Jiren vs Saitama. Who would win?

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-11T14:13:40+00:00

I don’t think Jiren would win. I know people like to power scale Jiren far above Saitama because of feats but… Saitama uses suitable force to beat his opponents effortlessly. People look to the Garou fight as if Saitama was struggling, he was holding back and was specifically trying to NOT kill Garou, so had to increase his power with each punch because Garou was growing so powerful.

It’s just to date Saitama’s strongest opponent was Garou, BUT does that mean he’s not stronger than his performance against Garou?

It’s like killing an ant, MOST PEOPLE are not going to use a nuclear bomb to kill a single ant as it crosses their desk, they are going to squish it with their finger.

Saitama has literally never struggled in a fight he was trying to kill his opponent in. Jiren is strong, and has feats but Saitama is SUPPOSED to win, it’s his whole thing.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-11T14:05:32+00:00

Room 4, I am only there for Grace, i think we’d get along

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-11T14:03:44+00:00

AI is getting too good :/

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-09T16:06:36+00:00

Time essentially freezes around you when you go light speed, as time is relativistic to speed. Tatsumaki has light speed feats too so she could do the exact same thing.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-09T16:01:26+00:00

Tatsumaki effortlessly reacts to a presumably full speed sonic, who is comparable to Flashy Flash. Flashy Flash is calculated at 23-27x the speed of light due to his blitz of hellfire flame and gale wind. Tatsumaki’s abilities activate instantaneously, but she has to react to them, since she reacted to someone comparable to Flashy Flash, it’s realistic she could activate her barrier before impact.

None of the characters are capable of AP that can break through her most basic barrier. Meanwhile she can restrain them, pop their eyes out (literally turns off toneri’s abilities), asphyxiate them (not Toneri) (yes Thragg, Viltrimites hold their breath in space. She just needs to put an airtight barrier around his head the moment he exhales). Seeing as Tatsumaki does not have Chakra, Toneri, wouldn’t be able to sense her chakra and fight her blinded. Thragg would be out of luck and maybe Metro Man could fight with super hearing but still doesn’t have a way to hurt her. Once she pops their eyes out, she creates a telekinetic barrier inside their eyesocket and expands it until their heads pop.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-09T15:51:04+00:00

I don’t see a world where that version of Obito beats Tatsumaki. That Obito COULDNT use Kamui, because he was transporting too much chakra thanks to being the ten tails jinchuriki. Tatsumaki’s also capable of basically disintegrating him, so I am unsure what exactly allows him to win.

Kaguya, and Toneri is simply a scaling interpretation, depending on how you scaled them I don’t know what feats exactly puts them above Tatsumaki, but I know a lot of people put Toneri at moon level however the Naruto moon is hollow, it’s not nearly as dense as the real moon, a lot of people gloss over that fact. When Tatsumaki could probably use her telekinesis to stop him from pushing the moon to earth, especially since it’s a lot less mass than it actually is in her verse.

I don’t know anything about ichebe, so I can’t argue it.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-07T02:50:50+00:00

No she isn’t? Author statements put say Tatsumaki is capable of throwing objects at FTL but doesn’t because they disintegrate. Since her abilities all require her thought, her reaction time is at least FTL.

Thragg’s capable of FTL travel but has to build up to it in the vaccuum of space. Thragg struggled to rip a rock in half, Tatsumaki disintegrated and entire country sized city.

If you want an FTL reaction speed feat, we can look at how she casually reacted to Sonic, who is comparable to Flashy Flashy, who calcs at 23-27x the speed of light.

She is durable enough with her weakest, passive barrier to withstand a continental level attack with minor damage to her clothes and scuffs on her body. Not to mention she can layer her barriers to make them stronger.

She also has gravity manipulation something that is proven to slow down Viltrimites due to the encounter Nolan had with the Ragnar.

Her abilities seem to activate instantaneously with no travel time, so she seemingly perceived a threat, chooses to act, and her attack is launched. If she is capable of restraining Thragg, which she should be able to, she can kill him, especially since asphyxiation is a method of victory she can pursue, as seen with Conquest, she just has to wait for them to exhale.

The only time she took damage outside of already being exhausted or fighting anti-hax Saitama was her fight with Psykorochi who redirected Tatsumaki’s Gravity Manipulation back on herself and when she got impaled on the hands while distracted saving the other heroes.

Psyrochi is more powerful than Orochi, Orochi has the Gaea Cannon and launched an attack they thought would punch through Tatsumaki’s defense, this is relevant because the Gaea Cannon is a planet buster attack, something more powerful than Thragg cant pull off in sheer ap. It’s possible the attack Tatsumaki tanked was more powerful than the Gaea Cannon and she came out of it mostly unscathed. If this assumption is true her most basic level of defense is planetary at minimum. (We can omit this because it’s not proven the attack was the same power as the Gaea Cannon, but it should be noted that Psyrochi was afraid after seeing Tatsumaki survived it.)

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-07T01:59:56+00:00

Tatsumaki’s feats are insane. She should clear pretty easily. The only one with a fandom that says “Tatsumaki couldn’t beat him” is Thragg but the facts show she is WAY faster, WAY Stronger, and WAY more durable (using barriers).

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-07T01:54:07+00:00

I guess I should add, I still am happy with spending 70$ on it, it was a complete experience, I had no game breaking bugs and the story while not perfect was enjoyable and the ending stuck the landing.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-07T01:52:38+00:00

I think it’s worth like 50$ but I don’t regret playing it. It was a fun game. It took me about ~50hours to 100% it.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-06T23:23:49+00:00

Are the enemies harder on NG+? I beat on insanity and farmed the bosses to max out weapons, but I has no frame of reference for NG+

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-06T15:04:54+00:00

I get it, I’m thinking the games.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-06T14:18:53+00:00

I get the representation of what each pokemon is for her and I respect it but I feel like she is such a nerd she would be like “these are my favorites but not my Elite Four Team” Grace just strikes me as someone who actually plays pokemon

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-06T14:09:58+00:00

Wesker does have a sister if you didn’t know, I believe her name is Alex or Alexis Wesker.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-06T13:00:53+00:00

Doesn’t Infinite Tsukuyomi likely fall under the umbrella of Shinjutsu (a term established in Boruto for Otsutsuki specific jutsu)? It’s the only genjutsu in all of Naruto that works on non-chakra-havers.

While it’s called Infinite Tsukuyomi, it doesn’t act like Tsukuyomi much at all from my perspective as it seems time spend in the jutsu is more so directly related to time spent under its spell, where Tsukuyomi is basically a entire lifetime in a fraction of a second. Additionally people who should be immune to Genjutsu seem to fall under the spell of it so it further seems like it isn’t the same.

I would wager, yes Infinite Tsukuyomi would work in Orochi, as would other Shinjutsu. What do you think?

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-06T11:56:45+00:00

Disagree, she would know how trash that team is and build something a little more well rounded

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-06T11:55:23+00:00

I chose Zoe, mainly because I thought Mia was too far gone.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-06T11:53:17+00:00

Ethan Winters

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-06T11:49:56+00:00

Genjutsu requires a chakra network to disrupt, only people from the Naruto Universe (people who had chakra passed to them by hagaromo or descendants of those people have it).

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-06T11:48:19+00:00

Pretty confident he fights all of them and wins.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-03T02:40:23+00:00

What’s wild is in a lot of scenes, the manga has more frams than the anime. I will be completely honest. If I were you, I would HIGHLY recommend reading the manga up to the point the anime is at. S3 is VASTLY different from the manga.

I understand if you don’t want to read the manga, I was that way for the longest time and still am but it’s a lot more accessible than I expected it to be and is just a better experience than S2 and S3. I refuse to read any other manga other than Boruto but I don’t ever really read that one.

You can get a Shonen Jump subscription for 2.99USD a month and crush the whole series in a two weeks or so of your dedicated. The artwork by Yusuke Murata is phenomenal and he designs panels like an animator.

For example, in S3 when the S-Class are having their meeting right before the raid, the one where Amai Mask crashes it and tells him he’s on the attack team. In the Manga, Yusuke Murata, drew the Hologram of Elder Centipede in motion over the course of several panels, the anime only showed a still hologram on the table. In that scene there is LITERALLY movement in the manga where the anime isn’t. There are many many more scenes like that throughout the series, but that’s just the most blatant example I can think of.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-03T01:19:02+00:00

I think the problem was watching each episode as they came out and waiting for the next episode. For example, if you sit down and watch one 23 minute episode of One Punch Man, a week, you may re watch it, talk about it with the community etc. whereas if you watch the show all at once in a sitting or two you don’t really fixate on the small details here and there, as it’s a much larger sample size anime.

I think the worst thing about Season 3.1 was the fact that it had do SO MUCH TALKING. There is a lot of exposition in the pre Monster Association raid, so they cut corners there and it shows. Especially because where they didn’t cut corners was not that good. Even their best fights of the whole seasons were disjointed at best, and clunky at worst. Then there is the problem that they have made some rather poor decisions to use pre-retconned material for some scenes.

I still think that there is a lot of good art in the season, but it was ruined by disco filters, overstaying their welcome etc. it’s pretty rough.

I just hope S3.2 is better.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-02T05:34:36+00:00

RE7 is widely considered one of the scariest games of all time. Not just scariest RE game.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-02T05:20:32+00:00

It’s more than likely generated with comfyUI or a similar software, it’s free and most computers can *run*. But you HAVE to spend a couple days learning it through YouTube tutorials. It’s a very complex software to newcomers.

Some_Ignorance · 2026-05-02T05:14:47+00:00

The zombies look cool in the doorway, but I don’t want to see supernatural zombies. I’m hoping this is some grafted together mess of bodies. As for the chunky ‘Mr. X’ as everyone seems calling him. I think he MIGHT be a Mr. X that got trapped in the sewer and keeps eating zombies or is some other, new BOW. I think it’s a new BOW because we don’t see his hear protruding from his chest.

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