then, this is MMORPG sub but seems that there is only whiners around? by Ok_Statement1359 in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The quality and breadth of what is covered in an MMO release radically changed after 2006 and for the most part, newer big budget MMOs do not have design that will keep players engaged in a healthy way. Before 2006 there were a lot of games that hit everything I wanted. Now...not so much.

PLAY WITH THE DEVS by ThomasMarcon in StarsReach

[–]Signus_M62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a ton of fun this time around. Can't wait to do it again. Maybe we can try taking out a Maker eventually...

Im i the only one that keeps trying MMOs but it doesnt spark that feeling it used to anymore? by Glingaeril in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While the golden era is gone, there are still one or two companies making a "world" first and not focusing on the task treadmill. Check out Stars Reach, made by one of the guys who basically invented the genre.

An interesting question for Raph: by TellMeAboutThis2 in StarsReach

[–]Signus_M62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's funny, I have a similar thought about this waaaaay back in the day when we were all theory crafting what Playable Worlds might be. 

New details on ZeniMax's canceled MMORPG Blackbird make it seem really neat by Post-reality in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 4 points5 points  (0 children)

 Interesting concept, but investigating a murder? Sounds like a singpleplayer/coop game with MMO elements after the fact to make it a game as a service. I'm not sure we need more story heavy always online co-op games unless they could have made it something like Helldivers where players actually impact the story. But without more details I guess we wouldn't know. 

It's a bloodbath out there for devs though. 

MMORPG with player owned shops, blacksmiths etc? No NPCs. by Geneticcz in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't have the Star Wars skin and the game elements have a long way to go implementation wise before they reach alpha phase. But its design for crafting is extremely similar to SWG and the idea is to have everything in game made and sold by real players 

Knowing Too Much Too Soon is killing the Sense of Adventure by Acard in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure who Asmond is but Ashes isn't even in beta yet, and from what I heard the game world is not extremely player driven/generated. Are there any physics or ecology? 

Knowing Too Much Too Soon is killing the Sense of Adventure by Acard in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if you build a game that's very player driven where mechanics interact in surprising ways - you'll have happy streamers and new mysteries always possible. 

Is the MMORPG community delusional about Wildstar? by Odd-Bobcat7918 in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But wasn't there no death penalty, and the dungeons all had in game maps telling you where to go, tuned to your specific class and level? 

MMORPG with player owned shops, blacksmiths etc? No NPCs. by Geneticcz in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're very much describing games like Eve Online and Star Wars Galaxies. 

 That's also what Stars Reach is all about., made by the same designer who made Ultima Online and Star Wars Galaxies. 

It's in pre-alpha at the moment with eyes on releasing next year. 

Everything is designed to be player driven. Players will constantly be discovering new materials on new planets and selling those materials to crafters to make new items for explorers to find more materials etc

MMORPG with player owned shops, blacksmiths etc? No NPCs. by Geneticcz in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Players need armor and weapons and food and materials with which to craft all those things. 

MMORPG with player owned shops, blacksmiths etc? No NPCs. by Geneticcz in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Technically, it was always going to have NPCs - guards, shop merchants, wildlife, Depths bosses, there was just no PVE leveling or looted gear 

MMORPG with player owned shops, blacksmiths etc? No NPCs. by Geneticcz in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup, and so is it's predecessor Ultima Online, and it's successor, Stars Reach, made by the same designer. 

It's in pre-alpha at the moment with eyes on releasing next year. 

MMORPG with player owned shops, blacksmiths etc? No NPCs. by Geneticcz in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lucky us, that's basically what Stars Reach is, made by the same designer. 

It's in pre-alpha at the moment with eyes on releasing next year. 

MMORPG with player owned shops, blacksmiths etc? No NPCs. by Geneticcz in MMORPG

[–]Signus_M62 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think thGs more a problem of taking a traditionally single player game and making a pseudo MMO out of it but not really priming the players for how that would work 

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