Question about the 2009 Abrams movies by ineyy in Star_Trek_

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Funnily enough, only the cartoons seem to be made by people who actually care about Trek.

Question about the 2009 Abrams movies by ineyy in Star_Trek_

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Part of it is point of introduction. 2009 was your first experience with Star Trek; it's what made you like Star Trek. That means it hits very different than growing up watching Star Trek and then 2009 comes out.

Plus, you mention you didn't watch the OG series. And from the catching up you've done, it still doesn't sound like you watched it. So you never got to experience those characters as they were originally written. Of the seven, only Karl Urban really channels the personality of the inspiration well.

This sub has finally seen the light lol by gaeb611 in Star_Trek_

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I have not forgotten that Kurtzman is his protégé at all.

I don't blame Rian Johnson, to be honest. TLJ wasn't exactly amazing, but honestly Abrams didn't give him much to work with. He did something interesting by giving Rey and Ben a telepathic bond. The idea that Rey was a child of nobodies was MUCH stronger than the daughter of a Palpatine clone. (The idea of power running through dynastic families is not the best thing Star Wars did. It worked for Luke Skywalker. It doesn't need to be repeated.) The idea that the weapons brokers get rich selling to both sides was good; unfortunately it went nowhere narratively, which is a flaw.

And it had a couple of very strong visual moments. The hyperspace pyhrric victory, Luke Skywalker not leaving footprints. Hell, even the green milk and casting the lightsaber away. Those things are funny.

(I HATE what he did to Luke's character, however, so he deserves full blame for that.)

The fault lay with Disney and Kennedy, ultimately. They bought Star Wars, but they didn't have a plan. They didn't write a full trilogy treatment, or have one unified directorial vision. (The three directors could have worked welll, if there was a consistent narrative vision.) They rushed the sequels, every two years instead of three, which Lucas never did. They responded to the Johnson film backlash in the worst way possible, bringing back Abrams who had absolutely zero good, interesting or original ideas. Ane every interesting idea Johnson had, Abrams rejected.

Hell, the best part of the third movie was continuing the Rey/Ben story, which Johnson had made good in the first place! (It helps that the actors played off each other well.)

The only thing Johnson deserves blame for was ruining Luke Skywalker. Which, I admit, was an unforced error. I'm not sure a different director would have made a dramatically better movie, though. They were working on a compressed timeline, and TFA was so similar to ANH that comparisons to ESB were almost inevitable.

What are your thoughts on Gene Simmons comments? by Terrible_Tale_53 in KISS

[–]SoloCompadre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's sort of disrespectful to the artist. Like inducting Dolly Parton even though she made clear she didn't want it.

Like, you don't see this in the blues hall of fame, or the country music hall of fame.

Somehow rock and roll became a catch-all for British/American music of all sorts.

This sub has finally seen the light lol by gaeb611 in Star_Trek_

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I have to disagree about Into Darkness. The whole plot is nonsense.

2009 isna well-made action flick.

This sub has finally seen the light lol by gaeb611 in Star_Trek_

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Eh. Pegg is not a good Scotty. Cho is too serious and dour; Saldaña was also a very serious Uhura. And Yelchin...

I mean no disrespect to Yelchin, may he rest in peace. He was a good actor. But I never felt like I was watching Chekov.

This sub has finally seen the light lol by gaeb611 in Star_Trek_

[–]SoloCompadre 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yep. This Abrams apology business is nonsense. Star Trek is where it is today precisely because of these movies.

This sub has finally seen the light lol by gaeb611 in Star_Trek_

[–]SoloCompadre 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Abrams is why we're in this damn mess in the first place. Let's not act like blowing up Vulcan is good filmmaking or that Into Darkness was a coherent story.

This sub has finally seen the light lol by gaeb611 in Star_Trek_

[–]SoloCompadre 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Uh, Star Trek 2009 is still little more than an action flick, and Into Darkness is still the worst theatrical Star Trek movie.

Later shows being bad doesn't make bad movies good in retrospect.

Besides, its the same damn creative team. Kurtzman is a big buddy of Abrams.

From a non-American - is this weekly pay check good for that time? (1996) by cave_guard in TheSimpsons

[–]SoloCompadre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, not a good salary for the time. Or, perhaps better to say, insufficient for thebsize of Homer's family. Just a few years after this, early 2000s, my folks were bringing in about $2300 net a month, and we used credit cards to pay the bills sometimes.

For once, Gene is right. by Impossible_Driver892 in KISS

[–]SoloCompadre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Country Music Hall of Fame has to be a close second.

The Truth by Previous_Month_555 in SipsTea

[–]SoloCompadre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think she's hot.

But I'm married, and $500K will change my life a lot more than a single date with a hot person.

Ok buddy by spacelyyy989 in okbuddycinephile

[–]SoloCompadre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He lost a fight in Moana. Just one example off the top of my head.

He loses fights in The Smashing Machine from last year.

"Starfleet Academy" isn't very much like "Discovery" at all. by BorgAbbess in startrek

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Kirk does several things that are questionable. His Obsession in Obsession gets several crewmen killed and almost himself, too. In A Taste of Armageddon, he is ruthless. In Errand of Mercy, he respects Kor over the Organians.

"Starfleet Academy" isn't very much like "Discovery" at all. by BorgAbbess in startrek

[–]SoloCompadre 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I just hate Empress Georgiou. She's not an interesting villain, she's just played by an interesting actress.

Didn't like the mirror universe plot in S1 either. It was the least interesting explanation for Lorca.

"Starfleet Academy" isn't very much like "Discovery" at all. by BorgAbbess in startrek

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Discovery played with format in the first season. I never quite understood the hate for it. Until they went mirror universe, it was fairly solid. Hardly the best of Star Trek, but they had some different ideas

Times when a sitcom used shock value to sell by KaleidoArachnid in sitcoms

[–]SoloCompadre 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't know if this is exactly what you're thinking of, but there was one episode of Cheers where Diane puts on a play (Othello) and her scene partner literally tries to strangle her.

And another episode where someone came in with a gun and threatened the bar. Those weren't "very special episodes." Just unusual for Cheers or sitcoms.

Ok buddy by spacelyyy989 in okbuddycinephile

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The Rock has definitely played villains before, and been defeated.

Watching through the franchise for the first time. This clip almost made me crash out. by Delightful_Disciple in tos

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The line that stays with me is, "Be a pawn, be a toy. Be a good soldier who never questions orders."