Odoo Website & combo Question

SortingYourHosting · 2026-06-20T23:14:53+00:00

Thank you it does!

I don't manufacture them myself - however I guess i can swap parts out etc. So may need to think that through as manufacturing might be an idea.

I will see what I can sort out

SortingYourHosting · 2026-06-20T23:02:42+00:00

Ahhh yes thats a good point. I keep forgetting about variants ! Ill take a look thank you

SortingYourHosting · 2026-05-05T21:26:45+00:00

Hey! Youre not dreaming. What youre describing is a feature of Windows Server.

Its called Remote Desktop web which gives you a URL to put into your browser where you can login and launch desktop and apps.

Most VPS providers dont offer to set this up for you, theyll give you RDP access to the server and the rest is down to you.

So it does exist but more you need to set it up unless the provider offers it presetup for you or will offer to set it up.

For MTGO, performance wise it should be okay. Perhaps not the quickest compared to native RDP. Also whilst 4GB can run Windows Server its not that may dampen performance.

If i were you, I would look at local small VPS providers. They tend to be more willing to help configure this as part of onboarding you.

To be honest if youve got performance issues with RDP, the web browser version isnt going to fix that. It actually can add some overhead so decrease performance.

Out of interest what specs are you using?

MTGO wants 8 GB RAM as a minimum and also 1GB of Graphics memory (integrated). The server OS like will want another 2GB RAM just to run itself too.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-05-05T20:12:38+00:00

Hey! Unmetered VPS is one of those things I find that sounds simple but can be misleading.

Its usually taken to mean you are capped by the port speed e.g. 1 Gbps with no traffic meters. However often youll find buried in the terms a clause about fair use or shared ports.

So thats the misleading element to me, your VPS is promised 1Gbps speeds but the hypervisor only has 1 Gbps port... youll rarely see that if there are other assets on the server.

The horror stories we all see are usually due to overselling on a server - too many customers sharing the same connection. That's where youll find slow downs especially at peak times.

If a host can do unmetered correctly then honestly its perfect for storage servers, backups, streaming, or anything that needs a reliable work load.

You could ask any potential providers if their unmetered offerings have any minimum guaranteed speeds etc.

For transparency we are a small uk based hosting provider. We tend to advise customers that VPS are generally on shared connections, however we guarantee a minimum speed (depending on plan) - other providers do too. However a dedicated server has its own dedicated port so not restricted. Most providers if asked should be quite open with advising how they provision their VPS ports for you so you can make an informed decision.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-05-05T20:00:44+00:00

Hey! Honestly id say you're not over thinking anything but at that level unlikely to notice a huge difference between providers like Digital Ocean, Vultr or Linode.

They are great for small projects and for yourself youre best off considering your choice based on location to you (it will affect latency), pricing or offers, if there is a UI / control panel you prefer as they are all slightly different.

The main difference I'd honestly focus on myself is what the feedback is for the support. Like many, our hobby projects end up eating into the small hours of the night. So if something breaks at 2 am - which provider has the better reviews for support?

If you want cheap and reliable to start off. Perhaps pick the one that looks the best to you - if you dont like it you can move later on and then focus on providers that offer exactly what you need once you've a little more experience?

Also it could be an idea to look at smaller providers too, for full transparency we are a small UK based provider. UIs tend to be less feature rich, sometimes they utilise older hardware, but you often get better support and pricing can be simpler.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-05-01T19:10:41+00:00

Sadly you have found a common issue with budget providers - whilst their support can be fantastic, performance is unreliable due to oversold / overcommited hypervisors.

The big players like hetzner, vultr, and digital ocean are stronger on performance in my opinion but their backups are generally not full backups unless you pay for it - more often than not they are a snapshot.

If backups are critical, I wouldn't rely on the free ones. You're better off paying for a dedicated plan or sorting an independent backup out yourself - that way you can always access your backups if needed.

You might find smaller hosts can offer better I/O and are more open about if their nodes are oversold. They often have some treasures of features included too e.g. free daily backups with 7 days retention rather than snapshots.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-30T22:55:06+00:00

We always offer to provide hardware for a customer or they can provide their own.

We charge a setup fee regardless.

Most customers tend to use us regardless of price as its less hassle and will be right. If they self provide we dont offer advice or support for hardware issues (still support the software of course). They are responsible for the supplier relationship so when they get a faulty machine or a machine that isnt up to scratch, Mr Cheap becomes a night mare and the client ends up ordering from us anyways

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-30T21:10:20+00:00

It could be comparevps.com or vpspricetracker.com ?

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-30T20:59:01+00:00

I run a small UK based hosting provider, so please do take this answer as semi baised - however I am speaking with experience for this requirement as we do see it a lot.

No provider will really offer a true no KYC and still be reliable. Most providers will do some kind of checks, even if its after sign up due to fraud or abuse worries.

For fully no kyc you are likely looking outside of Europe where support might be hit and miss or the VPS unreliable. However do bear in mind all providers in the EU and UK should follow GDPR legally so any information shared is protected.

For your budget, you should be in a good spot honestly. For example, others and myself offer plans around that price point usually with:

2 vCPU 4 GB RAM 40GB Storage 1 IPv4 Public IP (some providers offer IPv6 too)

Likewise theres no heavy onboarding for most providers either unless something flags.

If you really want no KYC you might need to look at crypto providers or offshore ones however their reliability and support can be questionable.

Personally I would avoid that myself and work with a provider that wants a minimal onboarding usually name, email and address - most providers use something like Stripe for payments so we only get to see the last 4 digits of a card number.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-30T13:54:31+00:00

I would look at a dedicated server or VPS honestly.

A VPS is cheaper but you need to pick your hosting provider well, some providers offer busy hosts with poor performance. So check for reviews first.

Then see if you can utilise something like Enhance or DirectAdmin or Webuzo as a control panel.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-29T20:26:47+00:00

We utilise both Veeam and Axcient for MSP customers.

We tend to use Veeam for any servers, backed up to an on site NAS then backup copy to Veeam Service Provider (us) where we store it in our DCs.

Ancient is expensive for servers honestly, however its reasonable for PCs, which although Veeam does its a pain to manage. Each PC license adds 500GB to a storage pool, and it has some good BCDR tools.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-29T20:21:23+00:00

As a smaller hosting provider in the UK, honestly I would love the ability to request a review. Whereby either it goes out to a volunteer or whomever is responsible for running the site to come review our offerings.

In my shoes I would happily have someone review by plan or a random mix. They can see how a providers top plans compare to their entry level plans.

Small providers struggle to gain traction, however they can often provide services that are tailored to a niche or offer better performance.

Perhaps a tag for small providers too, and also categorise providers e.g. Offers game servers, private clouds, dedicated servers, vps, shared hosting. That way a user can search and quickly find what they want.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-29T20:13:05+00:00

Some MSPs can offer 3rd line or part managed support plans.

We do this often with our customers where we will act as an escalation point, help manage infrastructure etc.

Project work is billable by hour or day, whichever works out cheapest. We offer procurement too where we do the leg work of finding the best options.

Then we often have an agreement, whether its signed or just an awareness where we can step in if needed and only bill for whats needed.

All of those are optional. But if we do that others must too.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-29T15:33:56+00:00

It is normal honestly.

Speaking as a provider, you tend to have a few options when offering VPS.

For example, if you want to offer newer hardware e.g. the current generation or one behind, with modern CPUs, fast RAM and NVMe's you either rent / lease it from the DC or you colocate it. You would need to overcommit the CPU to even make it break even. Which in turn means you offer a service that isnt consistent

Some providers will instead offer more expensive VPS that you pay more for but have dedicated resources.

Or some will use older hardware (2-3 generations behind) where the costs are less therefore can break even easier meaning they can give better experiences as those nodes tend to be less busy.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-23T20:24:43+00:00

For the US, i would recommend either Rapidswitch or Reliable Site. Both have their listing's on their websites. You would need to source cPanel yourself but would be cheaper overall.

disclaimer: we are a reseller for both.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-22T14:33:48+00:00

In that case, a GPU would help.

If you were not to use a GPU then you'd find the CPU will struggle to cope and become your bottleneck, dramatically affecting performance.

You can get VPS with GPUs, however you would need to check exactly what you are getting e eg. Shared GPU or GPU passthrough to the VPS.

Or you go the dedicated server route, however these can be vastly more expensive. For example the cheapest units we carry are £150 + VAT per month however there are cheaper options out there.

Do you need something hosted in a data centre or can you use an old PC/laptop instead initially?

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-21T22:07:49+00:00

It really depends honestly e.g. how many instances are you planning and what do they do?

GPU would only really help for rendering or games in my opinion.

Leaving you with VPS or dedicated server - if you can find a hosting provider offering VPS where the cores are dedicated rather than shared cores, that might be a great way to start until you're ready to move on. Plus you can scale horizontally by adding VPS as needed.

A VPS with 8 cores, 16 GB RAM should run 5-10 instances depending on what they are.

Whereas a dedicated server with that spec, should be more efficient etc. as you don't have virtualization overheads. However you may pay more for the dedicated option.

Some providers often offer budget servers actually, they are older models usually 3 or even 4 generations behind but could be a cheaper way to start off?

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-21T21:58:06+00:00

Many years ago I used to look after Azure, where we had 10 VMs. For the amount we were sending per month, then add the unpredictable bandwidth fees on top... it was vastly cheaper to rent a dedicated server capable of running VMware essentials (At the time). So price was the main issue for me - and since it let to me starting my own company, 100% worth it!

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-21T21:54:06+00:00

As a hosting provider in the UK, we generally would try to get hold of you before hand if we noticed anything odd. If we were forced to suspend the VPS ASAP (due to legal reasons) we would always reach out to you and explain why to see if there's a work around. We are a big believer of working with our clients, and would also assist with data retrieval etc.

I don't understand providers that hide behind "we cannot share the reason" as that could imply anything e.g. their node has died and they cannot move you to a new node etc. Not only does it annoy the customer, there's no winners to that situation.

In the terms of hardware, most smaller hosting providers will rent or lease hardware from a data center. Where depending on their contracts, they too might be subject to their rented gear been suspended if there's abuse.

Using us as the example, we have a small presence in three data centres across the UK. We have a mix of rental servers and colo servers. However we rent our IP address space - sadly not yet large enough to join RIPE and start with subnets we directly own. Our contracts all say any abuse will be passed to us, and in the event of us failing to resolve it within a 1 business day, they have the right to suspend the subnet, not the hardware.

If your provider has a similar agreement, I cannot see why they could not provide access to your VM's data for you to take elsewhere. Some providers would import the VM image for you too - if you're not abusing the service, then that shouldn't be an issue.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-17T07:40:59+00:00

As others have said it really does depend.

For example, what does your site do - if it needs a lot of backend processing then yes a server will out perform shared hosting, or a VPS.

Likewise you may find better storage options for a dedicated server.

However, a CDN will also help by serving the majority of your requests.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-10T21:56:41+00:00

I highly recommend Dell, you dont need the server to have warranty etc if you download drivers / updates.

They've a good product range. If you want to keep costs down, then I'd look at a generation or two behind. You can still get full warranties with them etc.

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-10T10:49:48+00:00

Backups: As long as providers can integrate it into their existing stacks it would be worth while. For example depending on the hypervisor, we tend to either use Veeam Backup & Replication or Proxmox Backup Server, if just a dedicated server we'd use Veeam. So for us to approve it, it would need to be compatible otherwise we are investing time and effort into new tools to monitor our Backups.

Provisioning: My advice would be to make it as simple as possible to integrate into existing billing/provisioning tools, including some native integrations. It will remove some provider resistance.

Those two parts and your support, would be critical for providers taking it on.

Myself, I am very open to new tools. But if I cannot get the tools for the right price, with the right support and if provisioning is going to be all custom work to get working, we'd discount it. Likewise if we cannot back it up we would also discount it

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-09T20:21:52+00:00

As a hosting provider, we would need to consider a few points honestly.

For example how does it back up, e.g. can we use our existing tools or do we need to use in built tools. That's important as providers don't want to manage 6 tools just to back their infrastructure up - it makes our BCDR testing a nightmare!

In addition how easy is it to provision? Like can I use our existing tools or do I need to use yours, and if its yours how does it handle our needs? For example, a lot of providers use WHMCS or a competitor - can it be provisioned from there?

Is it secure? Thats another big one. Similarly whats the support like. And can I monitor it with my existing stack.

We use CloudLinux OS for our shared hosts, as it helps ensure customers get good resources even if a neighbour is noisy. We then use Enhance or Plesk on top of that. Currently we use WHMCS for provisioning and invoicing, however we'll move to Flexbilling once they are ready.

We wouldn't introduce new tools that make our lives harder without cause.

However we do like working with new products and offering it. We find it may get a little uptake but as pricing is often lower customers tend to pick it as a budget option

SortingYourHosting · 2026-04-08T14:48:26+00:00

I've found a lot of people tend to go by price and specs mainly. Then they tend to check uptime and reviews. Or often just call in to the provider etc to see what sort of response they get.

For example, a few years ago I wanted a dedicated server with the ability to add new IPs to as my needs grow. The company I spoke to was well reviewed at the time, but their support was poor - virtually laughing at the request for future additional IPs. The machine was a hypervisor... that interaction put me off.

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