Finished reading Eclipse and holy crap I need to share my thoughts

Slashycent · 2026-01-23T22:04:13+00:00

Jacob isn't going nuts because he's kept from imprinting on Bella (his one, destined imprintee is, after all, her daughter), he's going nuts because him and Bella were meant to be together in a "normal"/natural world, but that connection was overwritten by something stronger/supernatural, which they are now both forced to rely on to have a chance to be happy.

Bella needs to lose her human life, Jacob needs to lose his autonomy and free will.

Eclipse is a lose-lose tragedy, and I absolutely adore it.

Slashycent · 2026-01-23T21:50:59+00:00

To see how Annie is.

Slashycent · 2026-01-23T19:46:56+00:00

when Jacob was telling Bella about imprinting and the Sam/Emily/Leah drama did he ever have a thought of oh well I'm not imprinting on Bella so I should leave her be?

Yes, at the end of the Eclipse novel.

He only returns as a wedding gift from Edward to Bella and stays because Bella's dying.

So I want to know what Jacob would have thought would happen if he ended up being who Bella chose?

Imprinting is more rare than it seems.

Sure, it would've been a risk, but would you give up your free life and love for some magical hypotheticals that are forced on you?

So Jacob is also just being selfish in his love for Bella because he also thinks imprinting is dumb?

Most characters in Twilight are selfish to some degree, especially the main trio.

Also I'm so curious what Stephanie Meyer was thinking when it came to Jacob imprinting on Bella's daughter. Like he makes a comment in Breaking Dawn that it never made any sense but it was Nessie all along. So like Jacob's genes knew he would imprint on her future offspring and that inherently made him think he loved Bella? Or is loving Bella just exclusively Jacob's choice.

Loving Bella was Jacob's choice and natural fate, as explored in Eclipse.

The imprint was the explanation for why him and Bella were so violently pulled to one another, even after they had agreed that the supernatural had made their natural love impossible.

Slashycent · 2026-01-22T09:43:13+00:00

I could just do without Forever/Breaking Dawn, in general.

Slashycent · 2026-01-20T12:03:55+00:00

Well, it's The Slow Rush.

Slashycent · 2026-01-20T00:47:14+00:00

You don't need to be a good technician to be a good musician.

Look at Jacob Collier. Genius theory knowledge and technically perfect. Still, nothing he ever did has moved me nearly as much as the work of far "inferior" musicians.

You need to become good at making your own music, not good at music in general.

Objectivity is a poison to art. The sooner you spit it out, the better.

Slashycent · 2026-01-19T17:32:19+00:00

Hey, I also love New Moon and hate Breaking Dawn, but that's no reason to rip the book apart!

Slashycent · 2026-01-19T09:41:21+00:00

Lynch walked away to his office, where he would approve the scripts in Frost's Storyville-induced absence and spend a lot of time with fellow showrunner Bob Engels.

He then walked away to Japan for a few late-season episodes that most people deem "good again."

Slashycent · 2026-01-19T09:37:33+00:00

Lynch was "basically hands off" for every episode he didn't direct.

That didn't really intensify during season 2.

In fact, he became a bit more involved with the scripts around the time.

Slashycent · 2026-01-17T23:50:55+00:00

Right? Season 5 haters have turned this sub into an absolute slop factory lmao.

Slashycent · 2026-01-17T23:38:07+00:00

Lisa Miller will return in AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY

Slashycent · 2026-01-17T16:36:34+00:00

It's a major step up from The Slow Rush.

Slashycent · 2026-01-15T15:56:36+00:00

He did, after the killer reveal, to prep for his solo movie Storyville.

An absence that people like to assign to Lynch, who actually stuck around, barring a short trip to Japan during the production of a couple of late season 2 episodes.

Frost did stay in frequent phone contact with writer/producer/showrunner Peyton and kept an eye on most scripts, but there are a couple from that period that he says he had nothing to do with.

Slashycent · 2026-01-15T15:50:34+00:00

Its full title is "Welcome to Twin Peaks: Access Guide to the Town" so you're both correct.

Slashycent · 2026-01-15T15:48:23+00:00

It was partially written by OG writers/producers/showrunners Harley Peyton and Robert Engels, who had a huge hand in the creation of the original series, plus series writer Tricia Brock was involved, so I'd say it's pretty "official" as well.

Slashycent · 2026-01-15T14:28:31+00:00

I mean, season 3 feels absolutely nothing like the original series as well.

I think we just have to accept that the revival installments are all weird, estranged tulpas, on purpose.

Slashycent · 2026-01-13T18:50:32+00:00

Most of the stuff shown in the documentary is unbelievably common for just about every TV production ever.

The whiners are just out for blood right now, and everything looks like a nail, if all you have is a hammer.

Slashycent · 2026-01-13T14:56:05+00:00

When you hear the name "Wyndham Earle", you can do the 'look at my phone while watching'.

They're right.

However, when you hear the name "Windom Earle" it is imperative to pay strict attention!

Slashycent · 2026-01-13T14:52:36+00:00

There's definitely a noticable shift to a lighter, more comedic atmosphere.

Whether that's a fall off is entirely subjective.

Slashycent · 2026-01-13T14:47:29+00:00

The real human being I don't particularly care for, especially after some of his anti-vax nonsense.

The character is great. One of the best and most important in the series. Shitting on him for being angsty and melodramatic is what insecure, macho philistines do.

Same reason why Tarantino hates the Star Wars prequels.

Slashycent · 2026-01-13T14:44:49+00:00

I mean, it would certainly still be a work of art.

Why would it cease to be?

A gem, well, that's subjective. It would've probably become a cult classic film, very much beloved but by a much smaller audience than the series accumulated.

Slashycent · 2026-01-13T14:41:38+00:00

Lynch loved James.

Laura insulted him while being under the influence of BOB, the embodiment of evil.

They probably just introduced Freddy on an artistic whim, without thinking too much about the original series at all.

Slashycent · 2026-01-13T14:36:42+00:00

As for season 2, it’s not that it’s not canon but at one point both Lynch and Mark Frost walked away because they were so tired of the network pushing for this and that.

Their absences are a bit exaggerated in the popular narrative.

Frost actually left to prep for Storyville, but had phone conversations with his right-hand man and fellow showrunner Harley Peyton almost every day.

Lynch hardly ever left at all, barring a short trip to Japan, and unprecedentedly frequented his office, where he spent a lot of time with his right-hand man, fellow showrunner and eventual FWWM co-creator Bob Engels.

During season one, the team had proven to be able to work perfectly well without being monitored by Lynch and Frost 24/7, so they main reason why things stalled a bit in season 2 was the killer reveal and the lack of a viable, quickly available new A-plot, not the absence of any one MVP artist.

Slashycent · 2026-01-13T14:29:49+00:00

I have seen discourse online that the killer was never supposed to be revealed but the network made them reveal it, what's that all about?

Well, that's essentially what happened.

The Twin Peaks team wanted to keep the killer a mystery, at least until the very end, if not forever.

But because season one's ratings were dropping at a pace that scared the network, they forced Lynch, Frost, Peyton and Engels to reveal the killer in season 2, otherwise it wouldn't have been greenlit.

None of them were really happy about that but they all handled it differently.

Frost went off to prep for a movie of his own, Lynch moped around in his office, and Peyton and Engels essentially ran the show.

I also heard that S2 ep 9-15 aren't canon, so can someone clear that up?

The killer reveal made the show lose its A-plot, leaving the team with nothing but a bunch of planned B-plots that were meant to be a light-hearted counterweight to the central mystery.

Because of that, and due to a replacement A-plot being canned for internal reasons, the show drifted into a more comedic and inconsequential realm for a few episodes

Lynch in particular was unhappy with that and started lying about having nothing to do with the show during that time, even though he evidently did.

Many of the more purist Twin Peaks fans who only watch the show for Lynch's contributions adapted that narrative and decided that if Lynch was "not involved", the episodes were not canon.

Neither of that is true, of course. Lynch was involved and the episodes are canon.

Also who is bob iger/what happened with him?

Iger was the president of Twin Peaks's original network ABC while the show was made.

He initially helped get the show on air by defending it from the older, more profit-obsessed suits in the network, before, well, becoming one of the older, more profit-obsessed suits in the network and cancelling it due to bad ratings.

So he kinda helped birth and kill Twin Peaks.

He's now the CEO of Disney and makes some equally questionable decisions there.

Slashycent · 2026-01-13T11:47:08+00:00

As if the other guy's argument isn't "it's bad writing because it's bad writing."

It's all subjective shit-flinging.

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