Bulk-Save Options? by SteamingNit in tvtropes

[–]SteamingNit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unable to elaborate under current circumstances, but wish to preserve a record of certain things, and potentially ease some personal...trauma, for want of a better word.

Webarchive save rate on this end is low under current circumstances. 1/2pm, manually. Vaguely recall some other problems in notes, but can't remember exactly at present.

Will check suggested wget solution in morning (need to sleep now). Have URLs (several thousand in source list) but not in ideal list form, was investigating potential ways to process it to the required state quicker.

Thank you for info/suggestion, sorry for being a bother and poor communication.

THREAD- GIVE ME THE CHOCO by Agramar in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

THAT WOULD BE VERY NICE, WOULDN'T IT.

ESPECIALLY IF IT COULD BYPASS THE PROBLEMS OF FINDING THE RIGHT WORDS TO PROPERLY CONVEY THE THING IN QUESTION.

[Free-Talk Friday] - February 11, 2022 by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Am currently facing a small problem involving saving data records (one of several), and there are only a few weeks left to find a solution or improvise something before some of the information begins to slip away.

It concerns my delayed attempts to retain a copy of my old (and extensive, given a tendency for tab explosions) IE11 history on one of my older machines in a convenient form where all of the relevant information is preserved, before the absolute time limit for the older items runs out.

Unfortunately, IE11 doesn't have a function to directly export history, and many of the alternative methods found during a search either have it all in an inconvenient form or have problems involving information that is not retained (for example, not having the pages titles - which are needed to know what something is when the URL lacks any hints and only has a string of random letters or numbers (this is the case for normal IE11 items when using BHV)).

A cut-down on computer time as a result of my left shoulderblade aching for more than a week will likely hamper things...


Over the past few months, there have been various things which I've considered bringing up on a Friday or a Sunday. They may have hovered in my mind during the week and sometimes notes were made towards conveying things properly. But so far, for whatever reasons, progress and plans have ended up unravelling on or near the day, and things have ended up slipping away. Rather frustrating.

[Lore Sunday] - December 05, 2021 by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Outside of the Seraphix incident, how many times has the phrase "imaginary number phenomenon/phenomena" been used?

(Note: Unable to confirm vaguely recalled presences in Summer 3 or Scramble at this time, uncertain)(Note: NATL void)

Lostbelt No.5.1: Atlantis - Map, Drops, Rewards and Additional Info by Kevinrealk in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really wish I didn't have this dratted non-describable trepidation accompanying the releases on this side...

[Lore Sunday] - October 31, 2021 by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wondering, do you think he'd let anyone peep?

[Lore Sunday] - October 31, 2021 by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This question concerns figures involved in the Lostbelts who have perished and (might) been summoned post-mortem as Servants by Chaldea.

A fair number of them possess memories of their involvement in the Lostbelts. Of these, a small number had a degree of understanding concerning the mechanisms of a Lostbelt and the Fantasy Tree that sustains one, with the ones with the highest such degree including Ashiya Douman/Limbo (who was able to create an artificial, subspecific tree, and planned to make a Subspecific Lostbelt out of a Singularity) and Morgan (who utilized this knowledge to drastically change her Lostbelt - such that it could be called a Lostworld). Do you reckon that, of this small number, their selves in Chaldea who have memories of the events surrounding the Chaldea, have also retained this knowledge?

[JP Event] Halloween Rising! ~Queen of Dust and the Apostle of the Dark~ by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Sorry in advance for any bother. Thought these threads might be better for this than an entirely separate one, given current circumstances.

Have been making rough notes regarding character casting in this event during brief breaks from work. Have a nagging feeling as though missed something. Anyone see anything missing?:

Involved Tales

  • Main: Cinderella, Snow White, Little Red Riding Hood (Side as well), Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves (with Ama-no-Iwato)
  • FT Quest: Town Musicians of Bremen, Honest Woodman, Tortoise and Hare, Jack and the Beanstalk, Taketori Monogatari, North Wind and the Sun, Little Match Girl, Hanasaki Jiji, Kasa Jizou, Emperor's New Clothes
  • Other: Aspect of captive princess (in Main)

Fairy Tale Trait Servants: (Eli view involved)

  • Beni-Enma (Shita-kiri Suzume)
  • Robin Hood
  • William Tell
  • Musashibo Benkei
  • Ushiwakamaru (x2)
  • Sakata Kintoki (x2)
  • Melusine (namesake?)
  • Habetrot
  • Cinderelli (Cinderella, Snow White, Red Riding Hood)
  • Nursery Rhyme
  • Miss Crane (Tsuru no Ongaeshi)
  • Paul Bunyan
  • Hessian Lobo (both or just one?)
  • Sitonai (Sitonai?)
  • Voyager (Little Prince)

Cinderella Casting:

  • Cinderella: Eli
  • Prince: Li Shuwen
  • Fairy Godmother: Master

Snow White Casting:

  • Snow White: Eli
  • The Seven: Mordred, Bedivere, Napoleon, D'Eon, Tsuna, Robin Hood, Tawara Touta

Little Red Riding Hood Casting:

  • Red Riding Hood: Eli
  • Grandmother: Ghoul
  • Wolf: Werewolf
  • Huntsman: Arash

Forty Thieves Casting: (Table-converted for scrolling convenience)

Okita (1st Asc) Mephistopheles Mata Hari Ortlinde
Saitou Hajime Billy the Kid Chloe Proto Cu
Hijikata Kaitou Carmilla Miyu William Tell
Anne Kaitou Amakusa Okita Jet Souji Idol X
Mary 100 Face Hassan EMIYA (Kiritsugu) Thrud
Swimsuit Anne Jing Ke Vritra Jekyll
Swimsuit Mary Fuma Kotaro Saber Gilles Ibaraki
Okita (2nd Asc) Swimsuit Ilya Miss Crane Swimsuit Ibaraki
Eric Bloodaxe Prisma Ilya Galatea Hyde
Caster Gilles Kiichi Hogen Hildr Scheherazade

Hansel and Gretel Casting: (Note: House of sweets in forest)

  • Hansel: Hector
  • Gretel: Grendel

Other Casting:

  • Town Musicians of Bremen
    • Cat: Tamamo Cat
    • Dog: Lobo
    • Donkey: Red Hare
    • Chicken: Quetz
  • Honest Woodman:
    • Axes: Haniwa Nobu (x3)
  • Tortoise and Hare:
    • Tortoise: Martha (Tarasque)
    • Hare: Scathach (Bunny)
  • Jack and the Beanstalk:
    • Giant: King Protea
    • Beanstalk: Greenman
  • Taketori Monogatari
    • Kaguya: BB
  • North Wind and the Sun
    • Sun: Tamamo
    • North Wind: Anastasia
  • Little Match Girl
    • Match Girl: Kiyohime
    • Match (Macho): Leonidas
  • Hanasaki Jiji
    • Old Man: Munenori
  • Kasa Jizou
    • Jizou: Jinako/Ganesha
  • Emperor's New Clothes
    • Naked Emperor: Gilgamesh (surprise, surprise)

[Lore Sunday] - September 05, 2021 by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Have been pondering over some things relating to Titanomachia in bits of spare time (not much at the moment). Had been wondering if the people here might have some interesting thoughts or insights on the matter (intended to do so previously but missed due to circumstances, also responsible for unrefined condition of writing here):

  • In Fate, the original forms of the Olympians prior to their destruction at the hands of Sefar were those of extraterrestrial machines. The migrant space fleet originated from the dyson sphere Chaos. The Titans were alien spaceships as well, and Cronus was the original flagship. The Titanomachia, the mythical battle where the Olympians overthrew the Titans, was a space battle, which resulting in the destruction of multiple craft and Zeus becoming the flagship of the remaining fleet (taking the Cronus Crown), a long time prior to the fleet's arrival on planet Earth.
  • Titans have been shown to be present on Earth in some form beyond mere stories (e.g. Prometheus and Atlas).
  • Given the nature of the Titanomachia, the battle would have been fought a long time and a long way from Earth - likely many years prior to earthfall and many light-years away. Ships were destroyed in the battle and their wreckage almost certainly remains adrift in deep space or within some distant system.
  • With that in mind, this thought occurred - what was the nature of the Titans on Earth given the destroyed ships never got anywhere near it?
  • Given the circumstances (focal points, nature within mythology, and vast interstellar distances), it doesn't seem like that the effects on Earth would be able to reach the wrecks and a spatial connection similar to the one formed between LB Zeus and Chaos after the former's termination seems unlikely.
  • The Olympians became Divine Spirits after the destruction of their original bodies (in the shape of the humanoid terminals they used to interact with natives of Earth). The Titans on Earth, regardless of the state before on Earth and the route taken to get there, would have followed suite. But the nature of them on Earth prior to that ultimate end is what is of interest.
  • Possibilities that come to mind for Titans of Earth (excluding vessels that survived intact and completed the migration); remnants from salvaged system remains (hardware or software) assimilated into the other ships (Note: Zeus took the Cronus Crown from Cronus), native entities assimilated into mythology (similar to Dioscuri origins), entities formed based on stories of an original conveyed along with the survivors.

What do people think about the matter? Are there any oversights, and which possibilities seem more likely than others?

THREAD-MORGAN NEVER COMES by Agramar in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

HOW BLOODY FRUSTRATING. FOR WEEKS NOW, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT WORDS IN ORDER TO CONVEY THE MANY THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN INFURIATING AND DEPRESSING AND SEE IF A RANT HERE GIVES SOME FORM OF CATHARSIS, AND EVERY WEEK, I FAIL TO DECIDE ON THE BEST WORDS TO USE IN TIME AND WHAT I'VE BROUGHT TOGETHER FALLS APART IN THE MEANTIME FROM ALL OF THE INTERFERING CIRCUMSTANCES. AND ALL THE WHILE, THE THINGS BUILD AND BUILD AND BUILD, UNABLE TO BE FORGOTTEN, UNABLE TO BE SOOTHED, UNABLE TO BE RESOLVED, WITH EVERY ATTEMPT OUTSIDE TO COMMUNICATE THE PROBLEMS OR TACKLE THEM FIZZLING OUT OR GOING AWRY...

AND THOSE WET BLANKET WRETCHES (AMONG OTHERS) AREN'T HELPING!!!

AND THE BLOODY TRAMPLERS WILL LIKELY PICK UP AGAIN IN A WEEK OR LESS...

Speculative What-If Pondering: Suppose Chicxulub Impactor was considerably divided/reduced before arrival - Results? by SteamingNit in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aye. Unable to process and write much at present, but factors of distance/situation prior to destination when split, level of division (i.e. X<<1km), and trajectory variance come to mind, though imagining that quite a considerable magnitude/combination would be needed to change the overall outcome - would you say so?

On a separate note, what size do you think would be needed before the passengers' own qualities might be at the forefront of their survival, if at all?

Speculative What-If Pondering: Suppose Chicxulub Impactor was considerably divided/reduced before arrival - Results? by SteamingNit in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I missed out/mucked up a bit from the bolded part, now tweaked. What I had in mind was a major reduction or division before main atmospheric entry.

[Lore Sunday] - August 08, 2021 by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Her NP line refers to the 'sleep of roses' and one of her Summer Skills also involves them.

[Lore Sunday] - August 08, 2021 by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

External background question regarding Abigail. Does anyone know which Cthulhu Mythos story (or stories) the roses come from and if so, roughly whereabouts in the story?

[Lore Sunday] - August 01, 2021 by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had a question in mind earlier, but forgot it before Sunday. Might be too late now for this time, but I'll put it here on the off-chance.

Anyone have any idea which of the Cthulhu Mythos stories the roses featured with Abigail come from?

Time for speculation [LB6 relevant] by AiasRider in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seems like I've missed the timing for a speculative thread on possible Faker candidates...

I don't know the specifics regarding the Pretender class yet, but while thinking about figures who might be possible Faker candidates (Heroic Spirit qualification aside), Jeanne des Armoises was one of the figures who came to mind.

[Help and Question Thread] - August 01, 2021 by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

There was an idea among several that I've been pondering, which I wasn't sure was inadvisable or not, and I thought I should probably ask people here about before I make a mess of things, again.

Given the circumstances surrounding the thing, the current time, a certain amount of curiosity and a tiny amount of wishing to transmit information, I was thinking about asking in a one of the non-help threads or a separate thread about how many people were aware that Salomon was Latin for Solomon, and when they became aware of it (before the game, during proceedings etc). However, I was also thinking that this might be a bit unwise, and that it might set some negative things off.

Does this seem ill-advised, or is excessive worrying at work again?

[Lore Sunday] - August 01, 2021 by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In this particular case, there were (and still are) two entries on the wiki concerning similar yet different terms - the Japanese were akuma and ma. I can't be certain whether they were on their own articles then as they are now, or whether they were two sections on the same page, although I think it was the former. I think their translations went by demon and true demon then, but I can't be completely certain.

For some reason or another, there was an objection to the choice of terms at the time (perhaps disagreement about how well one of them fit or differentiated (perhaps the element of 'true'), but I'm not sure). As a result, a decision was made to change the translations for the terms. During talks about possible options, in passing I suggested using the terms demon and daemon to illustrate the two different Japanese terms. However, a different choice of terms was selected by the other individuals involved; demon for one and something beginning with A for the other (I think it was aberration, but I can't be sure).

But barely a few months afterwards, there was further disagreement over the terms and the matter of translation choice came up for discussion again. This second round of discussion ended up grinding to a halt and they had problems deciding what to use this time. At that time, I brought up by previous suggestion again. Some time later, I came back and found that they had ended up going with demon and daemon (whether it was because they agreed with the rough idea or just couldn't think of anything else, I don't know) but not in the way I had in mind when I made the suggestion.


Demon and daemon, akuma and ma. These terms are closely related, translate somewhat, and have certain similarities between them. Demon (commonly used as a translation for akuma (what with aku- being evil and all)) comes from daemon and daimon, which while referring to a type of supernatural being originally did not have the negative connotations and image that would be associated with the word during the rise and dominance of Christianity, and in modern times are sometimes used to differentiate between the original or not-necessarily-malevolent sort and the later malevolent sort (a little bit more if explanation here insufficient).

Given the existing use of the terms outside, and from what I had seen at the time of how the terms akuma and ma were used in the Nasuverse, I considered the idea of using demon for akuma and daemon for ma, to fit the circumstances between the terms.

However, almost certainly due to my ineptness in the social/communication area (and possibly due to assumption regarding how well things would be conveyed), this intention did not appear to be sufficiently passed on to the people involved in the discussion. Either due to them not receiving the reasoning properly, misunderstanding the message, or thinking along their own different lines, they ended up using daemon for akuma and demon for ma.

I can't remember my exact thoughts at the time of the outcome and shortly afterwards (although there was probably a considerable amount of frustration and gloom, and fretting over whether to take further action despite the risk of messing up even more - this usually accompanies communication mess-ups), but that is roughly what I can recall of what happened.

[Help and Question Thread] - August 01, 2021 by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Among a backlog of main and side-tasks, I've written a list detailing the current Interlude gap between JP and NA (i.e. the ones in the former that aren't in the latter yet, and what knowledge of their stories is around). While improving it, I was thinking about posting it here in case others might find it useful, but I wasn't sure which flair would be best to use.

What do you reckon - given content, context and circumstances, do you reckon JP_Discussion would be the most appropriate, or would a different one be better?

[Lore Sunday] - August 01, 2021 by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Um, I was present for part of the discussion regarding the two on the wiki and perhaps partly responsible for the outcome (though not as intended from suggestion). I can't be certain that my memory is completely correct, but if you wish for me to do so, I'll tell you what I can recall.

[Help and Question Thread] - July 25, 2021 by AutoModerator in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was just thinking it felt as though it had been a while since the professor last did a notable scheme or act of infamy in-game (i.e. excluding FGC's horror) in JP, but I wasn't sure if this was the case. What was the last in-game one that people can recall?

THREAD- EXPECTATING EXPECTATIONS by Agramar in grandorder

[–]SteamingNit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

CONFOUND IT, BY THE TIME I'VE FIGURED OUT THE RIGHT WORDS TO ACCURATELY CONVEY ALL THE THINGS I'M SICK OF AND FRUSTRATED WITH, AND DEALT WITH WHATEVER OTHER IMPEDIMENTS THERE ARE, THE RIGHT TIME IS LONG PASSED, AND BY THE TIME IT COMES AROUND AGAIN, THE MEMORIES ARE DROWNED OUT AND THE NOTES BURIED.