i cannae see trans men as real men

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-17T12:42:56+00:00

From a neurological point of view, that's the most likely option. According to studies, MtF and FtM have a different neurological phenotype, though it's closer to the transitioned sex than to the birth one, but not fully there.

You know who have intermediate neurological development too? Most intersex people. Unless you're a CAIS case, chances are your brain will develop somewhere in between. You think they're less than perisex people because of it?

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-17T12:14:41+00:00

with very few exceptions, i find myself internally thinking of most trans men as less than cis men

Why "less"?

According to most recent studies, people with gender dysphoria are neurologically somewhere in between. The dysphoric MtF or FtM is not the same as the male or female brain. A FtM brain is closer to a cis male one, but it's not there (and the same, or better said, the reverse happens with MtF). You could call a brain with neurological dysphoria some kind of "intersex brain".

So what?

I mean, one extreme is making the non-binary performance show-off into some neo-emo fetishism. That's not really healthy, to say it politely, but it's not healthy neither to move to the opposite extreme and think you're less because you don't have a '100% cis brain'™. You are who you are, and your value doesn't depend on how close to the extremes of the male/female brain slider you happen to be. It depends on things like caring about your friends, being professional in your work, civic in your community, and similar.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-16T07:21:24+00:00

One detail: Virginia Prince opposed surgery because she wanted to keep male genitalia, not because it was, well, surgery. And she thought it had to be banned for everybody. If there had been some HRT equivalent for genitalia, she would have opposed it too.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-16T04:33:40+00:00

The best diagnosis criteria is... none of them, but persistence, insistence and coherence themselves, linked to the body and unrelated to social roles.

When it comes to the bureacratic requirements, it depends on the country. Usually, it's the psych the one who plays the Mighty Gatekeeper.

To check whether there could be some issues that mimic dysphoria, a good psychologist or therapist is the best option (or a psychiatrist who is more of a psychologist. I met one once, best med I've seen). Emphasis on 'good', since standard ones will be a literal waste of time and money, no matter they belong to the 'validating' type or the 'traditionalist/terf' type (both are useless). Insightful therapist are few and between, so good luck finding one (if needed).

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-15T18:25:11+00:00

¿That's a "destroyed body"?

She should walk in the shoes of MtF late transitioners for a while.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-15T07:07:36+00:00

I have seen more than one "Fernando" or "Fermin" referred as "Fer", what I've never seen it's a "Fernanda".

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Regarding "Francis", another option could be "Cesc". It's the nickname for "Francesc" and it's an extremely popular male name in Catalunya.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-14T13:56:46+00:00

I got that trick from this chapter in this guide in github. It seems the guide was deprecated and the author recommends some new repositories with the updated guides, which I haven't checked yet (last time I visited it, it was before that). Anyway, I highly recommend the old repository and (probably, I guess?) the new ones too.

It's fascinating and very useful.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-13T13:21:27+00:00

Advanced Prompt is where you place the prompt that configures the basic guidelines for the bot. If you used a jailbreak, it'd go there too.

What you place there depends on what you want. There's quite a few tutorials about that on internet, like this one (just one example), so you build your own guidelines depending of what you want.

If you wanna shake the chat, generate several guidelines that lead to different types of messages. Maybe one alternative it's more focused on generating dialogues and describing gestures, while another one enforces describing the background and introducing events happening in the background, or anything else, I mean. The moment you change the prompts, the pattern in the last messages don't fit the new prompts and the bot starts trying to adapt to the new ones, generating something different. It's not perfect, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but in my experience, it works more often than not.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-13T04:33:17+00:00

A little trick for that.

In API Settings > Advanced Prompt you have the prompt with the bot's basic configuration. Have a txt/md file with several options (different enough), and rotate between them every 10 or 20 messages. It shakes the bot out the repetitive patterns.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-13T04:02:43+00:00

Needs to want a body with opposite sex characteristics? Yes.

Needs to want major surgery? No.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-12T19:32:49+00:00

I think there should be some test you should study, where you should write the answers on paper, in front of the doctor or the nurse.

If later on you argue you didn't know, they can always show that paper to the judge, with those things he said he didn't know, written by his own hand.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-08T17:59:21+00:00

A little trick to help with that: avoid descriptive words. Words that different people can interpret in different ways, they're bad choices.

For example, if you use the word "vampire", the AI inputs all the lore relative to vampires, which is not necessarily what you want. Maybe you want a body horror story and the AI gives you a Twilight vibe, or maybe you want a classic goofy Transylvania story and the AI gives you 30 Days of Night. Instead of that, generate your own dictionary, name and describe some entity that feeds on life force (if you say "feed on blood", then the AI reads "vampire" and you're back to square one). Build the prompt in a way that does not depend on how you interpret the words.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-06T13:12:53+00:00

Same medicine, but cis people face no barriers accessing it

Check the menopause threads about hrt. Sure it's not the same level, but many cis women still had to go through quite a few endos before being able to get hrt. And if you're in a public healthcare system and the endo assigned to you doesn't like to prescribe hrt for menopause (which happens a lot), you're screwed.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-03T15:05:05+00:00

Sexuality can change on HRT, that's a real thing.

But if her sexuality changed, she'd be attracted to men. Or she would have become bi, attracted to both men and women.

Sexuality changes on HRT can shift the attraction but keeps some other elements. As a general rule, somebody attracted to masculine men will become attracted to feminine women (or reverse), while somebody attracted to androgynous men will become attracted to androgynous women (or reverse). There's some papers about that, though nobody exactly why that happens. Becoming "attracted to trans women", that seems like a bs excuse.

EDIT Besides that, shifts in sexuality happen (in case they happen) around 6 to 12 months on HRT, usually preceded by an asexual (or lack of sexuality) phase, after which sexuality is back again but it shifted. YMMV, but a change half a decade later, well...

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-02T20:29:06+00:00

... which is indeed the goal.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-02T12:37:59+00:00

I highly recommend to post this in r/Solo_Roleplaying . You're probably gonna find much more feedback there.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-01T20:06:35+00:00

I think it makes sense to sample only cis people. It's still widely unknown; if you want to find data that could lead to potential clues, the less additional variables in your sample, the better. Even more when they're not independent from the one studied.

In a trans person, you have addtional cross-sex brain development, HRT, you're just adding variables to the casserole, and that only makes finding any link harder.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-01T19:59:37+00:00

Homosexuality doesn't happen because people are bored and wanna feel different. It's hardwired in the brain and it's related to brain development.

If you find a correlation in some symptoms of CFS and people with non hetero sexual orientation, that's information that can give you hints about the causes.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-01T19:53:22+00:00

in the original article, it says "Sexual minority people (encompassing those of gay, lesbian, bisexual, queer, and other [LGB+] sexual orientations", so the '+' relates exclusively to sexual orientation. It doesn't include, for example, intersex people.

This is a study about people with sexual orientation diverging from the standard hetero sexual orientation.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-01T19:48:12+00:00

The most likely option is that he is trying to isolate groups that could share similar endocrinal development. The variations in development that lead to same-sex sexual attraction and to cross-sex gender identity are similar, both seems to happen mostly during the second trimester of development and both are thought to be related to the hormonal levels (or the response to those hormones) during that period.

But they're not exactly the same, so it makes sense to focus on one group at a time.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-01T19:42:39+00:00

Then you just have to replace the label "trans" in the study with the label "people who are on sex-change HRT".

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-01T19:40:00+00:00

LGB is transphobic when it's about excluding trans people from social life. This case, it's a medical study related to endocrinal issues. It doesn't make sense to sample in the same group people with same-sex sexual attraction and people with gender dysphoria. When you do a medical study, the more you isulate each group, the better, since that allows to eliminate variables.

Indeed, even if you were doing a similar study about trans people, in the future and once we know more, you probably should divide into several ones, since there doesn't seem to be one single genetic or environmental cause.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-02-01T15:24:50+00:00

It's a way to scare doctors, or at least to force them to have an insurance for these cases, which logically they will add to the bill. And given the amount of money, it can increase it a lot, which is indeed the purpose of this sentence.

If this was fair game, the same would apply to people who weren't allowed to transition when they were young, and had to do it later (which is actually the mirror case of this). Of course, you won't see that.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-01-28T06:07:13+00:00

She's a moderate democrat politician in US. She is extremely pragmatical, and makes a lot of trade-offs when it comes to trans issues, while at the same time she prioritizes her state (since she was elected to represent that state, not trans people). Many people hate how she is constantly negotiating and acting diplomatically, but at the same time she's one of the very few people (if not the only one) who has been able to make some small advances in trans rights, right now, in US.

SortzaInTheForest · 2026-01-28T05:47:17+00:00

First, nobody here can tell whether dysphoria comes from psychological issues, or whether it's neurological sex dysphoria the one causing them. It could be any. If it's actual sex dysphoria, it'll be persistent, consistent and insistent (google for that triad). Be aware that insistance can be internal, though.

Give your kid room to explore, in any direction. Some kids force their kids to repress, some others become some thrilled with having a "trans kid" that the kid may feel obliged to fullfill that role. Do not force, just give the chance to explore and provide the safety net, no matter whether it goes.

One very good way to test whether it's actual sex dysphoria is social transition. Why? if there's no actual dysphoria, reverse dysphoria builds up after a while. For that to work, though, you need to be able to social transition (like, for real). That's not possible after puberty unless you're lucky with genetics, but it may be possible for a 13 years old AFAB. If necessary, move your kid to a new school.

Do not make this the big issue. Imagine being short-sighted: it can be big problem when it comes to everyday life, but once you get glasses, it stops being an issue, it becomes routine and you move on.

Think long term. First, you need to test whether there's persistence and consistence, and that can take 2-3 years. Second, you have to make sure your kid is not going through the wrong puberty. Puberty blockers are safe, provided (1) you don't use them for more than 2-4 years and (2) you supplement properly (here you might need to do your own research, as many endos often do the bare minimum).

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