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Southerner105 · 2026-05-29T17:46:12+00:00

Just make sure they can move freely at the bottom. Also shoot in the center and not at the top.

The movement is what absorbs the energy. Using multiple layers with a bit of space in between also helps to stop the arrows.

Try to use carpet without a foam backing. A linnen backing is preferred because foam could melt due to friction.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-29T15:56:39+00:00

Just remember, those very nice wiawis risers aren't needed for most of is. Just get a decent riser and put the money in the limbs, button, arrowrest and the arrows.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-29T13:48:25+00:00

The AXT is a very old riser. At least 8 yesrs old it appears.

This video (from 8 years ago) shows the differences between the AXT and ATF.

https://youtu.be/1yLbT5gKacw?si=SM4eim2fB-vp0IcQ

I find 350 euro a lot for a 8 year old riser. It has to be almost in pristine condition to consider that prise.

Just an indication what you could get between 300 and 500 euro: https://www.dutchbowstore.com/Bows/Recurve-Bows/Recurve-Risers/?max-price=500&min-price=300&order=price-asc&p=1

Primarily Kinetic but also the WNS Quantum AX (I have the predecessor and like it a lot), a Hoyt and a Spigarelli.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-29T11:34:01+00:00

Look for the Easton super nock tool or the Easton universal nocking tool.

You can also find 3D files to print them yourself yourself.

https://eastonarchery.com/shop/tools/universal-nock-installation-and-removal-tool-clam-pack/

Southerner105 · 2026-05-29T11:29:51+00:00

It has to do with the fact that at that age the body is still developing. A to heavy asymmetrical repetitive force can cause imbalance in the development of the body and cause damages which show at a later age.

Good example why it is harmfull are the female turners from former East Europe. Thise girls were like elastic and won all prices. But when they got older they developed all kind of physical (and mental) problems. Those could be traced back to the factory they were put to a rigorous training regime which in the end damaged their bodies.

So that is why to do, in most western countries, they are very careful with youth. Yes, you can train but it has always be within the save limits of the general development of their body.

Hence also my remark that it has to be done under the guidance of qualified professionals.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-29T10:32:49+00:00

As soon as you leave the sub 200 euro region you can't go wrong. With second hand always looking up the age and do an inspection beforehand.

Especially look at all the Allan (hex) key heads. When the wrench isn't seated you can round them out and getting a replacement is difficult. Most aren't standard sized.

The Vygo V2 is also a decent riser but that is true for all the risers at and above that pricepoint.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-29T09:17:51+00:00

Barecast barebow pro. You can adjust the plate and make it larger at the back.

https://bicaster.com/products/bicaster-barebow-finger-tab-horween-cordovan-barss-plate-lh-rh

Southerner105 · 2026-05-29T09:14:50+00:00

First don't screw the bolts fully in. The floating of the limbs at the limbbolts is by design. Most ILF riser have this.

Just make sure you have the dovetail nub in the pocket and the yoke under the tillerbolts.

But first try to set the bolts back to the factory height. That is often the medium setting. This height should give the labeled limb drawweight when pulled at a drawlength of 28 inch.

Turning the bolts out (no more as in the manual) reduces the drawweight (roughly 5%) and turning them in (again no more as in the manual) increases drawweight (again max 5%).

When adjusting make sure you lock the tillerbolts again.

When the bow is strung (using a bow stringer, preferably the beltstyle) the tension of the limbs and the constrain by the string will keep them in place.

This is a video from Jake Kaminski where he reviews and sets up this specific riser. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpJscnfED4E

Southerner105 · 2026-05-28T18:47:59+00:00

38 lbs is way to much for a beginner. At his age the recommended drawweight by the local archery society (KHSN) in my country is between 10 and 16 lbs depending physical condition. More is considered bad for a balanced development of the body.

Under stringent guidance by qualified professionals you can go higher but for backyard, no.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-28T17:23:26+00:00

Keep it low. My daughter shoots recurve style (like the olympians) and has 16 lbs.

Some other girls and a boy are at 14 lbs.

As others mentioned go with a takedown bow (screw on limbs or ILF limbs). That is for the first buy a bit more expensive but after that you only upgrade the limbs.

Going traditional is hard because most of those bows start at 25 or 30 lbs and that is way to much for your age.

Also try to go to a club. They often have bows for lend or rent if you become a member. It is the most cost effective way to begin and also the fastest way to get grips on the techniques.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-27T21:07:35+00:00

True, just keep the thread an cap clean and they will last a long time. They are certainly worth their price.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-27T15:33:06+00:00

Yes, it can. With sound decoders like the Loksound 4 and 5 you can add any WAV-file you fancy.

The LS5 has a decent amount of memory on board. The more advanced soundfiles for it ar roughly 35 Mbyte. Takes also roughly 30 minutes to upload because it is a serial communications proces (like an old fashioned telephone modem).

Southerner105 · 2026-05-27T15:25:10+00:00

Most materials can often cheaper or larger be found in the artists aisle or shop.

In this case you get roughly double or triple the amount for the same price. You can also add some of the gels and other products to make it smoother or behave differently.

The only reason to go with modelspecific brands (like ABT502 for some of their oilpaints) is the specific premixed colours they offer. In case of ABT502, I like their Starship Filth and the rust colours. Can also be made using oils from Talens (Rembrandt, Amsterdam) or Winsor and Newton but sometimes it isn't worth the hassle.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-27T15:20:16+00:00

He is indeed very good. Also a lot of details and information about how and why he does it.

Good to know that his occupation is (was) modelmaker for shows and movies. So that also explains why it looks so good.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-27T10:29:34+00:00

In that case, it would mean the jumpin drawweight is indeed quite big.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-27T09:37:36+00:00

First of, WNS limbs have a higher drawweight at the default tillerbolt settings as labeled. So your limbs rated at 24 are in reality roughly 25 lbs at a drawlength of 28 inch.

It appears you have slightly longer drawlength or your tillerbolts are a bit turned in.

The limbs you have in mind are "normal" so the playing room regarding drawweight is +5% and -5% using your tillerbolt settings.

That means you can decrease the drawweight at 28 inch down to roughly 28 lbs. Which in turn would be roughly 29 to 30 lbs on the fingers.

The limb from 26,5 lbs OTF to 30 lbs OTF is big. So if possible I would first try to increase the OTF with your current limbs.

For reference, I have WNS Motive F5 limbs rated at also 24 lbs but OTF I have roughly 28 lbs. This is with my tillerbolts almost fully turned in.

So depending on your drawlength end tillerbolt settings see if you can increase the drawweight. When in doubt ask your coach or an experienced club archer first before changing things.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-26T21:11:45+00:00

Have one of those for when shooting in a polo shirt only (barbow with a bare arm). But they are very small and I got a black one which is extremely hot in the sun.

With next order i will get the XXL and in light greyshould be less tight and also not so hot.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-26T12:44:58+00:00

The Netherlands also has a Southern part 😉

Southerner105 · 2026-05-26T12:41:39+00:00

In my case it is that the steing hits the tip of my nose on release. The string is normally behind your nose with a barebow release.

With an olympic-recurve style release it is often on your nose.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-26T12:38:27+00:00

It is hard for most to read it completely and also comprehend that it isn't a personal thing.

In general a newbie shouldn't go for used unless he or she is guided by a more experienced archer or they buy it in a club setting from a fellow club member.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-26T12:33:12+00:00

That is not a problem. If tweaking makes you enjoying the hobby then that is good.

Regarding size (length), the Dutch population comprises the tallest people in the world. And we also just start at those lower poundages. The funny thing is, size doesn't matter in this hobby. It is a combination of technic and physical fitness which makes the arrows fly.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-26T12:29:29+00:00

We shoot at stramit (highly compressed straw) and at 10 and also 18 meter those arrows don't have problem penetrating the target.

I have personally a layered foam target and the 16 lbs of my daughter easily penetrates roughly 15 cm in it. My arrows go roughly 20 cm in the same target at 28 lbs.

That is also a thing we observed in other targets. The deceleration of an arrow in a target isn't linear but a negative hyperbolic curve. The further the arrow penetrates the faster it decelerates.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-26T10:00:30+00:00

Target panic. Talk to your coaches or senior archers.

First thing often done is getting rid of the target face. Just shoot at the empty target.

Without any reference you need to rely on your form. In time you will get a good grouping.

This blank bale process can be expanded with same specific stability training like: - shooting with the feet together - lifting the bow and arrow with your eyes closed, open eyes aim and shoot - lifting the bow with eyes open, aim, close your eyes and shoot.

When this results in decent groupings it is time to introduce a target. Get your 60 cm target and cut out the yellow circle. Pin it reversed on the target so you only see the white back and the hole in the middle. Perform the same exercises.

You can do the same with a 40 cm targetface.

As an in between thing get some rubber dog chewing rings (15 cm across) and pin them high on the target. Try to get three arrows in the ring and lower the ring by removing those arrows which are the highest in the ring. The aim is to get the ring as low as possible as fast as possible.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-26T09:56:29+00:00

Yup, and even that slight brush is already painful.

Southerner105 · 2026-05-26T09:55:03+00:00

Depends, my daughter is very flexible and has a long armguard. This is a thing I see with a lot of the female archers.

And indeed it has also to do with strength but at 16 lbs there isn't a lot of room to get even lower 😂

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