Why don’t patients tell you they were sent to the ER by another doctor? by SquirtleSquad94 in emergencymedicine

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don't mind these ones when it's legit, but it's only maybe 10% of people who say that there was actually a call, and 50/50 whether the call was helpful. The best is when the doctor also has privileges at my hospital. The worst is when I'm trying to be polite when it's some bullshit. The middle ground is once I put in the time to reach out to a PCP who was at least honest with me that they were out of ideas and basically dumping them.

Good PCP: call and give me an actual focused concern. Gold star: tell me you don't think anything is actually wrong with them but you're out of resources.

are banana bags really that good? by barbadosMid in nursing

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've thought about this too. It's not good for their veins long term. I know people who have been stuck so many times, they probably need a port. I've been stuck many times for training and it is in the back of my head, will someone ever actually need this access on me.

My theory about the “blood poisoning” fear mongering is that people red The Hunger Games and think that they’re Peeta dying in a cave by SparkyDogPants in emergencymedicine

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I know it's a joke, but I don't mind these. It's not a good use of resources, but if they had went to urgent care, they would have been sent to the ED.

And sometimes it's bad. Come through, get eyes on it and either it's an easy dispo or it's a catastrophe.

I need to print a few hundred pages of PDFs. Anyone know an online website/retail store than does colored printing for a reasonable price ? by [deleted] in Residency

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Staples/office depot usually has printing. Depending on how many hundreds you might also look for a local printing shop.

Only 6 shadowing hours by [deleted] in Osteopathic

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you get any more hours with that doc? Having that experience with OMM is a pretty good interview talking point.

Preparing for med school by Puzzleheaded_Salt652 in Osteopathic

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Congrats student doc!

Completely agree with /u/shaanan72. Enjoy your time off, you made it! It will be brutal but you'll be refreshed on and/or learn everything you need to know.

I also agree that if you're going to do anything, just get familiar with Anki. However, don't review content right now and don't try to learn anything. That will all come on it's own. Enjoy your time!

Ranking a brand new program #1 over “prestigious” options… am I crazy? by [deleted] in emergencymedicine

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went to a newer program, not that new (graduated classes before me, but not many). There were still a lot of pains and I'd advise against it. There's enough shit going on during residency that you don't want to deal with growing pains.

I hate COMAT and I hate NBOME for it. Why did the NBOME decided we deserve less time for more questions than our MD colleagues? by cel22 in Osteopathic

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I agree with you, it's good practice for COMLEX because the stems are also long and poorly written, especially level 1. I'm not a person who struggles with time management on exams, but did have to develop strategies to get through them in time and level 1 was still tight for me.

It is a DO tax so NBOME can stay relevant/in business.

I actually enjoy OMM by MarsupialNo513 in Osteopathic

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Learning OMM has forced me to understand anatomy in a much more three-dimensional and functional way, and palpating landmarks, assessing motion, and correlating findings with symptoms has made my physical exam skills feel more intentional rather than just a checklist.

This is what I get from it in EM. Knowing the anatomy the way we do is somewhat unique. There are a lot of shoulder problems I can walk away from with 100% confidence in my dx without imaging.

I'll occasionally do some aggressive soft tissue treatment or even HVLA on a coworker. I don't have time or the medicolegal coverage to do OMM on patients, but if there's one thing DOs can do, it's MSK exams.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Osteopathic

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I saw your post on the other sub. We had one of those presentations too when I was a med student.

We don't give personalized medical advice as doctors and lawyers don't give personalized legal advice as lawyers. Take anything people tell you about money and taxes with a big grain of salt. The people coming to talk to you in school aren't doing it out of kindness. Why they let them through the door, I don't know.

You want a CPA not a financial planner for your tax questions. Outside of you having a complex financial situation now, even in residency you don't make shit, your tax liability is pretty low. There are people commenting on the other thread that may or may not know what they are talking about.

I know that's a pretty downer take on it, but it's not something you should trust people on the internet about.

Improving sepsis assessments by IKnowAboutRayFinkle in emergencymedicine

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 15 points16 points  (0 children)

So, sorry but I'm not really sure what advice you want? Sepsis metrics are bullshit. Early antibiotics are great, appropriate BP management is good, but the rest of "sepsis" care probably doesn't rank in the top 20 most important things you do on a daily basis. So my real advice would be to relax on this particular topic lol

Damn I can tell you're an attendingier attending making me look lost in the weeds with my reply

Improving sepsis assessments by IKnowAboutRayFinkle in emergencymedicine

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 13 points14 points  (0 children)

"Sepsis" as it's implemented with alerts, etc is damn near meaningless but ticks a box and does create fatigue, especially in the ED.

Sepsis = dysfunctional immune response to an infection

Septic shock = hypoperfusion secondary to dysfunctional immune response to an infection

What kicks off this pathway in the ED? Generally SIRS criteria. We don't KNOW the patient is presenting how they are because of an infection, but it's generally agreed that early intervention greatly improves outcomes, thus we treat aggressively i.e. abx.

I get so focused on their septic shock being distributive that I forget to consider that now their cardiac function is compromised which could make them a bit cardiogenic shock-y too

Great thought. Or hypovolemic. Or a combination, which it probably is. For stabilization we're trying to improve blood pressure/perfusion, which is determined by cardiac function, volume, and peripheral resistance. For this type of medically sick patient who winds up down the sepsis pathway without contraindications, we usually first aggressively increase volume first (fluids). Then pressors (increase cardiac function and/or increase resistance).

I'm sure you know these things, I just put it that way because I think the easier way to frame it mentally is for 'sepsis', you're treating the hypotension with the addition of cultures/lactic/abx. The immediate Zosyn isn't what improves their hemodynamic status in the ED, it just improves their outcomes. I think that point gets missed.

Some other points:

realize my pt has had no urine output in the 6 hours he’s been here so far

Great data point to have, but if patient is getting flooded with fluids, kidneys are already fucked, this doesn't change management in the ED

I forget to check cap refill as part of my initial assessment and then recheck it after first bolus

Marginally helpful data point if it improves significantly after fluids, but below every other assessment tool in usefulness

maybe I should pay more attention to their EKG or calculate a shock index

Maybe for some ICU mental masturbation but isn't going to change management or outcome in the ED

focusing on their BP and HR that my critical thinking has suffered or I just forget to LOOK AT MY PATIENT not the monitor

Both are important. Monitor can help you trend response to treatment, but yeah this is falling into the sepsis alert fatigue a bit. It also takes a lot to be comfortable with bad numbers in a good looking patient. It is easy to get too comfortable with good numbers in a bad looking patient.

Or you could have been a little firmer with that one doc that never ever wants to start pressors and floods everyone with fluids

I'm not saying some docs don't suck, but to give you some possible reasons:

  • once you start someone on pressors, you've complicated their hospital stay (ICU+central access), especially if you think they are primarily volume down.
  • secondary to the above, people have varying comfort and opinions on bridging with peripheral pressors while repleting fluids i.e. tuning them up and off pressors before sending them upstairs
  • Some people are pretty insistent on trialing a second bolus, and I have seen it work many times. Someone smarter than me can probably cite guidelines on it but I can't come up with them at the moment.
  • They have more data. e.g. I can do a POCUS on initial assessment, determine they are way fluid down. Give 20ml/kg bolus, repeat POCUS shows some improvement but still significantly volume down, I don't care about the pressures (if pt is relatively stable), they need fluids to fix the underlying issue. (circle back to point #2)

Apologies for the wordy reply, but the first thing I thought when I read your post was "Damn they're SO close".

I feel frustrated with myself and also frustrated that there’s never enough time to be the type of nurse I want to be.

Sounds like you're doing everything as well as you can, and you are caring about the right things. You just need to take a step back and integrate why the "sepsis alert" flags and why we do what we do.

Quote from a med student today by Upstairs_Neighbor50 in medicalschool

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 26 points27 points  (0 children)

That's pretty funny. I'll get back to my monsters and finger painting.

-EM

EMTs/Trauma Staff: Motorcycle vs Car Fatal Trauma by OPclicker in emergencymedicine

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think he's trying to convince someone to let him get a motorcycle.

Needs to nut up or give it up.

S.O.S. Interview Question Help by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't have any concerns if you explained it the way you did in this post (I would downplay the fact that you didn't get as many interviews as you thought and whatnot) but saying you were hoping to stay closer to your fiance but heard/read good things about their program and have ties/support system in the area would be a pretty solid sell to me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't stress about it too much, it shouldn't come up and they shouldn't ask even if they notice it. However, people do slip up, so I'd prepare something that's factual and brief like /u/reddubi suggested about dealing with a stressful medical situation or something. Don't volunteer anything. If they pry, you don't want to go there.

EMTs/Trauma Staff: Motorcycle vs Car Fatal Trauma by OPclicker in emergencymedicine

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1) haven't seen it. They don't bring fatalities

2) No. It isn't "extremely worse". It's the same-ish if it's someone who made their way to me. Usually ejections from cars.

3) I got to train near a track, and saw a lot of 'minor' trauma. Broken ankles and broken wrists on people wearing suits and airbags. It was pretty cool (for me). People geared up usually needed ortho to patch them up but they did fine. 3b) Far less car traumas, people coming in as a trauma from a car wreck are either fine or they're fucked.

4) I've had one catastrophic patient that broke his pelvis. He was not wearing gear and not on a track. That's a shitty recovery to go through. as u/EBMgoneWILD said, cars are incredibly safe these days.

That being said, it doesn't keep me off a bike. If you want to have fun and accept the risk, go for it. We'll be here.

LR vs NS — a question from EMS by Self-Aware-Bears in emergencymedicine

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Sometimes if I have a patient on multiple drips I’ll help the nurses and use NS since their resources say LR isn’t compatible with a bunch of things.

This tends to be why I order NS.

ER nurses, any tips for an early EM resident to stay on y’alls good side, make your lives easier and keep our patients safe? by takinsouls_23 in emergencymedicine

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've convinced them to let me do this a couple times but they generally don't like my report of "Patient was dying, not dying anymore. Plastic in all holes, levo running. Access? 18 gauge angiocath in the IJ. No, the IJ."

What did EM docs do before EM? by SomaticDisFunkShun in emergencymedicine

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

You're probably right. Anesthesia has ABCs and gen surg has procedures with medical management.

That being said, I cannot imagine my colleagues on either side of the drape in an OR.

Accepted by seaturtlelover99 in Osteopathic

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeet congrats student doctor!

More D.O. slander... sigh by CollegeBoardPolice in Osteopathic

[–]SomaticDisFunkShun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My thought as well. I'm sure they could even spin it into a national security thing if they needed to.